Just tried those (changing GPU card to a different slot and connect both monitors together at the same time), but no luck, still the same issue.
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MP 1,1-5,1 Welcome menu won’t show up after fresh installation on 2006 Mac Pro
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This is a MacPro1,1 (2006 model) -- still correct?
I know that you now have a correctly setup, bootable USB Lion installer.
What I don't know, is what other hardware is installed.
Go back to basics: nothing else attached, except keyboard/mouse, power cord, display (only one) attached, just for this test.
Graphics card in slot 1 (the bottom slot), no other pcie, or any other cards in any other slots.
One pair of RAM sticks, in riser A, in the top two slots.
While you are inside, double-check that the power supply connectors (4), are seated completely.
I never use a front-panel USB port for installing a system - only use a USB port on the back panel for booting/installing. It's just an old habit of mine. Probably not a real issue for you, as you apparently don't have a problem booting to the installer, and installing the system, it's the restart to set up the user. Still correct?
What exact manufacturer and model hard drive are you trying to use? (I have a Seagate 8TB that is incapable of booting a Mac. I can install the system all day long, but it won't actually boot from that 8TB drive, no matter what I do.
I know that you now have a correctly setup, bootable USB Lion installer.
What I don't know, is what other hardware is installed.
Go back to basics: nothing else attached, except keyboard/mouse, power cord, display (only one) attached, just for this test.
Graphics card in slot 1 (the bottom slot), no other pcie, or any other cards in any other slots.
One pair of RAM sticks, in riser A, in the top two slots.
While you are inside, double-check that the power supply connectors (4), are seated completely.
I never use a front-panel USB port for installing a system - only use a USB port on the back panel for booting/installing. It's just an old habit of mine. Probably not a real issue for you, as you apparently don't have a problem booting to the installer, and installing the system, it's the restart to set up the user. Still correct?
What exact manufacturer and model hard drive are you trying to use? (I have a Seagate 8TB that is incapable of booting a Mac. I can install the system all day long, but it won't actually boot from that 8TB drive, no matter what I do.
Yes, it is 2006 model. Other hardware installed is the same as it was before reinstallation except I added a samsung 250GB SSD drive on slot 3. What I suspect is that something might be wrong or incompatible with GPU card currently installed (NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT), I have ordered another GPU (NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT) on its way, and plan to try the new card when it is here. Another thought I have is, is there a way to download the lower version from Apple, like 10.6.8? My initial plan is to install windows 10 on this old desktop, so, it basically need a working Mac OS version running on it first.This is a MacPro1,1 (2006 model) -- still correct?
I know that you now have a correctly setup, bootable USB Lion installer.
What I don't know, is what other hardware is installed.
Go back to basics: nothing else attached, except keyboard/mouse, power cord, display (only one) attached, just for this test.
Graphics card in slot 1 (the bottom slot), no other pcie, or any other cards in any other slots.
One pair of RAM sticks, in riser A, in the top two slots.
While you are inside, double-check that the power supply connectors (4), are seated completely.
I never use a front-panel USB port for installing a system - only use a USB port on the back panel for booting/installing. It's just an old habit of mine. Probably not a real issue for you, as you apparently don't have a problem booting to the installer, and installing the system, it's the restart to set up the user. Still correct?
What exact manufacturer and model hard drive are you trying to use? (I have a Seagate 8TB that is incapable of booting a Mac. I can install the system all day long, but it won't actually boot from that 8TB drive, no matter what I do.
Nothing before Lion is downloadable, unfortunately. If you want 10.6, you will need to purchase a DVD (try eBay). I know some people torrent these things, but I never recommend that because it's impossible to know if the system has been tampered with. You're much better off going with a legitimate install disc.
Also, you don't need macOS to install Windows 10. Make a Windows 10 install DVD using the ISO download from Microsoft and just boot from the DVD. (Don't install from USB; there are problems with Microsoft boot certificates from a USB install in UEFI mode that can actually brick the Mac.) Windows will install just fine from DVD in legacy BIOS mode, as it would on any PC.
