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m477h3w, I don't know if you can make it any simpler than that.

If you have a router ( little linksys or netgear box that is between your computer and cable modem/internet connection ) log into it using your web browser and do several things:

1) get your external IP Address (the one the rest of the internet sees you as). This is the IP address you'll use for the connection over Edge.

2) set up port forwarding to send requests on Ports 5900 and 5100 to your PC or Mac (you can get it's IP address from the DHCP list, which will also be in your router).

Every router is different, you'll need to look at your user manuals or google for more details if this does not make sense to you.

Alternately, get a better router that supports VPN connections and define a VPN connection on your iPhone to connect to that VPN. Then you can just use your regular PC/Mac IP address with no port forwarding. I use a Linksys RV082, and the VPN allows me to connect to any computer in my house. Port Forwarding as described above will only let you connect to ONE computer in your house.

Thank you so much!!! I use an Apple Airport Express, and can see settings for Port Mapping in Airport Utility?
 
Port Forwarding as described above will only let you connect to ONE computer in your house.
you can connect to any computer within your network if you configure your router the right way.
lets say:
port 55001 (on external ip) forwared to port 5900 (on pc_no_1)
port 55002 (on external ip) forwared to port 5900 (on pc_no_2)
...

this way you can connect to any computer in your network using the external ports.

in my opinion it's not a god way to expose these remote port's to the internet because you can't never know what evil is out there.
but if you don't have a much higher priced router you don't have any better way than not using standard port(s) on the external side...

cheers
flow
 
I can't get this to connect to one of my Mac minis which has Screen Sharing enabled through my firewall... usually in Safari on my MacBook Air, I can type "vnc://www.myhomedomainname.com:customportnumber" and connect straight to the mini. Tried different combinations of port numbers and none of them will get me connected.
 
you can connect to any computer within your network if you configure your router the right way.
lets say:
port 55001 (on external ip) forwared to port 5900 (on pc_no_1)
port 55002 (on external ip) forwared to port 5900 (on pc_no_2)
...

this way you can connect to any computer in your network using the external ports.

in my opinion it's not a god way to expose these remote port's to the internet because you can't never know what evil is out there.
but if you don't have a much higher priced router you don't have any better way than not using standard port(s) on the external side...

cheers
flow
Agreed. I was trying to keep things simple for him. I used to do the port-forwarding thing but I don't like the security issues. The VPN capability in the 2.0 firmware is GREAT!
 
How to you specify the display?

I don't see a field to enter the display number in the connection fields.

I tried using hostname.com:display in the VNC server list, but it complained about that.
 
ok i am making this post thru iphone controllimg my computer.

double tap space bar doesnt work to make a period.


as mentioned you have to go to sys preferences -> sharing -> screen sharing -> Computer Settings... and check box vnc viewers may control screen with password and then enter a password and use the same one in this app.

if you have done mac to mac screen sharing it has worked without this checked. mine didn't connect at first and then it was fine after i did. i am using the LAN ip address right now but assume it would work fine since vnc usually works ok from the external ip addy and i have port fwd set up.

Little bit of a refresh lag on the iphone side. a lot of the keyboard shortcuts and helpers dont work as you can see. you would have to be careful if composing an email using this.

this was somethign i almost hacked my v1 iphone for so this is great to have for "real/legit."

awesome in a pinch.

it appears that the connection drops when the iphone screen times out. I set mine down (hey, coffee refill comes first) and then when I woke the screen on the iphone back up it was disconnected.

Seems that the "use mac keyboard" option defaults to off every time (annoying) and "save passowords" defaults to "on" each time. Perhaps this is a draw back of the "lite" version.

good stuff.

follow up: slight bug - the icon in the upper right hand that shows your computer is being remotely controlled stayed on even after disconnecting on the client. No problem to click on it and disconnect the client, but I guess it's still not at 100%. Can't beat the price, though.
 
