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Yosemite breaks versions of rEFInd 0.8.3 and older. rEFIt is even older than rEFInd, so I wouldn't be surprised if that didn't work either.
I don't see why rEFIt/rEFInd wouldn't work with a 5770, unless you have an unflashed PC 5770 (no boot screens). But if that's the case, then rEFIt is probably working... you just can't see it.
Do you have boot screens (i.e. grey screen...Apple logo)? I wonder if that's what you mean when you say you now have really long boot time.
No boot screens would explain both of the problems you describe (no rEFIt and long boot time).
but i do get a black screen at first, then the apple logo and grey screen. so if it is staying grey to long then that would explain things.
A real Mac Edition ATI 5770 will support boot manager function with a cMP 1,1 running Yosemite . These flashed PC cards are not perfect .
He has a flashed card . An Apple logo at Start Up is a visual indication that EFI is present on the graphics card .
im guessing that the black screen is when the efi is loaded and seeing as i cant see it. then it boots with the apple logo in the last HD i was on.
If you have boot screens, then the problem is likely that Yosemite broke rEFIt. rEFIt is really old and hasn't been updated in years. Try rEFInd. rEFInd 0.8.4 and later work with Yosemite.
i think the problem is that the screen is staying black to long before the apple grey screen comes up. so im not seeing the refit screen and its automatically booting into the last HD i was on.
Where's your boot drive physically installed ? Boot times are quickest in the cMPs when the OS drive is installed in HDD Bay 1 .
the drive i use the most is in in bay 3. so your saying that if i install it in bay 1 it will boot faster.
If the drive in Bay 3 is your boot drive, then transfer it to Bay 1 . Then PRAM your Mac .
its the flashed video card. even though i get the apple boot screen i still get a black screen for the first 30+ seconds.
ouch . That . Is . Just . Too . Long .
Please get a decent graphics card .
A Mac Pro 1,1 > 2,1 Eight Core running Yosemite with a decent SSD and a real 5770 cold boots in around 25 seconds to a working desktop . These are powerful machines despite being 10 years old . You must be in misery
hay just want to ask something that might be silly do you have the 6 pin power cable plugged in correctly, might be worth unplugging the 6 pin power cable on both sides and re plunging it in. (you do have the required power cable plugged in?)
might also be worth un plunging the GPU and checking there's no dust in the pci slot bit over the contacts (had that problem with ram once, got the dust out of the ram slot and it worked fine)
might be worth putting the card in the second slot from the bottom instead of the bottom slot as it's cooler there (cards can over heat in the bottom slot according to some posts.
have you used the PCI card utility to check you have the PCI lanes set up correctly ?
have you tried putting in one of your old cards to see if you still have the problem with the old card?
one thing worth mention is that if your only having the problem on one drive (is it a HD or SSD) the drive might have bad sectors or become curopted in some way
also in system preferences set the disc you want to boot from instead of doing it from holding alt/option but if it is just the one HD thats slow it might be a bad drive.
+ do a pram reset is a good idea
iv messed up a boot drive by accident once i think by doing to many partitions and installs then re-sizing partitions on the same drive which i fixed by installing a new drive and migrating my account from the drive that had problems.
might also be worth un plunging the GPU and checking there's no dust in the pci slot bit over the contacts (had that problem with ram once, got the dust out of the ram slot and it worked fine)
might be worth putting the card in the second slot from the bottom instead of the bottom slot as it's cooler there (cards can over heat in the bottom slot according to some posts.
have you used the PCI card utility to check you have the PCI lanes set up correctly ?
have you tried putting in one of your old cards to see if you still have the problem with the old card?
one thing worth mention is that if your only having the problem on one drive (is it a HD or SSD) the drive might have bad sectors or become curopted in some way
also in system preferences set the disc you want to boot from instead of doing it from holding alt/option but if it is just the one HD thats slow it might be a bad drive.
+ do a pram reset is a good idea
iv messed up a boot drive by accident once i think by doing to many partitions and installs then re-sizing partitions on the same drive which i fixed by installing a new drive and migrating my account from the drive that had problems.
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Graphics ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024 MB. all the drives start slow. where do i find PCI card utility.