There are tools you can use to directly download Boot Camp drivers outside of macOS, so if you only want to run Windows, you can skip installing macOS altogether.
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Thanks for the comment. By the way, how to enter into legacy BIOS mode in order to let system recognize windows OS from DVD?
If you don't insist on having a bootscreen, you can try other PC graphic cards.
I have an AMD HD6670 2GB, another nVidia GTX 680 2GB and both work fine on my MP1,1. (OS X Lion and El Capital), just no boot screen.
When you power on your system and hear the startup chime, hold down the Option key to enter the Startup Manager (aka, "Boot Picker"). Insert the Windows 10 install disc in the optical drive and you should see "Windows" as a boot option. Just click on it and the installer should start. That is all you need to do.
Do I need to format the target hard drive in windows NTFS version first before doing this? Just tried it with window 10 DVD, it does show up the Windows from "option boot-picker", but screen remains black after selecting it though I can hear the spinning sound from DVD rom a bit. Any thoughts?
Usually right after choosing the Windows option, you will see a text prompt to press a key to boot from the disc. If you're not seeing that, try pressing (but do not hold) the space bar or any other key a couple of times immediately after choosing the option in the boot picker.
You should then see the Windows startup screen with the Windows logo and an animated circle of spinning dots below it, and then the installer will load. I have seen the installer take a long time (up to 20 minutes) to load on some systems, but you should see the startup screen while it is loading.
You can partition and format your drive within the Windows installer and should not need to do this beforehand.
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If you want Windows to use the entire drive, the Windows installer will give you the opportunity to delete any existing partitions from the drive and then you can choose the Empty Space as the installation destination. Windows will then automatically partition and format the entire drive for you.
Note: Please be very careful about deleting or formatting partitions if you have data that you don't want to delete on any drive in your system.
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In my test, booting to a Windows 10 installer DVD took nearly 10 minutes to get to the beginning of the installer setup.
I think it will depend on which Win 10 version you have, and how the DVD is setup. In my case, chooseing Windows from the boot picker screen, the screen goes black, then a Windows icon shows briefly (maybe 5 seconds), then the screen goes black, with just a white dash in the top left corner. Just wait, took at least 5 to 10 minutes before anything else happens, then it starts going through the various Windows setup stuff, like entering the Windows activation code (which I never enter, Windows 10 works just fine without activating Windows -- unless you want to customize the appearance. You will need to activate Windows to make appearance changes.
I usually format a potential Windows drive as ExFat (it's usually one of the choices when erasing the drive), and then erase the volume again when you get to the drive setup screen during the Windows setup.
Soba is correct, of course, you can format the drive near the beginning of the Windows setup.
I think it will depend on which Win 10 version you have, and how the DVD is setup. In my case, chooseing Windows from the boot picker screen, the screen goes black, then a Windows icon shows briefly (maybe 5 seconds), then the screen goes black, with just a white dash in the top left corner. Just wait, took at least 5 to 10 minutes before anything else happens, then it starts going through the various Windows setup stuff, like entering the Windows activation code (which I never enter, Windows 10 works just fine without activating Windows -- unless you want to customize the appearance. You will need to activate Windows to make appearance changes.
I usually format a potential Windows drive as ExFat (it's usually one of the choices when erasing the drive), and then erase the volume again when you get to the drive setup screen during the Windows setup.
Soba is correct, of course, you can format the drive near the beginning of the Windows setup.
Good luck. It's possible that the problem you were seeing when trying to install Lion is also preventing the Windows installer from loading.
Try again when your new graphics card arrives and see if that makes any difference.
If you have any PCIe cards installed in addition to your graphics card, or if you have extra hard drives installed that you don't need for the installation, you might try removing those temporarily to see if the system will behave better.
The Mac that I was using didn't boot very good to Windows, either, until I tried a couple of resets.
Try an NVRAM reset (restart holding Opt-Cmd-P-R). You should hear the boot chime. Keep holding the same 4 keys until you hear the chime 2 more times - then hold only the Option -- to get the boot-picker screeen. Maybe that will help with the next boot.
