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BenConlin44

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Mar 20, 2020
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Amazon UK had the i5 1TB version for £1,829 so I ordered it but now it's still out of stock with delivery date pending, very annoying.
I’m afraid I’ve checked this deal today and it has 1 review. The customer has pictures showing that although they ordered a 4TB model he actually got a 2TB model with Touch Bar from last year with butterfly keyboard. If I were you I’d try and cancel it. The seller was sneaky and sold the device in a 2020 box showing the new picture and keyboard.
 

hungryghosty

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May 14, 2020
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I’m afraid I’ve checked this deal today and it has 1 review. The customer has pictures showing that although they ordered a 4TB model he actually got a 2TB model with Touch Bar from last year with butterfly keyboard. If I were you I’d try and cancel it. The seller was sneaky and sold the device in a 2020 box showing the new picture and keyboard.

As long as your order from Amazon themselves and not any third party marketplace resellers you'll be ok.
 

Arren Moon

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Jun 11, 2020
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I currently have the MacBook Pro 15inch (Mid 2014) with 2.8GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7 (I7-4980HQ) (4th gen) Processor and 16GB Ram (1600MHz DDR3 L).

Is it worth upgrading to the MBP 13inch (2020) with the 2.3 GHz/4.1 GHz Core i7-1068NG7 (10th Gen) Processor and
32GB of 3733MHz LPDDR4X RAM?

Would I see any major difference in performance?
Any thoughts?
 

matram

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Sep 18, 2011
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You will gain about 50% CPU performance and a more compact package.

You will loose the larger screen.

If your memory pressure is currently yellow or red, increased RAM will help, otherwise not so much.

Your old computer is 6 years, for me it would be well past the time to change, but it depends on your use case and financial situation.
 
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Alexander_im

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I currently have the MacBook Pro 15inch (Mid 2014) with 2.8GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7 (I7-4980HQ) (4th gen) Processor and 16GB Ram (1600MHz DDR3 L).

Is it worth upgrading to the MBP 13inch (2020) with the 2.3 GHz/4.1 GHz Core i7-1068NG7 (10th Gen) Processor and
32GB of 3733MHz LPDDR4X RAM?

Would I see any major difference in performance?
Any thoughts?
Just upgraded to 2.0/16gb 13” from 2.5 i7 2015 15”, basically the same machine you have but with a Force touch trackpad.

If you’ve already worked outdoors you know what a burden it is to take it anywhere. I got used to it and worked on the go for several years but boy what a relief to have such a blazing fast beast in such compact package now. I used a corporate 13” nTB for 2 years as my main machine and even in this case 13” 2020 feels like a solid upgrade.

From my personal experience it takes several days to get used to the screen dimensions. But then you want to use it everywhere, because it’s so comfortable.

I don’t know what your priorities are in terms of performance. I’m a journalist and a writer, and mainly use MBP for writing and browsing, as well as working with pictures and videos (Lightroom, Photoshop and occasional Final cut). The keyboard is fantastic — much more stable than 2014/2015 edition
 
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fandy

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Jan 5, 2020
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Are we likely to see a refresh of the 16" MBP on June 22? The recent deals by Apple make it seem very likely...
 
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akuraktz

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Are we likely to see a refresh of the 16" MBP on June 22? The recent deals by Apple make it seem very likely...
maybe new cpu, faster ram and some little improvements but is it worth for me, common issues like audio popping in the 2019 16 inch are inacceptable for a premium machine
 

DanMan619

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Dec 30, 2012
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Are we likely to see a refresh of the 16" MBP on June 22? The recent deals by Apple make it seem very likely...

I personally don't think so. I think they'll save that for fall/winter this year. Those deals happen pretty sporadically all the time, i don't think they're much of an indicator.
 

Icehart

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May 20, 2020
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maybe new cpu, faster ram and some little improvements but is it worth for me, common issues like audio popping in the 2019 16 inch are inacceptable for a premium machine
The popping issue is still here?
Thought it has been fixed.
 

koyoot

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Jun 5, 2012
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Are we likely to see a refresh of the 16" MBP on June 22? The recent deals by Apple make it seem very likely...
The refresh won't happen because Intel does not have any new CPUs, however...