[doublepost=1458476882][/doublepost]i had no idea that a flashed card would give ma any problems. i liked that fact that this one has a HDMI output. and the seller has sold quite a few of them and the buyers are happy. oh well cant turn back the clock.
[doublepost=1458476882][/doublepost]i had no idea that a flashed card would give ma any problems. i liked that fact that this one has a HDMI output. and the seller has sold quite a few of them and the buyers are happy. oh well cant turn back the clock.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/141915030633?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
[doublepost=1458478778][/doublepost]60 day money back. thats what im doing. not worth messing with. the fact that the efi. boot screen is black for almost 30 seconds is terrible. thats why its taking so long to boot. why the boot manager screen is black i dont know, and right now dont care. for $40.00 or $50.00 more i can buy a original apple that should work the way its suppose.
[doublepost=1458478778][/doublepost]60 day money back. thats what im doing. not worth messing with. the fact that the efi. boot screen is black for almost 30 seconds is terrible. thats why its taking so long to boot. why the boot manager screen is black i dont know, and right now dont care. for $40.00 or $50.00 more i can buy a original apple that should work the way its suppose.
PCI card utility info (not shore if it's still relevant but if you have a 1.1/2.1 it's worth a look)
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT2838
also found this post where some one had a incorrect PCI speed setup which gave problems
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-utility-running-below-maximum-speed.1799082/
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just looked at the ebay link, id return it.
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT2838
also found this post where some one had a incorrect PCI speed setup which gave problems
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-utility-running-below-maximum-speed.1799082/
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just looked at the ebay link, id return it.
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So, flashed 5770 and 5870 cards only show boot screen in one place, on a DVI to VGA adapter. ONLY an analog boot screen. AMD EFI is like that.
[doublepost=1458479274][/doublepost]going to return it.
[doublepost=1458480629][/doublepost]guess i should of read the description better. its saying show boot screen in one place, on a DVI to VGA. seeing as my Apple Cinema Display is DVI only, well guess thats the problem for the black 30 second startup screen. oh well live and learn.
[doublepost=1458479274][/doublepost]going to return it.
[doublepost=1458480629][/doublepost]guess i should of read the description better. its saying show boot screen in one place, on a DVI to VGA. seeing as my Apple Cinema Display is DVI only, well guess thats the problem for the black 30 second startup screen. oh well live and learn.
what do you want from a GPU, if you had 4 GPU's installed before im gessing you need to run a lot of displays ?
if your not playing games or doing anything GPU dependent there's a bunch of low end nvidia cards which are fairly cheep if you just want to drive displays and run a newer version of osx via the EFI thing (which i gess you dont have installed yet)
if you dont need a fancy GPU something like a gt610 might work fine for you?
found this thread about ppl ruining mac pro's 1.1/2.1 with the EFI thing and newer GPU's
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-pro-1-1-10-9-2-tiamo-graphic-card-suggestions.1712192/
the GT 610 is mentioned in one of the first posts, i just checked & you can still buy them new (i like to have a warranty) for about £25 (im in the UK) for the price it seems fine and will drive a display even just as a stop gap.
also the nvidia sticky is always worth a look, wish there was one for AIT
if your not playing games or doing anything GPU dependent there's a bunch of low end nvidia cards which are fairly cheep if you just want to drive displays and run a newer version of osx via the EFI thing (which i gess you dont have installed yet)
if you dont need a fancy GPU something like a gt610 might work fine for you?
found this thread about ppl ruining mac pro's 1.1/2.1 with the EFI thing and newer GPU's
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-pro-1-1-10-9-2-tiamo-graphic-card-suggestions.1712192/
the GT 610 is mentioned in one of the first posts, i just checked & you can still buy them new (i like to have a warranty) for about £25 (im in the UK) for the price it seems fine and will drive a display even just as a stop gap.
also the nvidia sticky is always worth a look, wish there was one for AIT
its the fact that im connected to my apple monitor thought DVi. connecting to my samsung hdtv though the VGA it boots fast, real fast. why this card is setup to work properly only though VGA i dont know.
This sounds strange since when the ATI 5770 was first manufactured (circa 2010) , VGA was already rarely used as an display interface . For over ten years (2003-present) DVI has been the standard , overlapped by DisplayPort (2009- present) and Thunderbolt (2013 to present ) in the Mac Pro community , including older cMPs still in use with upgraded video cards .
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