I agree with Soba, too... Be sure that your system hardware is as near basic as you can get: 1 drive, one graphics card, no extra cards of any kind, one pair of RAM, one display, etc. Keep it simple for this install -- might help.
Try an NVRAM reset (restart holding Opt-Cmd-P-R). You should hear the boot chime. Keep holding the same 4 keys until you hear the chime 2 more times - then hold only the Option -- to get the boot-picker screeen. Maybe that will help with the next boot.
I agree with Soba, too... Be sure that your system hardware is as near basic as you can get: 1 drive, one graphics card, no extra cards of any kind, one pair of RAM, one display, etc. Keep it simple for this install -- might help.
@DeltaMac, @Soba, hello there, here is the update:
Received the new GPU card and have it installed, everything works fine now. So, it seems the issue is with the old GPU card, no idea why system can have apple chime sound and show images on screen before the "welcome user setup" stage.
But anyway, thanks again for all your comments and help, really really appreciate!
Received the new GPU card and have it installed, everything works fine now. So, it seems the issue is with the old GPU card, no idea why system can have apple chime sound and show images on screen before the "welcome user setup" stage.
But anyway, thanks again for all your comments and help, really really appreciate!
@DeltaMac, @Soba , hello there, here is the update for windows 10 installation:
No luck getting it directly booted from windows 10 dvd, but successfully install windows 7 through boot camp first, then upgraded to windows 10. The problem is that boot camp drivers used is from windows 7, which caused no audio on windows 10. Trying to find boot camp drivers for windows 10 online, but no luck finding one which can be run on Mac Pro 2006 models. Any thoughts where I can find windows 10 boot camp drivers which supports my model? Thanks again!
No luck getting it directly booted from windows 10 dvd, but successfully install windows 7 through boot camp first, then upgraded to windows 10. The problem is that boot camp drivers used is from windows 7, which caused no audio on windows 10. Trying to find boot camp drivers for windows 10 online, but no luck finding one which can be run on Mac Pro 2006 models. Any thoughts where I can find windows 10 boot camp drivers which supports my model? Thanks again!
Unfortunately, I am most familiar with the 2010 Mac Pro, so I do not know if this will work on the 2006, but the Boot Camp drivers do actually work in Windows 10 on the 2010 if you install them manually. Instead of running the main Boot Camp installer (which refuses to run on Windows 10), open the subfolders within the Boot Camp folder and run the individual installers that you need for each device. This works perfectly on the 2010 so I hope it also works on the 2006.
If the installers do not work, you might be able to use Device Manager to point the unsupported device at the .inf files within these subfolders to get the device working.
Alternatively, you might also be able to find drivers by running Windows Update and looking for drivers under Optional Updates.
Let us know if this helps.
Yes, it works with running the files from subfolders there, thank you so much for doing this!
You're welcome! Even after installing the Boot Camp drivers, you might be able to find newer drivers through Apple Software Update and Windows Update (under Optional Updates), so be sure to run these, as well. Hopefully they do not break anything.
Sure, will try it. By the way, where to find that “Apple Software Update” option? Is it from boot camp assistant?You're welcome! Even after installing the Boot Camp drivers, you might be able to find newer drivers through Apple Software Update and Windows Update (under Optional Updates), so be sure to run these, as well. Hopefully they do not break anything.
It should be included with the Boot Camp software package, so check the Apple subfolder for the installer. iTunes for Windows might also still include it.
@Soba; @DeltaMac; @Nguyen Duc Hieu, Hello all, just want to check, is there a way to combine those hard drives installed at slot 2/3/4 into one logical drive here? For example, have SSD installed on slot 1 and use it as system drive, install 3 1TB drives on slot 2/3/4, and combine these 3 into one 3TB logical drive? Any possible? Thanks again!
It's actually easy. It will be faster (near 3 time faster)
Create a disk set using Disk Utility on Mac
Use Disk Utility on your Mac to create a RAID set to optimize storage performance and protect your data.
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