MP 7,1 Waiting for Mac Pro 7,1 A1991 (no more)

[jigme_senge]

Resolve user here.

Things are so close now to hearing "they got fired for buying Apple."

In fact, unless things change REALLY soon (ie by nov 1), there will be a mass exodus in post.

 

[NY Guitarist]

people looking for an alternative to FCPX should check out BlackmagicDesign's Resolve 12.

It's free, cross-platform, and backed by one of the most reputable companies in post.

I've used just about everything at one time or another, and DaVinci Resolve is damn good.

my MP4,1 won't run it, but when (or if...) Apple releases a new MBP, I'm definitely going all-in with Resolve.

What video card are you using? I have it running on machines as old as MP3.1

 

[Hank Carter]

Resolve user here.

Things are so close now to hearing "they got fired for buying Apple."

In fact, unless things change REALLY soon (ie by nov 1), there will be a mass exodus in post.

Yep. I have a z640 waiting in my BHphoto shopping cart.

 

[JamesPDX]

Because you can't run Media Composer on a watchband.

 

[Mago]

Moreless on topic...

You dont feel when Apple said you "can" do something on some iThing it sounds exactly as when somebody stingy tells you can live on 2 dolar a day....

 

[zephonic]

I've used just about everything at one time or another, and DaVinci Resolve is damn good.



What video card are you using? I have it running on machines as old as MP3.1

A bog-standard GT120. According to BlackMagic's sys reqs, my machine meets the minimum requirements, but as soon as I try to import footage the application quits.

 

[Jaho101]

A bog-standard GT120. According to BlackMagic's sys reqs, my machine meets the minimum requirements, but as soon as I try to import footage the application quits.

I really don't think that the GT120 minimum requirement was ever really tested seriously to see if it'd work. Resolve's a power hungry program, especially when working with RED footage, and the average user is going to be working on a pretty good machine. After all, it is video. Resolve hated my old Macbook because it had a less than HD sized screen, and it couldn't scale down correctly, making it basically unusable.

 

[NY Guitarist]

A bog-standard GT120. According to BlackMagic's sys reqs, my machine meets the minimum requirements, but as soon as I try to import footage the application quits.

Resolve requires horsepower. The GT120 isn't going be viable.

Make sure you have the latest updates, enough RAM, fast read/write storage, better video card and you're good to go with that 4.1.

 

[jigme_senge]

We had a nMP running Resolve, but we had so many problems with the nMP GPUs (D700s!) that this summer Apple offered to exchange it for an iMac. Seriously. I still cannot believe that happened.

 

[ManuelGomes]

I'd like to see a new Magic Keyboard with the rumored OLED row but E Ink I'll pass - I guess
http://wccftech.com/apple-reportedly-working-magic-keyboard-eink-display-keys-video/

They could redo the Magic Mouse as well placing the port in the front. I know it would kill the aesthetics but you could charge it as you use it. But it charges quick enough anyway.

 

[pat500000]

We had a nMP running Resolve, but we had so many problems with the nMP GPUs (D700s!) that this summer Apple offered to exchange it for an iMac. Seriously. I still cannot believe that happened.

Nmp and resolve is a no-go?

 

[Zarniwoop]

November is the month of the Mac releases? More and more "sources" are pointing to it...

nMP v2 could be introduce then too with:

• 4-14 core Broadwell-EP with efficiency refined Polaris 10 G300 4GB as standard, "available today"
• Vega 11 Pro G500 8GB and XT G700 16GB available 5 weeks later
• All models with 16GB DDR4-ECC RAM, 512 GB SSD M.2 as standard

Same time

• MBP 15"-16" Skylake Iris Pro 580 (+ Polaris 11 35W model) with OLED touch panel on keyboard
• riMac 21.5" + 27" Kaby Lake Iris Pro and 27" Kaby Lake + refined Polaris
• MB Air/Pro 13" reborn, Kaby Lake U
• MB Kaby Lake Core M update

Future of Mac mini...???

