I'm not sure Polaris has integrated HBM2 mem controller. Targeting mainstream and having an HBM2 controller hardly seems reasonable, both concerning power and die space. But maybe AMD has that surprised up their sleeve.
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It could be Apple only solution, or Firepro only.
You see, there's just 10% difference on theoretical speed between D300 and D500, but latter has 384-bit bus. So it can take better advantage of the raw power.
But GDDR5/X should be enough, at least theoretically it should double the data rate. Maybe that is enough for Polaris 10.
You see, there's just 10% difference on theoretical speed between D300 and D500, but latter has 384-bit bus. So it can take better advantage of the raw power.
But GDDR5/X should be enough, at least theoretically it should double the data rate. Maybe that is enough for Polaris 10.
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Why is everyone going about with the Gx00 naming scheme? Any leaks in that front? No more Dx10?
That's a good reason 
But I don't see AMD doing a special die for Apple, specially for the nMP with such low volume. Unless it's not exclusive and at a later stage AMD can also use it for regular cards.
But I find it doubtful that it even exists.
And if it does, the performance improvement would warrant the 700 moniker? All models based on the same GPU? How much would be gained in terms of performance? Another 10%?
Unless it also boasts higher DP performance, but that would now be Vega, right?
But I don't see AMD doing a special die for Apple, specially for the nMP with such low volume. Unless it's not exclusive and at a later stage AMD can also use it for regular cards.
But I find it doubtful that it even exists.
And if it does, the performance improvement would warrant the 700 moniker? All models based on the same GPU? How much would be gained in terms of performance? Another 10%?
Unless it also boasts higher DP performance, but that would now be Vega, right?
You're right again. I forgot that. D500 has 4.1x more DP power than D300. SP difference was just 1.1x. And 1.5x in the memory bus.
So, going full Polaris is not comparable with Pitcairn and Tahiti differences. Polaris wont bring that big change to DP performance I suppose, but this is an area AMD has been quiet about.
Update: Ellesmere (Polaris 10) will have new L2 Cache (critical for GPGPU). It should help with memory bus limitations.
So, going full Polaris is not comparable with Pitcairn and Tahiti differences. Polaris wont bring that big change to DP performance I suppose, but this is an area AMD has been quiet about.
Update: Ellesmere (Polaris 10) will have new L2 Cache (critical for GPGPU). It should help with memory bus limitations.
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Yes, and Apple needs to have at least one card with (decent) good DP performance, eventually two as per the last generation.
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The real question is it will be introduced at WWDC ot at year's end closing event...
I'm betting on waiting on macOS.
Or indeed wait for another year (or more with all the delaying) for Skylake-W, which would be a great platform but another year of waiting :-(
Or indeed wait for another year (or more with all the delaying) for Skylake-W, which would be a great platform but another year of waiting :-(
Asus introduced first DP 1.3 compatible UHD 4k IPS 144Hz display prototypes:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Monitor-Display-Hardware-154105/News/Displayport-13-Asus-UHD-144-240-Hz-1196883/&edit-text=
If 4k goes above 60Hz, it needs DP 1.3. MST wont save it. Also HDR is not happening without DP 1.3.
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Monitor-Display-Hardware-154105/News/Displayport-13-Asus-UHD-144-240-Hz-1196883/&edit-text=
If 4k goes above 60Hz, it needs DP 1.3. MST wont save it. Also HDR is not happening without DP 1.3.
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Polaris does not have HBM2 memory controller, however their IMC is compatible with both GDDR5 and GDDR5X.
. However it would be hilarious if the next gen. FirePro cards in Mac Pro would be named that way .
No, I suppose everyone took my prediction as point of view and it started living its own life
. However it would be hilarious if the next gen. FirePro cards in Mac Pro would be named that way .
Yes, this is the question...especially in video editing which the "can" is geared for. I have had to stay with OS X Yosemite for Final Cut Pro X due to reliability (believe it or not).
Since every new mac is not backward compatible in its OS X (or OSMac), "if" the new Mac Pro comes out this year, it has to come out now or soon so professionals can have a some-what stable OS and workflow to work during the transition to the New macOS build later this fall.
Me "thinks" this is why Apple is working hard lately to get El Cap finished so the new Mac Pro 2016 (and other new macs) can launch first with a stable OS, then gear for the next. Better to birth the new macs now at the tail end of the OS build for stability instead of a launch during the new OS and deal with the first generation bugs etc.
Spending this kind of money on a Mac Pro is not justifiable if we have to wait until 2017 for stability if the mac pro 2016 is birthed during the next MacOS cycle in the fall.
Would not be good business to do so...but logic is not used when you have achieved the money coffins that Apple has now.
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...combinable-virtual-ios-desktops-on-a-mac.html
It was a matter of time, to be honest.
It was a matter of time, to be honest.
That's more like it! Minimum requirements for Oculus Rift is 12034p and this Ellesmere Pro scored 14436p. With one GPU and regular GDDR5. Not bad for a $200 card. This means, that MP 2016 starts from ~9-10 TFLOPs configuration with basic dual D310/G300. D510/G500 would be ~11-12 TFLOPs.
D310/G300 is really going to be 2.5x faster than previous generation. Remember that this is what AMD promised? The sweet-spot being at nMP's' 100-125W category. If only Apple give the tools to use this dual GPU power properly.
Metal v2 has to come with openCL 2.1 or equivalent. We'll learn more about this next week too, I suppose.
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If Polaris 10, is the base for next Mac Pro GPU we are looking at 11.6 TFLOPs for dual GPU setup, because the GPU has 2304 GCN cores and 1266 MHz core clock.
P.S. Now that is cool news. http://9to5mac.com/2016/06/09/apple-energy-company/
P.S. Now that is cool news. http://9to5mac.com/2016/06/09/apple-energy-company/
It is very likely that Ellesmere XT will reach Fury Nano in 3Dmark 11. We'll see.
GTX1080 sure is in it own class with 24000p. AMD and Nvidia are playing with different cards. AMD wants to take over the low and middle class market, Nvidia high end.
GTX1080 sure is in it own class with 24000p. AMD and Nvidia are playing with different cards. AMD wants to take over the low and middle class market, Nvidia high end.
