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malofx

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Basically you used someone as a tripod and remote release.

Pretty much.
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Fake because you didn’t get it right in camera, or fake because you couldn’t get it to look right in post? I have no issues fixing stuff like that if you can make it look realistic.

You have a point, I should do the same.
 
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deep diver

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Besides who cares if it is fake. People do composites all the time.

This has been an interesting discussion. I'm having a problem with the whole idea of "fake.". Art is made in many different ways. Is there really a difference between adding, taking away, changing some aspect of what's there, making something that was never there, etc? Isn't that part of the very nature of the creative process? Isn't that what the word "creative" means?
 
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mollyc

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This has been an interesting discussion. I'm having a problem with the whole idea of "fake.". Art is made in many different ways. Is there really a difference between adding, taking away, changing some aspect of what's there, making something that was never there, etc? Isn't that part of the very nature of the creative process? Isn't that what the word "creative" means?

Yes, well that is why I was originally trying to determine what @malofx meant by "fake" in his original post. If it's just extending the canvas and cloning in feet so that it looks realistic, I don't consider that fake at all, especially given that someone else was in charge of pushing the button, but if he had been in front of the camera, rather than the subject, it would have been "right" in camera. However, if he really just can't get it to look right post and it's a hack job of cloning, then I can see where the term "fake" might be appropriate in that it doesn't look realistic. In this context "fake" can mean very different things. I clone stuff in and out of photos all the time, if, for whatever reason I couldn't get my vision right in camera.

At any rate, here is my entry for the week. A real mirror, and a mirror-like surface, for two times the fun.

FB_October_01_2017_001.jpg
 

deep diver

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Yes, well that is why I was originally trying to determine what @malofx meant by "fake" in his original post. If it's just extending the canvas and cloning in feet so that it looks realistic, I don't consider that fake at all, especially given that someone else was in charge of pushing the button, but if he had been in front of the camera, rather than the subject, it would have been "right" in camera. However, if he really just can't get it to look right post and it's a hack job of cloning, then I can see where the term "fake" might be appropriate in that it doesn't look realistic. In this context "fake" can mean very different things. I clone stuff in and out of photos all the time, if, for whatever reason I couldn't get my vision right in camera.

At any rate, here is my entry for the week. A real mirror, and a mirror-like surface, for two times the fun.

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I completely agree. I think the only "fake" is when someone forges, tries to pass off someone else's work as their own, etc. I agree that there is nothing fake about malofx' image.... with or without feet. I wonder if it would be more appropriate for us to change the vocabulary in this discussion from "fake" to "not from the camera", "not original to the image", or some other such thing.

I still want to know where to get one of those self-carrying tripods.
 
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akash.nu

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So here it goes. I wanted to sit this one out because I didn’t have any mirror based shot. Not sure if this will get counted but these orbs are found on the way from the millennium bridge towards St. Paul’s cathedral.

It was a good few years ago when I went out with my mates but gave some editing spin this time around.

Not hoping to be able to compete but the numbers count for something.
 
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malofx

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.......

However, if he really just can't get it to look right post and it's a hack job of cloning, then I can see where the term "fake" might be appropriate in that it doesn't look realistic. In this context "fake" can mean very different things. I clone stuff in and out of photos all the time, if, for whatever reason I couldn't get my vision right in camera.

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I think this is the main reason why, I was having trouble cloning the feet, since the reflection isn't the same color and the proportions aren't identical, I was going to do one foot at a time and gave up.

I do have to agree with everyone's comments, because I have cloned stuff on certain photos, I have also taken stuff out, and I never considered those being fake.

Thank you for pointing those things out.
 
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inkmich

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At any rate, here is my entry for the week. A real mirror, and a mirror-like surface, for two times the fun.

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Oh great @mollyc, I had the same idea to take a picture like this and here you go and take one way better than the one I eventually captured when I finally had a chance to take some pictures this morning. Thanks a lot! :)

I thought there would be no use in posting my picture but that is not exactly the spirit is it.

P1040471 by Lance Randall, on Flickr
 

anotherscotsman

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Okay. I got it.

This is the Chicago skyline reflected in the Cloud Gate sculpture (AKA “The Bean") in Millennium Park.

Sorry but the only photos I have that are vaguely mirror-related are of the Bean. I've posted this in POTD before but this is me reflected in the Bean on a rare occasion when no-one else was around (dawn in winter).


The Bean and I revisited 2
by another scotsman, on Flickr
 

Darmok N Jalad

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Great discussion on the subject of "fake." If one were sketching a beautiful building and there was a big ugly cell-phone tower behind it, it would be within "artistic liberty" to omit the ugly tower for the sake of a more appealing result. You could also add to the drawing to make things "as they should be," like if you were a historian trying to propose restoring that building to original condition. I guess with photography it can be a little different, but I think you can still apply the same ideas in some circumstances. It's one thing to add something that doesn't belong, but in this case, the feet belong! Now if he gave himself hooves or something...
 
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