 

[pat500000]

November is the month of the Mac releases? More and more "sources" are pointing to it...

nMP v2 could be introduce then too with:

• 4-14 core Broadwell-EP with efficiency refined Polaris 10 G300 4GB as standard, "available today"
• Vega 11 Pro G500 8GB and XT G700 16GB available 5 weeks later
• All models with 16GB DDR4-ECC RAM, 512 GB SSD M.2 as standard

Same time

• MBP 15"-16" Skylake Iris Pro 580 (+ Polaris 11 35W model) with OLED touch panel on keyboard
• riMac 21.5" + 27" Kaby Lake Iris Pro and 27" Kaby Lake + refined Polars
• MB Air/Pro 13" reborn, Kaby Lake U
• MB Kaby Lake Core M update

Future of Mac mini...???

I think with recent rumor(s), they are planning for ARM. Apparently, someone from this site stated that 10 year contract with intel had expired this year.
So it's possible they might not even release anything this year.

 

[Zarniwoop]

Mac Pro with ARM is like a Ferrari with Vespa's engine.

But it might still move, so why not? And there's the logo with a horse.

 

[Mago]

November is the month of the Mac releases...
Future of Mac mini...???

I fear the mini will be discontinued and follow by an Mac Server appliance on ARM cpu and some ultracheap ARM MacBook available only for schools.

 

[pat500000]

Mac Pro with ARM is like a Ferrari with Vespa's engine.

But it might still move, so why not? And there's the logo with a horse.

That's hard to say. It may be Ferrari for certain apps...but probably meh for others.
Who knows...arm chip didn't even come out yet.

 

[kennyisalive]

November is the month of the Mac releases? More and more "sources" are pointing to it...

nMP v2 could be introduce then too with:

• 4-14 core Broadwell-EP with efficiency refined Polaris 10 G300 4GB as standard, "available today"
• Vega 11 Pro G500 8GB and XT G700 16GB available 5 weeks later
• All models with 16GB DDR4-ECC RAM, 512 GB SSD M.2 as standard

Same time

• MBP 15"-16" Skylake Iris Pro 580 (+ Polaris 11 35W model) with OLED touch panel on keyboard
• riMac 21.5" + 27" Kaby Lake Iris Pro and 27" Kaby Lake + refined Polars
• MB Air/Pro 13" reborn, Kaby Lake U
• MB Kaby Lake Core M update

Future of Mac mini...???

Garbage specs... time to move on to PC

 

[AdamSeen]

November is the month of the Mac releases? More and more "sources" are pointing to it...

nMP v2 could be introduce then too with:

• 4-14 core Broadwell-EP with efficiency refined Polaris 10 G300 4GB as standard, "available today"
• Vega 11 Pro G500 8GB and XT G700 16GB available 5 weeks later
• All models with 16GB DDR4-ECC RAM, 512 GB SSD M.2 as standard

Same time

• MBP 15"-16" Skylake Iris Pro 580 (+ Polaris 11 35W model) with OLED touch panel on keyboard
• riMac 21.5" + 27" Kaby Lake Iris Pro and 27" Kaby Lake + refined Polars
• MB Air/Pro 13" reborn, Kaby Lake U
• MB Kaby Lake Core M update

Future of Mac mini...???

Zarni, where are you getting the sources from? (just so I can stay atop of the rumour mill)

As AMD pros are rumoured to be released before the end of the year, it may mean we could see what you've described at the next apple event instead of in the new year.

 

[NostromoUK]

Resolve user here, too....i'm waiting two more weeks, if no news then will HAVE to go for a Hackintosh or PC.

 

[ManuelGomes]

Z, that sounds about right but Vega 11? I'd bet more on Vega 10 Pro and XT. We know (sort of) that Vega 11 will come only Q1 or H1 next year, qualifying might have started already or not, so to have it in the nMP I'd say almost a year from now, but I could be wrong of course.
Vega 11 would however be more in line with the available TDP.

 

[AdamSeen]

The identically specced Firepro W9000 was a 270w+ part, and the D700 sub 150w. That means they are happy to down clock high TDP cards. A better outcome would be had by choosing Vega 10.

 

[koyoot]

I will clarify things a bit

Lisa Su in July have said that Vega architecture comes within two upcoming quarters. She meant: Q4 and Q1 2017.
Then we have investor slides where there is information that Vega for Enthusiast market is coming 1H 2017.