I have no idea I was thinking the same thing...I hope someone "quotes" us & gives us an answer.
It allows you to view and control the screen of another computer (running a VNC server) on your iPhone, so you can for example, use your work computer when you are on the go. Like Screen Sharing under Leopard.
 
I have no idea I was thinking the same thing...I hope someone "quotes" us & gives us an answer.

ok, you will finde more information here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Network_Computing

the app that is announced here is a client which is able to control a vnc server that is installed on an os x, linux, windows, ...
which means that you can remotely control your computer using your normal desktop on your iphone/ipod touch...

i hope that makes somewhat clearer for you, what the app is for.

cheers
flow
 
I have no idea I was thinking the same thing...I hope someone "quotes" us & gives us an answer.
It lets you remote control a computer that supports the VNC protocol. This includes Macs with the Screen Sharing feature in Leopard turned on, as well as Windows PCs and servers that have VNC installed. VNC is commonly used for technical support and remote management purposes, since you don't actually have to be at the machine to use it. One advantage that VNC has over Microsoft's RDP is that with RDP you often have to "kick" whoever is actually sitting at the machine; with VNC, you are basically sharing the screen, keyboard, and mouse.
 
Since its resolution limited to 1680x1200, its effectively useless for anyone with a screen bigger than Apple's standard 20" models. Shame.

Totally agree. I love the program, but I hate that it chops off the right side of the screen since it only does 1680x1200 and all iMac displays are now 1920x1080. I emailed their tech support and got this response:

There is a bug in the phone OS, which limit the scroll view area. If Apple
fix the bug in the next OS version, we will support larger screens. Actually
running vnc lite in a simulator, we have tested a lot with a 2000x2000 screen.

On the other hand, using a large screen gives too much traffic for the
iPhone, and the screen updates get slow. A screen size around 1000x1000
gives a much better flow.


Sorry I cannot solve this limitation

jan f - mochasoft support

Hopefully this will change in the future. And - anyone know what the truth to this is?
 
It's spiffy on WiFi, dogs on EDGE. But on EDGE it's plenty good enough to check when we're out to make sure our 14-year-old daughter isn't plotting w/ nefarious types via MySpace. (Before anyone starts, no, I don't read her diary. And, yes, she's forbidden to use MySpace, period, but YOU didn't do anything you weren't supposed to do when your parents left you home alone? I consider her diary personal; she can steal all the candy she wants with scant retribution; but I consider checking, via VNC->Leopard ARD, to make sure she's not on MySpace legitimate enforcement of existing rules; and she will be apprised beforehand that such surveillance is now possible in our home and may occur at any time without further notice.)
 
The ability to zoom in/pinch the screen would be a blessing. Maybe tap and hold for Command-Click. I wonder if Apple will ever expand their Remote app (or make a new app) to include mobile screen sharing.

Edit:
Both Lite and Full versions support Zoom and Scroll

Apparently, I missed that.
 
It's spiffy on WiFi, dogs on EDGE. But on EDGE it's plenty good enough to check when we're out to make sure our 14-year-old daughter isn't plotting w/ nefarious types via MySpace. (Before anyone starts, no, I don't read her diary. And, yes, she's forbidden to use MySpace, period, but YOU didn't do anything you weren't supposed to do when your parents left you home alone? I consider her diary personal; she can steal all the candy she wants with scant retribution; but I consider checking, via VNC->Leopard ARD, to make sure she's not on MySpace legitimate enforcement of existing rules; and she will be apprised beforehand that such surveillance is now possible in our home and may occur at any time without further notice.)

Why not just block myspace through parental controls?
 
Since its resolution limited to 1680x1200, its effectively useless for anyone with a screen bigger than Apple's standard 20" models. Shame.

What kind of statement is this? You are going to bash a product limiting to 1680x1200 remote resolution from a device with a 3 inch screen? Sheesh, you are really demanding. What good is 2560x1600 on a 3 inch screen. You would have to scroll forever to get from one end of the screen to the other.
 
