Well, @boltjames is ignoring anyone that's not his fan club, or @johngordon, so it's going to get pretty boring. He's ignoring various posts that prove his points as absurd/false/made up/irrelevant. I wonder if his kids are made up, as at the beginning of the thread, they had the same 'amazing' taste in music as him, they only listen to his back catalogue, only to later in the thread only listen to pop crap on the radio...... Maybe he's a bit crazy (since he called another poster drunk, with no consequences, I should be fine making this claim...).
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Well, That Was Quick - Bored Already, Not Going To Keep Apple Music
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Well, @boltjames is ignoring anyone that's not his fan club, or @johngordon, so it's going to get pretty boring. He's ignoring various posts that prove his points as absurd/false/made up/irrelevant. I wonder if his kids are made up, as at the beginning of the thread, they had the same 'amazing' taste in music as him, they only listen to his back catalogue, only to later in the thread only listen to pop crap on the radio...... Maybe he's a bit crazy (since he called another poster drunk, with no consequences, I should be fine making this claim...).
Hey hey!
Another great morning to be in the "stream and only stream everything" future of amazing!
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Apart from streaming has an offline only mode. Funny how you ignore that fact. If you're having a party at home and you you get a power cut, this is no different. As multiple people have stated, streaming is not for everyone, that's not the issue in this thread. It's @boltjames increasingly abusrd posts that are based in fantasy land....
Not only that, but I just checked the Top 20 songs listed on iTunes...not even close to what dedicated Weezer fans would consider their best output. For one thing, there's only one song from Pinkerton in the entire list, which is widely regarded by both casual and die hard fans as their best album, next to blue.
In fact, the two curated Playlists under the "For You" section "Intro to Weezer" and "Weezer: Deep Cuts" do a much, much better job of giving you a look at the best of their output, both the popular and the deep cuts.
So BJ, your whole argument that the iTunes Music Store or iTunes Radio is "just as good at discovery" kind of falls apart. It may be good enough FOR YOU, someone who is clearly a casual music listener, but it is not good enough for EVERYONE, a fact that you seem to be incapable of comprehending, because evidently the whole world revolves around you and your terrible taste.
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Except Apple will have 50 million - 100 million paying music subscribers by the end of the year.
When Internet goes down, those "streaming is evetything" ***** could go back to sleep.Hey hey!
Another great morning to be in the "stream and only stream everything" future of amazing!
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Offline storage will never disappear!
I agree with most of your posts, but this is a VERY generous estimate. I know it's anecdotal evidence, but the only other person I know IRL who is even USING it right now was a Beats subscriber before. All of my friends who are fine with Pandora or free Spotify are continuing to use those services, and aren't even bothering to try Apple Music free for 90 days.
I can see them taking a bite from Spotify's existing paid subscriber base, but I can't see them surpassing it to the tune of 5x as many paid subscribers in a matter of months.
Some of those people grew up and realized have a stolen music collection is not all that so they happily will pay $10 a month. Again your arguments lay on the foundation of stealing and copyright infringement. Your position is absurd, your analysis is absurd.
If you can't afford $10 a month for streaming that is fine but stop coming up with all these illogical arguments just to hide that simple reality.
Well it will be the largest paid streaming service in October then from there will grow. 50 million by the end of the year is a fairly conservative estimate.
So we know you stole most of your music, can't afford $10 a month for streaming and don't value your own time enough to pay a small pittance to not have it wasted by commercials.
Nobody who is a music enthusiast of even the most casual sort regularly listens to fm radio.
So we have boiled down your issues with music that you can't afford to spend money in any way shape or form on music. That doesn't mean you have to hate on those who might spend a few bucks a month on a much improved experience. All the considerable drawbacks, inconveniences and more importantly time wastes YOU endure to consume music can be evaporated by others for $10 a month. I get that is a lot for you so you walk along the road of what is free or what you can steal.
However a huge number of people can afford a pretty small sum every month not to waste thst time and energy and to have a clear conscious because they are not stealing music.
Your comparison is bogus because you don't spend money on music. You stole all your music between 1996-2000 and so did everyone else.
So your match up doesn't work because you don't actually buy any music so you never get the on demand portion. If you bought the music it would cost you much more than a streaming subscription.
I know others have asked before but it does seem like it's time to **** fish a thread started by a guy who stole all his music and goes on to claim streaming isn't worth it.
Being the largest paid service would put them at around 21 million subscribers. Your "conservative" estimate puts them at double that. I just don't see it. I would love to be wrong, but my estimate is much, much, more conservative than yours. Spotify has had upwards of a decade to amass 20 million paid subscribers.
They were popular enough to make it into Windows 95
Please don't let this discussion die, by the way, it's highly entertaining to read.
As long as there are people foolish enough to enjoy Apple Music I'll be here to tell them they're wrong.
BJ
They never hit my radar much until a few years ago, not sure why, could be my 4 kids or my $400,000 a year job, who knows.
My point about them is that I didn't need some sophisticated and expensive streaming service to get their best tracks; iTunes Nation voted, I downloaded their top songs, I have what I need. Of course some deeper cuts were lower on the list, but that would have been for me to take advantage of down the road if I found the first 20 compelling enough (I didn't).
BJ
Okay, now you're just trolling. You have gone back and forth on "its great for these people" to "its horrible for everyone". Move along everyone, nothing to see here. Please stop feeding it. Lock it in a room with Lenny Kravitz's "Fly Away" on repeat until it realizes what its done.
When someone first discovers a band it's usually a single song or a single LP.
With iTunes Music Store, you can pull down the most popular 20 songs across all their singles and LP's, it's much better that way. I did the same thing with Daft Punk, but unlike Weezer I really liked their stuff, went back in for a second-helping and dug down to the top 30. I didn't miss anything significant.
Apple Music's Radio feature is the same as iTunes Radio and it's Offline feature is the same as the Music Store. So the only thing you're referencing as "not good enough" is the concept of the Rental Store whose purpose is apparently to swindle the gullible into spending $120 a year to listen to the worst tracks on the worst albums. Good luck with that.
BJ
Wait, now its 4 kids? Wasn't it 3 before? Also, your 400k a year job leaves you with no time to have heard about a pretty popular band in one of your supposed favorite genres and yet it leaves you with enough free time to tirelessly beat a dead horse in this thread?
You are clearly a troll, I am done feeding you. Enjoy your Lenny Kravitz, and if your kids are actually real I feel very, very sorry for them.
Boom.
And that, my friends, is that. Niche talk about a niche product. If Apple Music wants to be a Big Deal they'd better figure out a different model. Paid streaming is selling sand on the beach. Rent something that is otherwise free. It's brilliant. Like we're all idiots.
BJ
That's the thing, it's not subjective at all.
Apple Music and iTunes are the same thing except one makes you pay in advance to rent a lousy product and the other allows you to pay and own the best product. That's about as black/white as it gets.
BJ
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