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iPod WE WANT OUR iPOD CLASSIC BACK!
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My Lumia 640 has 208GB on it ($48 phone with $99 200GB memory SD Card added for a whopping total of $147 for a smart phone that has Bluetooth, WiFi and can play most media).
Frankly, I'd say a dedicated music only device is not a PLUS, but a NEGATIVE. My battery lasts about 4 days with regular use as well. It has real volume buttons and can talk to my car stereo via Bluetooth for music and phone (and the car stereo controls are on the steering wheel). I don't see how an iPod Classic can touch that and I personally never really cared for the click wheel, but I suppose it's better than looking down (steering wheel controls are better yet). I'm only posting because I saw your post make really poor points and for some reason this thread is still subscribed to from YEARS AGO.
It all depends how you use it. I plug my iPod into it's dock every morning when I arrive at work and it's left playing music until I leave 9 hours later. I'm in and out of my office all day out on the factory floor and in the main offices and have to take my phone with me so the constant plugging in and unplugging rules out using the phone as a music player as it would be a total nightmare.
I have a 160GB iPod classic (the last iteration that came with Genius support). Bought it used at a gamestop four years ago and then got it replaced at the Apple Store last year when the battery died. I love it to death, but for very large music libraries the interface is just overwhelmed. I have nearly 11,000 songs in my library (along with audiobooks, podcasts, etc), and the scroll wheel interface is just too slow and imprecise to navigate that kind of data. I'd much rather have a large iPod Touch.
What I'm saying is you could buy a second Lumia 640 for $48 + $99 and essentially have a 208GB iPod Touch that could also be used as a backup phone or 2nd number if desired. There's simply no need for an iPod Classic when you can get 208 GB of solid state storage on a powerful quad-core snap-dragon for $147. In case you hadn't noticed, I'm recommending a Windows phone because it's a freaking STEAL. $48 for the power of a $300 Android or $550 iPhone? I could buy TEN of these things for the price of a single iPhone 5S (or 3 with memory expansion). So the interface is slightly different. Big deal. Apple is overrated and overpriced and this is from a Mac user of 10 years now. If Apple doesn't get their crap together soon in the Mac World, I might switch there too. The Mac needs a far more powerful GPU option.
I would look for alternatives if my classic ever broke and couldn't be repaired but I'm very happy with my current set-up.
Yes, we know there are many alternatives, but the thing is that the iPod Classic is an unique thing and the ones who are screaming for an return of the iPod Classic aren't searching for a might-be-a-good-enough-replacement. We want the iPod Classic back! Simply as that
I continue to use my 160GB Classic in my car each and every day. NOTHING can ever take it's place and I'm sure not going to use an iPhone or any other phone to listen to music in the car. Those require looking at the screen to do anything whereas I can just skip a song or pause from touching the click wheel.
I have another car where I keep my old iPod Photo in it. It connects through the USB connector and I keep it in the glove box and just control the iPod through the stereos touch screen.
I've been going through all the 13,000+ songs on my iPod since January while at my job and I'm only making my way through the letter S.
I also bought a 16GB iPod Nano a few years back before they discontinued them. You know the one that could be worn as a watch. I haven't touched it in probably two years. I don't even know where it's at. That was a horrible iPod.
I have another car where I keep my old iPod Photo in it. It connects through the USB connector and I keep it in the glove box and just control the iPod through the stereos touch screen.
I've been going through all the 13,000+ songs on my iPod since January while at my job and I'm only making my way through the letter S.
I also bought a 16GB iPod Nano a few years back before they discontinued them. You know the one that could be worn as a watch. I haven't touched it in probably two years. I don't even know where it's at. That was a horrible iPod.
Nice try. But I completely disagree and can destroy your premise using Steve Jobs own actions.
1) Jobs never dwelt in the past. He embraced technological innovation wherever it might apply regardless of what lost out in the process.
2) Jobs invented the concept of the iPad before he left Apple in 1985. Apple wouldn't let him make it. But Scully eventually tried to turn it into the Newton.
