Well, That Was Quick - Bored Already, Not Going To Keep Apple Music

[boltjames]

Okay, now you're just trolling. You have gone back and forth on "its great for these people" to "its horrible for everyone". Move along everyone, nothing to see here. Please stop feeding it. Lock it in a room with Lenny Kravitz's "Fly Away" on repeat until it realizes what its done.

It's great for some people. It's highway robbery for everyone else.

Pay $360 a year for access to every type of cereal ever made or pay $1 for just the cereal you want to eat on a given morning. What's the best plan?

BJ

 

[boltjames]

Wait, now its 4 kids? Wasn't it 3 before? Also, your 400k a year job leaves you with no time to have heard about a pretty popular band in one of your supposed favorite genres and yet it leaves you with enough free time to tirelessly beat a dead horse in this thread?

I have 3 kids old enough to enjoy music. The fourth is only 3.

I have time to visit this thread a few times a day between meetings and after dinner. I type fast.

BJ

 

[C DM]

That's the thing, it's not subjective at all.

Apple Music and iTunes are the same thing except one makes you pay in advance to rent a lousy product and the other allows you to pay and own the best product. That's about as black/white as it gets.

BJ

That's the thing, not everyone sees it that way for their situation, which falls under subjective. In the same vein, that's how it works with some people that lease cars and others that buy cars, or some people that lease homes, and others buy them, etc., etc., etc.

 

[blasto2236]

Boom.

And that, my friends, is that. Niche talk about a niche product. If Apple Music wants to be a Big Deal they'd better figure out a different model. Paid streaming is selling sand on the beach. Rent something that is otherwise free. It's brilliant. Like we're all idiots.

BJ

Please do not act like I was helping you prove a point. I was not. I intend to continue paying for the service and do not consider myself an idiot. If you like music nearly as much as you claim to, the service is a steal.

I have 3 kids old enough to enjoy music. The fourth is only 3.

I have time to visit this thread a few times a day between meetings and after dinner. I type fast.

BJ

And wasn't your whole original argument that it costs a lot more than $120 a year in data overages? A quick perusal through your post history shows that you have an unlimited plan with ATT. So, clearly a lie.

That perusal through your post history also shows that you are continuously antagonistic and often post ad nauseam in threads for that sole purpose. I'm not sure how else one defines a troll, but if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck...

Also, I JUST now noticed your signature and feel incredibly stupid for ever thinking you were anything other than a troll.

 

[boltjames]

Please do not act like I was helping you prove a point. I was not. I intend to continue paying for the service and do not consider myself an idiot. If you like music nearly as much as you claim to, the service is a steal.

You helped me, thanks again bro.

And wasn't your whole original argument that it costs a lot more than $120 a year in data overages? A quick perusal through your post history shows that you have an unlimited plan with ATT. So, clearly a lie.

I have an unlimited data plan. My 3 kids do not. I have no need for Apple Music. They might. Thus the issue.

That perusal through your post history also shows that you are continuously antagonistic and often post ad nauseam in threads for that sole purpose. I'm not sure how else one defines a troll, but if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck...

I am not antagonistic. Apple owners are very opinionated. It's our binary nature that makes us this way.

BJ

 

[boltjames]

That's the thing, not everyone sees it that way for their situation, which falls under subjective. In the same vein, that's how it works with some people that lease cars and others that buy cars, or some people that lease homes, and others buy them, etc., etc., etc.

What is subjective is the price one is willing to pay for music. On average, iTunes users spend $12 a year to own. With a subscription, Apple Music users spend $120 a year to rent. That's all that's subjective. How much one is willing to pay. Up to the individual, subjective.

The rest is binary. Black and white. The services are identical other than some naming conventions.

BJ

 

[blasto2236]

I am not antagonistic. Apple owners are very opinionated. It's our binary nature that makes us this way.

You do realize this is the adult equivalent of "I know you are, but what am I?", right?

 

[C DM]

What is subjective is the price one is willing to pay for music. On average, iTunes users spend $12 a year to own. With a subscription, Apple Music users spend $120 a year to rent. That's all that's subjective. How much one is willing to pay. Up to the individual, subjective.

The rest is binary. Black and white. The services are identical other than some naming conventions.

BJ

$12 on what?

 

[Arran]

This thread is supremely entertaining.

And free!

 

[jeffe]

What is subjective is the price one is willing to pay for music. On average, iTunes users spend $12 a year to own. With a subscription, Apple Music users spend $120 a year to rent. That's all that's subjective. How much one is willing to pay. Up to the individual, subjective.

The rest is binary. Black and white. The services are identical other than some naming conventions.

BJ

My experience is that subscription users value the two services differently.

The first service is $12.00 / year and allows unlimited access to 12 new songs for life each year while the other is $120.00 / year but allows access to pretty much all the music someone would want explore and check out, on demand.

We spend more for the second service but we also use and consume the second service a lot more than the first.

 

[Arndroid]

$12 on what?

He does not understand statistics at all. Just ignore his misuse of numbers.

 

[Arndroid]

What is subjective is the price one is willing to pay for music. On average, iTunes users spend $12 a year to own. With a subscription, Apple Music users spend $120 a year to rent. That's all that's subjective. How much one is willing to pay. Up to the individual, subjective.

The rest is binary. Black and white. The services are identical other than some naming conventions.

BJ

And then the people similar to you who just stole their music library and pay nothing and mumble endlessly about the different financial tiers of music consumption.

 

[Maybe rkymark91]

I am not antagonistic. Apple owners are very opinionated. It's our binary nature that makes us this way.

Yes, you are. Even that post shows it. Not all opinionated Apple owners are antagonistic, so again, you're making false sweeping allegations.

What is subjective is the price one is willing to pay for music. On average, iTunes users spend $12 a year to own. With a subscription, Apple Music users spend $120 a year to rent. That's all that's subjective. How much one is willing to pay. Up to the individual, subjective.

The rest is binary. Black and white. The services are identical other than some naming conventions.

BJ

Another post full of holes, sweeping generalisations and false facts.

You obviously have no life, wasting time posting all this made up rubbish. Maybe that trophy wife got fed up of the egomania and left, you cannot use this as a support for your loss... those imaginary 4 kids won't support themselves... also, your $60,000 car won't crash itself whilst you're messing with the music app on your phone whilst driving.... (Just a summary of some of the inane things you've posted in the thread, for those that need a catchup, as well as a taste of your own medicine )

About something that is subjective?

This thread is now clearly always been about his rampant egomania. He starts ignoring anyone that posts things that he cannot deny or that prove him wrong where he cannot squirm his way out of it.

I've seen threads that are not as bad as this head to the wasteland, I don't get why the mods haven't done this already.

$12 on what?

He's using an archaic figure, that's based on US users, averaged out over every iTunes account (including non-US, duplicate accounts, inactive accounts and accounts not used to buy music), as a false fact to try and prove his point.

He's repeatedly ignored the following fact, which is an increasing trend. Or maybe he just doesn't understand increasing trends...

Nielsen Music's end of year data for music consumption in 2014 showed a 54% increase in streaming services with a 60.5% increase for audio services. While digital sales fell 12.5% and physical sales fell 14.9% in 2014.

Also, that paid streaming has doubled over the last year. The only way streaming & paid streaming will stop increasing year on year is if the internet permanantly died....

 

[OllyW]

This thread is supremely entertaining.

And free!

And it's now closed.

The thread has run it's course and there's nothing new being added, the arguments are starting to get personal so it's time to put it to bed before it goes to far and someone gets in trouble.