Free? what happened to your BMW, beach house and designer wife you used to brag about lol?
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The plan pricing hasn’t changed since I took it in 2020. My 12’s cost me $0 when I traded in my X’s and now my 15’s cost me $0 when I traded in my 12’s. Yes I’m committed to AT&T but it’s been perfect for us for 16 years.
Nothing at all, I just find it remarkable that after all these years the carriers are still getting their best customers into the new iPhones they want for free.
nothing is free when it comes to telcos, you'd be paying for them somehow
I do a hybrid approach. Use the phone caseless, but slide it into a leather sleeve when I'm not using it. The sleeve offers great protection when I'm just carrying the phone around but adds no bulk when I'm actually doing something with it. And I agree, the 15 Pro Max looks and feels awesome! I'd hate to keep it covered up.
I've also noticed over the years that if I'm going to drop my iPhone, it won't be while I'm actively using it. It'll be when I'm just carting it around, or maybe manage to somehow knock it off a desk.
The leather sleeve also makes a nice protective resting mat if I happen to be semi-actively using it, like sitting down somewhere and monitoring or waiting for something to happen on the screen.
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If the cost of my service never included the cost of the hardware and it has not increased in four years and I now have two brand new iPhone 15s simply by trading in two used iPhone 12s, the hardware is free.
Then the carrier is probably overcharging you for their services if they can profit off of giving new devices to you. The U.S. market is broken in many ways, but living overseas now I was able to reduce my bill by like 75% by getting a plan that didn't come with a new phone (even before including the installment costs for the device).
I'm fine with that. They deserve to make a profit. That's how the world works. But I don't look at it from the carrier's perspective, only mine.
So if for the last 49 months my monthly bill has been at the same $ per month and for the next 36 months it will remain at the exact same amount, the upgrade to new hardware is costing me $0. I'm paying the same thing this December as I did last December yet I have two new iPhones. So they didn't cost me anything.
Honestly, no good reason. I keep my phones in cases with screen protectors, and can usually sell them and get back a decent amount towards the new phone, so I just do it. I’ve changed up sizes a few times, but this is the first time I’ve ever gone with a pro max. Hopefully this will be the one I keep longer than a year - that’s the plan anyway.
Yep. I pay the same plan price whether I have a new phone or not, and I’m likely not ever switching from ATT (been with them since they were Cellular Wireless and I got my first cell phone in the 90’s - before Cingular even took over). Phone or no phone, I’m paying $30/line for unlimited talk/text/data and 15 gb hotspot. It wouldn’t cost me any more for that line if I traded in a phone and got a free phone.
Similar story here, we're $20/line for unlimited everything including unlimited hotspot and 5G and $10/line for each Apple Watch. So it's $107 for the plan, $120 for 6 iPhones, $20 for 2 Watches, total of $247/mo and $0 for any equipment as we trade in our old phones for new ones at the 36 month point. Remember "new every two"? Well, now it's new every three. And we're good with it.
Enjoy your new Pro Max!
How do you differentiate from the people who buy them as gifts and then get rejected. Or their business and then their IT guy says no. Vs the people who can’t make a decision.
Apple sold 232 million iPhones in 2022. How many people review phones? Besides, some of those reviews generate views and promotes the product. Considering the number of returns compared to overall sales and that Apple sells those returned as refurb almost for full price, I think this is non issue.
I tried several cases years ago and never found one I didn't mind holding and using. But with all the cases out there, there may well be one that I would actually like.
I also had a glass screen protector on my phone back in those days, which I expect I'd feel the need to put on there if I were using a case instead of a sleeve now.
I would definitely say that a plus for cases is that they provide a great way to personalize your phone, and even mix it up throughout the month/week/day as desired (whether for planned activities or just variety).
A case also:
1. Protects the trim in your car from getting scratched.
2. Protects the iPhone to maximize trade in value.
3. Allows for putting keys in the same jacket pocket as the phone.
4. Creates grip especially for cold/wet days.
5. Creates the confidence to skip AppleCare.
You should see how much cars cost here in the USA, junk vehicles with 200K miles plus selling for 7K upwards comical.
there is some gouging, we pay $5AUD here for a watch cellular, 3 x times cheaper.
why aren't you buying the pro's?
Unless you're offering to pay someone else's bill, what does it matter what others pay especially when you're comparing different carriers and markets in different countries? Your posts in this thread are not particularly helpful in any manner. Do you expect everyone to move to Australia based solely on phone bill cost?
That's not to bash Australia, but the options are different there. If you're in the U.S. then you have the same options as everyone else here. Doesn't matter what others pay on another continent, it has zero impact on an individual's local choices.
ditto, and let others pay their phone bill in peace.
Again, I look at this only from the perspective of how much I need to pay out every month. I have been paying out the exact same thing since 2019 despite 6 family members upgrading their iPhones every 3 years. That’s 9 brand new phones since we committed to this particular plan and zero dollars out of pocket after trade-ins. I thought AT&T would get me for $5 or $10 per month to move from my iPhone 12 to iPhone 15 and that did not happen.
Considering how inflation is affecting everything in the United States right now from diapers to luxury cars, I have no complaints.
I don’t like the size of the camera bump on the Pro models. The design aesthetic of an iPhone is very important to me and this doesn’t cut it. And as you probably know the base model 15 has 90% of the performance and features of the 14 Pro so there really isn’t much of an incentive outside of the always on display which is meh.
I was very close this year to getting the Pro but only because of the natural titanium color, not because of features. When Apple dropped the leather case and didn’t have a decent shade of gray to go with natural titanium I just stuck with the standard 15 in black.