Next are information from VideoCardz, FUDZilla, and WCCFtech, that Vega 10 is coming this year, for professional market, and Vega 11 will replace Polaris in professional/server market by next year.

What all of this means?
Vega 11 - RX 490 - high-end market is coming this year.
Vega 10 - Enthusiast GPU is coming this year, for professional usage, with Enthusiast availability in consumer space next year.

For me, the only place where Vega 10 could appear this year is Mac Pro. Its small volume enough to produce enough chips(we are talking about 30k computers shipped this year - 60000 GPUs). Vega 11? Possibly, as the base model, or in the middle.

Also keep in mind that The GPUs will be very high clocked. Consumer parts can clock as high as 1.75 GHz stock, with Server/professional ones clocked at 1.5 GHz. So there is plenty of room for undervolting and saving the power from thermal envelope on the GPUs.

4096 GCN core chip, made on process that is not letting down the microarchitecture, with 1.25 GHz giving 10.240 TFLOPs of compute power.
3072 GCN core chip made on the same process with 1.25 GHz will give 7.68 TFLOPs of compute power.

 

[Floris]

Apple, please, just .. release new stuff. So we can make a choice between workstations and waste our money again.

 

[shaunp]

We had a nMP running Resolve, but we had so many problems with the nMP GPUs (D700s!) that this summer Apple offered to exchange it for an iMac. Seriously. I still cannot believe that happened.

That's is absolutely piss poor on their part. Proper shameful.
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Mac Pro with ARM is like a Ferrari with Vespa's engine.

But it might still move, so why not? And there's the logo with a horse.

Thing is the Mac Pro is no longer a Ferrari, more like a super mini with a 1.8 turbo. I recently ditched my 6-core nMP and with the money I got for it got a X99-based PC - 6-core 6850k (~30% quicker than the nMP), 128GB RAM (this I needed the most), 512GB PCI-e SSD. Plenty of space for storage and I can upgrade easily upgrade to 22 cores if I need it. I could have upgraded the nMP to 128GB, but it costs a small fortune, it was cheaper to sell it and move on. And if I wanted a Ferrari I'd be looking at Z940 or a P900.

 

[Zarniwoop]

I will clarify things a bit

Lisa Su in July have said that Vega architecture comes within two upcoming quarters. She meant: Q4 and Q1 2017.
Then we have investor slides where there is information that Vega for Enthusiast market is coming 1H 2017.

Next are information from VideoCardz, FUDZilla, and WCCFtech, that Vega 10 is coming this year, for professional market, and Vega 11 will replace Polaris in professional/server market by next year.

What all of this means?
Vega 11 - RX 490 - high-end market is coming this year.
Vega 10 - Enthusiast GPU is coming this year, for professional usage, with Enthusiast availability in consumer space next year.

For me, the only place where Vega 10 could appear this year is Mac Pro. Its small volume enough to produce enough chips(we are talking about 30k computers shipped this year - 60000 GPUs). Vega 11? Possibly, as the base model, or in the middle.

Also keep in mind that The GPUs will be very high clocked. Consumer parts can clock as high as 1.75 GHz stock, with Server/professional ones clocked at 1.5 GHz. So there is plenty of room for undervolting and saving the power from thermal envelope on the GPUs.

4096 GCN core chip, made on process that is not letting down the microarchitecture, with 1.25 GHz giving 10.240 TFLOPs of compute power.
3072 GCN core chip made on the same process with 1.25 GHz will give 7.68 TFLOPs of compute power.

Vega 10 can be too hungry for the Tube. And too expensive to under clock. Unless the times of dual-GPU are over. A single Vega 10 could be possible. But then again, can dual Vega 11 XT still be faster combination?

Dual Vega 11 can give best perf/watt for the Tube. And perf/price as well.
[doublepost=1476460708][/doublepost]http://www.anandtech.com/show/10759/opencapi-unveiled-amd-ibm-google-more

This is what AMD and IBM would like the future to be. And quite the same what I've been writing here too: co-processors era a la Amiga is coming back. CPU's are hitting the wall, specialised co-processors are needed.