3) Jobs killed the Newton upon his return, and didn't give us the same concept again for over a decade, because the Newton was in every way inferior to what Jobs had envisioned.
4) In the interim he gave us the iPod. He could have implemented it using a Newton-like interface, but that would have been moving backward. Jobs presided over the gradual integration of video and apps into the iPod over time until the technology arrived to deliver the iPad/iPhone.
5) Early speculation about the iPhone showed both a physical and a virtual click-wheel interface. jobs could have chosen to implement that, but it doesn't make any sense. He didn't because it isn't as efficient for navigation as touching, and he would have likely used that for the original iPod had the technology existed at the time.
6) In 2009, Jobs gave us iTunes LP, something he was passionate about, something he considered essential to the full personal music experience. Viewing beautiful album artwork and contents while listening to the music -- the missing component to the iPod -- something which the tiny video display tried to add with the technology available in the preceding years. Something the Newton tech wasn't capable of offering when the iPod was released.
7) The iPod Touch was released by Jobs to give customers a better experience than the iPod Classic, at a time when Apple had its hands full as a brand new competitor in a brand new business. He could have just not addressed the iPod crowd at all. But he wanted to bring what he perceived as a superior experience to a device he was passionate about. Moreover, the iPod Touch gives the customer the best of both worlds, streaming and local files. Jobs saw the future of the iPod and it didn't involve a click wheel, lack of album art and liner notes, tiny video, and limited function. He saw it as the portable experience he could have sitting in his living room. Jobs planned to kill the classic from the day he released it. Jobs died 4 years after the Classic was updated, and for all practical purposes other than fluctuating disk capacity, remained unchanged for all four of those years. Prior to that the iPod received notable updates very year since its release. If Jobs really thought the iPod Classic was the pinnacle of personal music, his gift to music lovers worldwide, he would have likely gone out of his way to make at least one last update to cement it as his legacy to music, just like he went out of his way to offer an iPod version of the iPhone at a time when it would have been least convenient.
The iPod Touch IS his legacy.
Don't believe me? This picture says it all.
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Jobs = Focus
iPod Classic = Focus on Music and Music only (Pure and Minimalistic)
The Classic was killed years after he passed away not before, so to say he would have killed it is pure speculation.
Sorry but that picture proves otherwise. Jobs is not sitting in an empty room, with only the finest stereo equipment money he can by, completely absorbed in the music. He's reading a book, he's looking at the album art and reading the liner notes, he has what appears to be a notebook, for jotting down thoughts, and possibly a day-planner. All the things the iPod Touch would be a perfect replacement for in a modern version of that picture.
Moreover, your Jobs/iPod Classic = "focus on music and music only" argument is only is DOA. The iPod Classic allows access to photos, videos, and since the beginning, text files, contacts and schedules, and games. It also currently provides cover flow for music selection and voice dictation. All of these features are better offered in the interface of the iPod Touch, not the kludgy interface Jobs implemented on the original iPod in order to have these non-music focused features on the iPod, which he clearly thought were important enough to include despite the UI compromises required to use them.
And of course it's speculation. Just like saying he would have never killed it if he hadn't died is pure speculation. At least I've presented an argument that actually supports mine.
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This click wheel thing is a strawman argument, IMO. No one should be playing with a click wheel on some iPod when driving (you may be able to turn the click wheel, but you can't read what's on the screen without looking). You should be using Bluetooth with steering wheel controls and preferably set to a playlist with random play on. Anything else is unsafe.
I use a USB stick in my Subaru 99% of the time. The display near the windshield shows the folder and artist and song and I put it on random with a given folder and have steering wheel controls. I can also access my phone via Bluetooth using the same controls (while it stays in my pocket). But seeing as the songs are largely duplicates, there's no point wearing down the phone battery when the USB stick in the arm rest is just fine.
I use a USB stick in my Subaru 99% of the time. The display near the windshield shows the folder and artist and song and I put it on random with a given folder and have steering wheel controls. I can also access my phone via Bluetooth using the same controls (while it stays in my pocket). But seeing as the songs are largely duplicates, there's no point wearing down the phone battery when the USB stick in the arm rest is just fine.