Totally agree. I love the program, but I hate that it chops off the right side of the screen since it only does 1680x1200 and all iMac displays are now 1920x1080. I emailed their tech support and got this response:

--------------

There is a bug in the phone OS, which limit the scroll view area. If Apple
fix the bug in the next OS version, we will support larger screens. Actually
running vnc lite in a simulator, we have tested a lot with a 2000x2000 screen.

On the other hand, using a large screen gives too much traffic for the
iPhone, and the screen updates get slow. A screen size around 1000x1000
gives a much better flow.


Sorry I cannot solve this limitation

jan f - mochasoft support

-------------

Hopefully this will change in the future. And - anyone know what the truth to this is?

Actually I'm pretty sure I can guess the truth to this... I think the author does not understand the code because he did not write it. The 1600x1200 limitation happens to be the same issue that plagues VNSea (the open source VNC implementation for jailbrake iPhones). Merely speculation at this point but I think he just took the VNSea code and modified the interface a bit to work with Apple's official APIs/SDK, which would be a violation of GPL unless he posts the source code on his website... There are obviously ways around the limitation he describes, I can think of several possible ways to buffer the screen data to fix it. That would of course require a deeper understanding of the code and the ability to re-write larger portions of it.

*** Dons tin-foil hat ***

(Note that the author is correct that the larger screen resolution on your PC/Mac will bog down updates of the iPhone screen)
 
Why not just block myspace through parental controls?

I was just sort of using MySpace as an example. It is blocked. In fact, before I blocked it, I forbade her use it and she had her myspace page delete on her own initiative. But kids work out systems when they are blocked from MySpace, like they have kids who aren't blocked post to their pages via communication with AIM. Block chat clients, they use e-mail. Block e-mail they find some other unblocked web forums and use those. Ultimately you just have to lock them off the Internet, and then what's the point of the useful aspects of the Internet? (And they use the phone, so you have to forbid phone use.) Actually, Lauren is a pretty good kid who seemed to understand why I gave her a chance at myspace, she knew I had access to her account and could read what people (even in a private, allegedly local kids only group) were sending here -- that was the issue, what she was receiving, not what she was sending. And part of it is just if we say "no computer while we're out", that's what we mean, no matter what she's using it for, and constantly resetting the times on parental controls in a full-time job.

To cut a long philosophical point short, I'd prefer at 14 she not use the Internet for social interaction at all, until she figures out more traditional social interaction appropriate for her age. But, not just her friends, but about every girl her age she knows, this is what they do: TV on, laptop on knee, cell phone to ear, all going at once. I'm glad to take her to concerts, movies, shopping (she needed new underwear, there was a good two-day sale on premium, quality brands, her mom, my wife, was snowed in at work and on call on top of that, so she even let me take her underwear shopping, which, amazingly, she handled so well it was probably more uncomfortable for me than her, and I don't get particularly uncomfortable based on socialized quirks like that). Still, I don't want to cut her off from socializing with peers. It may come to that, to some degree. We try putting her with kids who aren't really allowed Internet use -- I think a lot of them manage to get access to it more than the kids who CAN use it -- and this is all because of religious reasons or based on extreme, irrational moral beliefs that don't jibe with ours or hers, so they aren't compatible friends for Lauren.

At any rate, it boils down to the fact the Internet is a great tool for various uses. So are hammers. I know, I have a hammer. I don't spend all my time with my hammer. We just want her to get a balanced life, not a Luddite, anti-Internet, anti-new-technology life. Especially social skills that don't depend upon Internet social interaction, but are only augmented by the convenience and distance-closing nature of Internet social interaction.
 
Hi,

I have BTTM setup and it actually works. I am trying to connect to my home iMac via VNC Lite and it fails the 'VNC Negotiation' - it says the host ended the connection.

To get BTTM working i simply had to turn it on and it enabled 'Screen Sharing' and 'File Sharing' (nothing else). I edited the 'Computer Settings' for 'Screen Sharing' to provide a password.

I am not at home so cannot config my router to enable port forwarding but it does support the auto forwarding standard UPNP...

Any suggestions?
 
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