You just got a new BTO option for Radeon Pro 5600M with 8 GB HBM2. 40 CUs, 394 GB/s of memory bandwidth, up to 75% faster than Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB. All of this sqeezed into 45-55W TDP package.
 

fandy

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Jan 5, 2020
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The refresh won't happen because Intel does not have any new CPUs, however...

You just got a new BTO option for Radeon Pro 5600M with 8 GB HBM2. 40 CUs, 394 GB/s of memory bandwidth, up to 75% faster than Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB. All of this sqeezed into 45-55W TDP package.
What do you mean no new CPUs? The 16" is still at 8th gen Intel vs 13" at 10th gen. I know there's not a huge difference but makes sense for them to update it as the flagship model.
 

Falhófnir

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So either this lines up with the rumour the next 16" will be an Arm machine, or they aren't bothering with the 10th gen non upgrade and will just go straight to Tiger lake next year... both of which I guess also fit with the early 2021 mini LED rumour as well.

What do you mean no new CPUs? The 16" is still at 8th gen Intel vs 13" at 10th gen. I know there's not a huge difference but makes sense for them to update it as the flagship model.
it's on 9th gen - and the update to 10th really is minuscule and mostly gained by higher clock ceilings so it's possible the gain for the under-volted chips in the 16" (which struggle to get to their maximum clocks) would be literally zero.
 

KPOM

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Oct 23, 2010
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why would they add ARM to low end models first? Id have thought they'd go first for the expensive top end models
Lower end users are less likely to be bothered by the initial lack of native software. Apple’s own software will be ready Day 1, but third party software may need to run in some form of emulation or not run at all until recompiled.
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Well, it doesn't look like Apple wants my money this year. Might have a look at the XPS 17.
My guess is that Apple will give the 16” one more Intel update. Maybe the 11th gen.
 
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scouser75

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Lower end users are less likely to be bothered by the initial lack of native software. Apple’s own software will be ready Day 1, but third party software may need to run in some form of emulation or not run at all until recompiled.
Makes sense. So not a snow balls chance of a 16" MBP this year then!
 

meteoreos

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Nov 8, 2016
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After my mid-2015 MBP (15 inch) died a month ago, I’m in need of a new MBP. I’m eyeing the new 13” MBP with the 10th gen i7 processor. I would have gone with the 16” but I’m worried about the dGPU failing on me again and the noise when connected to an external monitor.

Could someone explain the difference between a 28W CPU (the i7 in the 2020 MBP) and a 45W CPU typically found in 15” and up. What difference would it make in terms of real world performance? Also, coming from a 2015 model, can I expect a significant speed improvement?
 

ctjack

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I’m eyeing the new 13” MBP with the 10th gen i7 processor. I would have gone with the 16” but I’m worried about the dGPU failing on me again and the noise when connected to an external monitor.
Noise is only when you keep the lid open. If you close the lid, then external will be ok.
MBP 16 has more value in it, since MBP 13 10th gen is just a minor upgrade. It is faster than your old MBP 15 2015, but not that much of a difference.
Could someone explain the difference between a 28W CPU (the i7 in the 2020 MBP) and a 45W CPU typically found in 15” and up. What difference would it make in terms of real world performance? Also, coming from a 2015 model, can I expect a significant speed improvement?
So if you buy MBP 16 inch, performance wise MBP 13 will only be equal in 3-4 years. If you buy MBP 13 inch, then you will be 3-4 years behind MBP 16.
Basically we are speaking about 6/8 cores in MBP 16 and only 4 in MBP 13. Second one is the dGPU, which is much better on MBP 16. Speakers, battery life, screen estate better.
28W CPU in MBP 13 is U-series chip, while MBP 16 has H-series chip.
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All of above mentioned matters only if you use the power, because in single core mode they are all the same. So no difference for casual tasks such as web surfing, emails, Netflix, Youtube.
 
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