There is the issue with the "easy to win trade war" with China - and maybe $5999 will become $6999 or $7999 - even before adding RAM or cores or TB.....
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MP 7,1 Waiting for Mac Pro 7,1 A1991 (no more)
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All the more reason to get your new Mac Pro before dumb geopolitics makes it even more expensive
My money's on an October event at this point as well. Too much smoke about the 16" MBP and especially given the PR issues they have to work on rehabilitating vis a vis the keyboards, making it an event rather than a press release is a thing they probably want to do.
(With that said, I could also see them just doing a bit journalist get-together in Brooklyn or on their campus or wherever to show off the new pro stuff. But either way it'd be more than just a press release.)
I am hoping to see the damn thing released soon, ideally before November, as that’s when the finance cutoff happens.
The delay is slowly getting to me. The more I read on various forums, the closer I get to backing away from a new machine and get another cMP to have on-hand in case my faithful 2009 quits on me.
Trade war is delayed 'till Christmas and really effects the iPhone 11 a lot more than the Mac Pro. It's September Apple, enough with the Notify Button already.
I mean, I’ve had to redesign my workflow to live without it so far, and it’s going stable, but I’d rather have the Mac Pro.
I've just noticed a potentially bad thing for UK buyers of the 2019 Mac Pro...
The new iPhone Pro is $999 on apple US store, but on UK apple store it is £1049.
I was expecting the Mac Pro to be slightly less than £6000 since iMac pro is $4999 v £4899.
But this worries me that Mac Pro (and apple display) could be more than £6000, maybe closer to £6,300. I really hope not. Stupid Brexit.
The new iPhone Pro is $999 on apple US store, but on UK apple store it is £1049.
I was expecting the Mac Pro to be slightly less than £6000 since iMac pro is $4999 v £4899.
But this worries me that Mac Pro (and apple display) could be more than £6000, maybe closer to £6,300. I really hope not. Stupid Brexit.
Yep, I'll wait until Oct 1st........then start re-thinking direction.
As I was saying months ago that the 2019 MP is really going to be a 2020 MP.So, here we get the iPhone 11 Pro from 1179€ and the Max from 1279€.
I can see where this is going with the Mac Pro...
I can see where this is going with the Mac Pro...
I still can not understand why people are unable to perform simple math. US price do not include taxes, in Europe the base model will be about 6600€ with actual €/$ ratio.
The British Pound is also taking a pounding (pun) against the USD and other currencies due to the political turmoil and No-Deal BREXIT fears so Apple (and others) are hedging by raising prices on the assumption the British Pound will continue to weaken.
I hadn't checked the conversion ratio recently, I had a different reference.
Actually, here, and using the current ratio, it goes over 6700€.
Actually, here, and using the current ratio, it goes over 6700€.
VAT is not exactly the same for all EU countries, that’s why I wrote “about”. Of course price may vary a little bit depending by EU country and/or excange rate. I guess 100€ more or less isn’t going to change anyone life anyway.
https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_custo...tion/vat/how_vat_works/rates/vat_rates_en.pdf
https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_custo...tion/vat/how_vat_works/rates/vat_rates_en.pdf
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I've seen the comparisons for building between the i7 Mac Mini and the 10-core iMac Pro. The iMac Pro was faster, but not by any large margin. Disk I/O was a much larger factor in compile time than we expected, and linking created bottlenecks of single-threaded behavior, and so the Mac Mini, when upgraded with a larger and faster SSD, kept within spitting distance of the iMac Pro.
But considering the build time and size of the stuff I've regularly dealt with, an iMac Pro for development is usually overkill, outside of some specific niches. The Mac Pro even more so.
Depending on the size of the codebase, it's really hard to recommend either of those machines. Heck, even for larger codebases, if you can avoid building the whole world, the Mac Mini can still do your heavy lifting when looking at compile times. The bigger issue is not having access to a good GPU for compute if you work on projects like Affinity Photo with the Mini, but you can usually get good enough performance for testing out of the 5K iMac, which is about the sweet spot, IMO. You just can't buy that headless.
If there's one pro niche that's pretty well-served by Apple's current lineup, it's developers (especially since as you say they generally aren't very GPU-dependent.)
Agreed. Which makes sense, give that it’s the one area that the Mac is very important to Apple: developing iOS apps for the platform they do actually care about.
The iMac Pro is arguably the perfect app development machine.
- Spacious screen for Xcode, especially Storyboard / SwiftUI preview layouts
- Fast 3000 MB/s SSD for compile times
- Ample cores to help with running simultaneous unit tests, virtual machines
- Quiet even under load
- Plenty of ports to have multiple Lightning, USB, Thunderbolt cables flying
I don’t see the Mac Pro being as good for app development, and its strengths are not what app developers need. I don’t even know why they revealed it at the WWDC - it just got them boos from people who didn’t understand the significance of things like a studio monitor for $6000, with or without stand.
I think it makes sense to drop the Mac Pro at WWDC because it's their general "pro" event, even if it's a developer's conference.
But yeah, the stand (in messaging and audience) was a weird fit for WWDC. Drop that at NAB and people would go ape over it, but for people who don't know or care about why someone would spend many thousands on a monitor, it was a weird thing to do.
As long as you don't want a headless iMac, sure.
I'm in a weird place where my other hobby is photo work where the 2015 5K iMac will stomp all over the Mac Mini 2018 in Affinity Photo due to the recent metal acceleration. And Lightroom being unfriendly to eGPUs. Whoops.
If you can justify the price. Sure. I'd generally give the nod to the MBP over the iMac Pro, partly because you have more choice in display for your desk setup, and partly because the sort of codebases where the iMac Pro is a need instead of a luxury over what the MBP can handle isn't super common.
And yes, I've used an iMac Pro for work. It's a pretty good setup with a second 1440p 27" monitor for testing non-Retina and getting a bit extra space (QHD displays are a little cramped for what I do). I'd probably prefer a 34" UW if I could only have one display. Which is what I'm using at home right now.
Yeah, I thought the new display was impressive, but I'm interested in photography and video. But generally, Apple does have to sell the complete picture of what it is they are building to have a cohesive story, and I don't think Apple was ready for NAB this year, and delaying after WWDC would probably have helped bleed even more folks away. I don't think they had much choice in timing this year. The huge lead time between announcement and availability tells me they felt they couldn't wait.
$6000 and you still can't add a simple SSD drive and have to buy a 3rd party extension card. Somehow a no-go...