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What standard of design should The New Old Web, or Web 1.1, ideally adhere to?

  • < HTML4, CSS2, no JS, no embedded media (Closer to 90's Web)

    Votes: 16 17.4%
  • =< HTML4, CSS2, frugal JS, frugally embedded media (Closer to Early 2000's Web)

    Votes: 72 78.3%
  • Something else (Post an alternative)

    Votes: 4 4.3%

  • Total voters
    92
I feel the current changes to the web makes this thread very relevant, would anyone else be interested in reviving this thread? I'll try to find new sites to add on.
[EDIT] I'll start here. Iteroni has died, and this Invidious instance Nadeko Invidious runs well on Aquafox and my Kai Os phone.
I do enjoy that Invidious instance as well! Great to post it and get the word out.
If we are looking for sites that work on Aquafox, this thread might be worth reviving: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/websites-compatible-with-tenfourfox-interwebppc.2391449/
xcancel.com is an example of a site that works on Aquafox, but isn't really old web.

Is an excellent Wayback Machine frontend for HTML 4 compliant browsers.
 
I do enjoy that Invidious instance as well! Great to post it and get the word out.
If we are looking for sites that work on Aquafox, this thread might be worth reviving: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/websites-compatible-with-tenfourfox-interwebppc.2391449/
xcancel.com is an example of a site that works on Aquafox, but isn't really old web.

Is an excellent Wayback Machine frontend for HTML 4 compliant browsers.
Thank you for this. Can't wait to check this out tonight!

In the spirit of the thread, feel free to add our local group's site (http://abqretrocomputers.com) to any links page/aggregator/postings you like.
 
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I've been working on this, but unfortunately it's probably not Web 1.1 compliant. Besides hosting on NeoCities, it probably needs javascript to make the sidebars a template so I don't need to update them one by one before I let it go live. Still, I'm happy with the actual design of it and the graphics, all of which I did by hand (more or less, the Ultra 64 was a stock photo I edited heavily but besides that).​
 
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I've been working on this, but unfortunately it's probably not Web 1.1 compliant. Besides hosting on NeoCities, it probably needs javascript to make the sidebars a template so I don't need to update them one by one before I let it go live. Still, I'm happy with the actual design of it and the graphics, all of which I did by hand (more or less, the Ultra 64 was a stock photo I edited heavily but besides that).​
This looks wonderful! Even with the JS + Neocities TLS issues, it still would probably run great on TenFourFox
 
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I ended up paying for hosting, so now it's using plain old php and has an http version, so should render in IE 5 and Classilla, though not Netscape 4. The base page was made in SeaMonkey Composer which is kind of nasty when it comes to the auto-generated HTML but it works. I also did a lot more rearranging and fixing up so it doesn't have that annoying gap on the sidebar and the pages aren't going to be a nightmare to keep up to date. It's mostly empty right now but I'm gonna work on getting it filled out with some articles tomorrow, for now if one of you can test it out in OS 9 that'd be appreciated:
 
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I ended up paying for hosting, so now it's using plain old php and has an http version, so should render in IE 5 and Classilla, though not Netscape 4. The base page was made in SeaMonkey Composer which is kind of nasty when it comes to the auto-generated HTML but it works. I also did a lot more rearranging and fixing up so it doesn't have that annoying gap on the sidebar and the pages aren't going to be a nightmare to keep up to date. It's mostly empty right now but I'm gonna work on getting it filled out with some articles tomorrow, for now if one of you can test it out in OS 9 that'd be appreciated:
Tested on a 1.6GHz-upgraded Cube, OS 9.2.2 @ 1024x768:

Classilla: encryption warning; sidebar padding wonky

Internet Explorer 5: sidebar padding wonky

Communicator 4.77: main page content loads perfectly, large spaces under the sidebars

All internal links are https and cannot be perused.
 
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I've been working on this, but unfortunately it's probably not Web 1.1 compliant. Besides hosting on NeoCities, it probably needs javascript to make the sidebars a template so I don't need to update them one by one before I let it go live. Still, I'm happy with the actual design of it and the graphics, all of which I did by hand (more or less, the Ultra 64 was a stock photo I edited heavily but besides that).​
Your site looks pretty awesome. I dont have anything older at the moment to fire up and have a look but on my a1117 PMG5+Powerfox beta it resolves perfectly.
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I built my site back in 2024. It isn't web1.1 compliant either - doesn't look nearly as cool as yours. I use free static webhosting at Neocities since it is free and I used zonelets static blog to set up a static blog. Since my neocities is their free static option, they wont let me host a forum on it so I leveraged the free unlimited forums at createaforum . I also have some embedded vids that is very retro mac unfriendly. At some point, I'll probably put a page with links in front of the vids page since for old machines it takes almost forever for the page to load haha - havent exactly figured that out but works reasonably well on my early intel macs. I'm no html wizard but I think my site uses html v4 and a bit of js for the blog.

Home of All the Things

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Thanks for the tests, I'll work on getting better compliance. Good to know it does at least load in most browsers, though!
 
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