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tyr2

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May 6, 2006
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Leeds, UK
I've been using Fusion since the first public beta and I've been impressed throughout, haven't had any serious problems, and some issues I had with the snapshotting seem to have been resolved.

Fusion has seemed much more stable than Parallels which caused all kinds of problems with my Mac Pro, though they're almost certainly resolved in the newer releases.

For me one of the big advantages of Fusion is that you can use any VMWare VM built across the different platforms including server, workstation etc.. which comes in handy at work.
 

Muzzway

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Jul 21, 2007
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it simply looks exactly like an apple cinema display on the vmware fusion page.
i don't think that apple's new iMac will look exactly like the ACD

Is it just me, or does the VMware one look white? :confused::eek:

prodshot_23_inch_3display.jpg


fusion_header.png
 

Arnaud

macrumors 6502
May 24, 2005
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The Moon
Is it just me, or does the VMware one look white? :confused::eek:

I think it's just you.
The side might be burned out by the lighting during the photo-shoot. It's a small picture. They're obviously more interested in a proper rendering of the screen content than in the screen itself, which would easily mean enhancing the content and lighting up the screen.

...Feels like some people want badly a new iMac :)
 

Stadsport

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Nov 9, 2006
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Parallels has some nasty bugs and performance issues. For example, if it locks up while running a bootcamp partition, it makes your Windows drive unbootable until you start it up and shut it back down properly in Parallels. It also used to do this thing where it takes a million years to initialize, but that seems better. Oh, and it sucks at handling full screen on a separate monitor.

That said, VMWare isn't perfect, but it feels more solid to me. Unity is also implemented better than Coherence, in my opinion, but I do like Parallels' start button integration into the dock icon (buggy as it may be).
 

3D-Troll

macrumors member
Feb 24, 2007
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Ann Arbor, MI
In my opinion Fusion is the much better choice. It has no problems with multiple boot camp partitions, can run 64-bit XP and can run on more than one core.

Does anybody know if Fusion is limited to 2 cores or to one processor (4 cores on a quad core Mac Pro). I only have dual core machines and there Fusion is able to give 2 cores to the virtual machine.

Steffen
 

TheChemist

macrumors regular
Sep 25, 2006
179
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Hardware Acceleration

I am using Parallels 3, and the hardware acceleration is so crap, that i have to disable it to get my appz to work in windows (slowed down).

Does VMWare suffer the same issues?

I use 3D modelization in Windows (if I had the OSX version, I'd be all over it), hardware acceleration is mucho important.


:)


p.s. for those interested the software i use is Gaussian03/View03.
 

dongmin

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Jan 3, 2002
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If anyone's using any CAD programs with either of these programs, let me know. I need to run AutoCAD and Rhino, for which I have a Dell box. It'd be nice to do everything on one machine. I know OpenGL is not fully supported with Fusion/Parallels, so I'm curious about the performance.
 

tyr2

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May 6, 2006
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Leeds, UK
Does anybody know if Fusion is limited to 2 cores or to one processor (4 cores on a quad core Mac Pro). I only have dual core machines and there Fusion is able to give 2 cores to the virtual machine.

It's 2 cores max in the virtual machine, even on a Mac Pro.
 

cjinnc

macrumors newbie
Aug 6, 2007
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Fusion

I have been using Fusion with no errors for a month. I am new to mac and put it on a macbook to replace my Dell work laptop. Works like a dream, dragging files from MS to MAC windows is flawless.
 

JohnQP

macrumors newbie
Aug 6, 2007
1
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Parallels works for me

I have used Parallels from the very beginning and have not had any serious problems with it on my MBP 2GHz 2GB, even though I have stayed at or near the bleeding edge of their development throughout.

I continue to use it every day, and have found no reason (thus far) to switch. Both products seem to have their passionate advocates, but I would not choose one or the other based on their passion. Both products offer an evaluation period, so you should determine for yourself which one best suits what you do and how you work, especially if you plan to use the product routinely.
 

r-sparks

macrumors 6502
Dec 1, 2006
255
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England
Great news, VMWare is the best known and most respected virtualization software in the Corporate world.

It's important to note that VMWare are pitching Fusion as a "desktop" product, and nothing more. You're deliberately limited in what you can do with it. For example, you can't run virtual machines headless, probably because VMWare want to build this into their OS X server product. (You can actually run it headless via a hack that's detailed on their forums.)

I ponied up the $40 for the pre-release, because it seemed like a bargain.

Having downloaded the 1.0 release of Fusion, I can confirm that the bugs with the "Unity" (Coherence in Parallels-speak) remain, and are irritating. A good example just now was that an Internet Explorer window locked in Unity mode - it was still running but I couldn't click on it. I had to switch back to Single Window Mode, which made it accessible, and then back to Unity mode.

I also still get the 10-20 second lockup whenever Fusion quits during which time new programs can't be launched, and currently running programs become largely unresponsive.

If you're thinking of buying, you should definitely check-out the demos of both Parallels and Fusion. Bear in mind that Parallels offers current users access to the beta for the next release. If you decide to buy Fusion, I'd wait a few weeks/months until the next point release.
 

EagerDragon

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Jun 27, 2006
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MA, USA
It's important to note that VMWare are pitching Fusion as a "desktop" product, and nothing more. You're deliberately limited in what you can do with it. For example, you can't run virtual machines headless, probably because VMWare want to build this into their OS X server product. (You can actually run it headless via a hack that's detailed on their forums.)

I ponied up the $40 for the pre-release, because it seemed like a bargain.

Having downloaded the 1.0 release of Fusion, I can confirm that the bugs with the "Unity" (Coherence in Parallels-speak) remain, and are irritating. A good example just now was that an Internet Explorer window locked in Unity mode - it was still running but I couldn't click on it. I had to switch back to Single Window Mode, which made it accessible, and then back to Unity mode.

I also still get the 10-20 second lockup whenever Fusion quits during which time new programs can't be launched, and currently running programs become largely unresponsive.

If you're thinking of buying, you should definitely check-out the demos of both Parallels and Fusion. Bear in mind that Parallels offers current users access to the beta for the next release. If you decide to buy Fusion, I'd wait a few weeks/months until the next point release.

Makes sense, VMWare sells a few server versions of their software for (PC servers). They may have a server version for Macs in the future, but hard to say.
 

AndyR

macrumors 6502a
Dec 9, 2005
907
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Auckland, New Zealand
Just wondering about VMWare upgrades? I pre-ordered the other day so will download the full release tonight, but does anyone know when 1.1 comes out if you'll be able to upgrade for free or if its a pay again jobby?
 

Wolfpup

macrumors 68030
Sep 7, 2006
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virtualbox is a good choice if you only have tu run windows apps once a week on your mac or if you do not have enough money to buy parallels or fusion.

I didn't realize there was a free program like this! What are the advantages of the commercial products versus Virtualbox? I mean I know you wouldn't have those "coherence" type features, but it sounds like those are buggy anyway, and for me not worth $60.

I'd like to be able to use the same Windows install within both Boot Camp and the virtual machine, but it sounds like that causes activation issues, so it's very practical.

Damn! I was going to buy it on the 50% off pre-order deal and didn't realize it was ending so fast. :mad:

I was actually planning on buying today. It looks like Amazon is a good second choice right now (and you don't have to give another random company your info). They've got it for $60ish ($63 maybe) for preorder.
 
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