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Walmart’s been my personal preference to shop now compared to other major retailers like Target (in-store) or Amazon (online), and to be honest? Don’t miss Apple Pay in the slightest. Scan & Go is way more convenient than the traditional shopping experience + Apple Pay.

Lame they don’t support it, but as long as I have Scan & Go, I don’t even really care.
Scan and go would be incredible if they had a ‘buy with apple pay’ button in the app instead of forcing you to store your real card details. Apple Pay works online too, you know.
 
My Walmart doesn’t stop you at the door at all. Rarely with S&G it will ask for an employee to come verify a few items, but 99% of the time the experience is super smooth. S&G makes existing checkout feel ancient.

Sam’s Club is even better because you can confirm the payment in app, and ours also has their new AI detectors installed so you just walk right in, scan your product, and leave. Never have to go to a register or talk to anyone if you don’t want. It’s awesome
Except they force you to save your real credit card info with all the security risks that entails. I wish they had the ‘pay with apple pay’ button as an option. Apple Pay works online too.
 
Wait…why in Canada then? Do all those perfectly valid and not at all circular reasons not apply to Canadians somehow?

What a non answer. Might as well have just stayed silent.
It looks like those reasons only apply in the US and Mexico. Only in those two countries, out of more than 20 where walmart has a presence, they refuse to accept contactless.
 
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Walmart Pay is Walmart's own proprietary payment app so it doesn't have to pay any other fees to others like Apple. It also links into Walmart's IT system to track user's purchases and can use that information for internal tracking purposes.
You’re wrong about the fees. They’re saving no money. As long as Walmart Pay accepts credit cards they still have to pay fees to visa, mastercard, etc. To Apple they don’t have to pay fees anyway, that’s a widespread myth. Apple doesn’t charge merchants any fees, it only charges fees to banks who let their customers add their cards to apple pay.
 
Exactly. And the reason they do accept Apple Pay and contactless card payments in Canada is that card interchange fees are much lower there than in the US.

(And in Europe, they’re cheaper again, with retailers paying around 7x less than US businesses do to process card transactions!)

When you’re the size of Wal Mart, interchange fees add up to an enormous amount of money: BILLIONS of $ per year. Can’t blame them for trying to find cheaper alternatives!
But they’re still paying card interchange fees as long as they take chip cards and walmart pay uses people’s credit cards. They’d have to go cash only to avoid the fees. Furthermore, it isn’t just Canada. Walmart has a presence in more than 20 countries and takes contactless in all but two (US and Mexico).
 
Canadians were early adopters of contactless payment just as they were with chip and pin

if they didn't have contactless payment in Canada they would be the single outlier for most people

still blows my mind when I see an American have to sign a credit card slip!
It isn’t just Canada, though. Walmart has stores in over 20 countries and the only ones where they refuse to take contactless are the USA and Mexico.
 
If that's true, then that's probably the real reason they don't take Apple Pay - they don't want to pay to get terminals that accept contactless.

Magstripe is very much on the way out... there's already cards issued without it, and by 2033 no cards will be issued with it.

But AFAIK, there's no plans to phase out chips at all so Walmart might never be forced to install terminals that accept contactless.
They already have terminals that can accept contactless, they just turn off the feature via software.
 
Wal Mart pays billions per year in interchange fees. That alone is a huge incentive for them to try and find cheaper alternatives.
And they don’t save a penny by turning off contactless. As long as they take chip cards and let people store credit card info in their apps they’re still paying all those billions worth of interchange fees.
 
Ohh... this is the first time i see it stated that the Walmart thing does not accept NFC payments at all. It's not Apple Pay specific.

Thanks for making things clear for this europe guy.

Btw, all my cards - the actual plastic - can be used for wireless payments without Apple in the way. Is nfc payment only available via Apple in the US?
No the cards exist too. However, it’s too difficult for merchants to allow tap with cards and block apple pay, so they simply shut off contactless altogether when they refuse to accept apple pay.
 
Nothing to do with the cost of the terminals - that’s barely a blip to a company like Wal Mart. It’s the cost of processing each transaction, ie: interchange fees.
It isn’t that either. They’re still paying the same interchange fees just by accepting cards at the registers and in their apps. They’d need to go cash only to save those.
 
Wal Mart is well aware of this. They just don’t like being fleeced for billions of $ by incredibly profitable, monopolistic payment networks. But unlike every small business in the USA, Wal Mart actually has the scale and clout to try and do something about it.
They why don’t they go cash only? unless they do that, they’re not saving a penny worth of card network fees because there’s no extra fee for contactless; they’re still paying exactly the same fee on every chip and online (as in their apps) credit card transaction.
 
Walmart doesn't accept tap to pay in order to save money. Full stop.
And they’re not saving a penny by doing so. Apple doesn’t charge them any fee, and the card networks charge them the same fee whether or not contactless is enabled. No, there must be another reason why they’re refusing.
 
Walmart as the seller can:
  • cut SamGoogFlix in on EVERY transaction by SamGoogFlix people and have a chunk of the revenue flow off to SamGoogFlix OR
  • roll their own and keep that chunk of revenue.
Except Apple doesn’t charge walmart for accepting apple pay (it’s a widespread myth). Apple charges banks a fee, but not merchants. Furthermore, Walmart still pays credit card fees as long as it takes chip cards and its apps accept credit cards. In other words, contrary to your belief based upon a myth Walmart isn’t saving a penny by shutting off contactless. They have other reasons to do so, which they’ve never revealed, but everything points to harvesting customer data.
 
walmart barely makes a 3% profit, so avoiding any fee or royalty at all is the goal
Turning off contactless doesn’t save them that 3% fee, though. They still have to pay it when people insert their card or store it in Walmart Pay.
 
I am a current Walmart+ member and use the Scan and Go whenever I physically visit Walmart. 90% of the time I have my groceries and other purchases delivered to my home within the 2 hour time frame I choose. I love the Scan and Go feature, as I scan and bag my groceries as I go. I use the dedicated Scan and Go checkout or whichever checkout is available, select the only card I have saved to my account, my PayPal debit card because I receive 5% cash back for every grocery purchase. Scanning takes and paying takes me less than 30 seconds and I’m walking out the door to my car. I rather pay that way, as I hate interacting with cashiers and prefer to bag my groceries my way.
don’t you wish it had the pay with apple pay button instead of having to store your actual card details in the app?
 
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You can link your debit or credit card in its app for payment.
When you use the self checkout register, you can also log into your account with your telephone and pay for your stuff via the linked account.
Walmart also better tracks your purchase history.
Walmart doesn't offer contactless (tapping) payment. You can't tap your debit/credit card to the card reader but must insert or slide the card to pay.
Then they’re not saving any credit card fees.
 
Walmart's excuses for why they don't accept Apple Pay ring extremely hollow as they do accept it in Canada, so what's so different about the U.S. market?
They accept it in most of the 20+ countries where they have a presence, with the US and Mexico being the only ones where they don’t.
 
It’s crazy (to me) that in the States they still don’t have contactless debit/credit cards.

Most people who use Apple Pay in Canada do it purely for the convenience. They have no idea it’s actually safer.
They do have contactless cards in the US. Walmart doesn’t allow any form pf contactless to be used at its stores.
 
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