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jamezr

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Sounds like you are just making up reasons as the launcher has nothing to do with widgets. Regardless of the launcher you can disable widgets.

So is your issue the launcher or widgets?

Then to add.....a launcher or widgets would not affect the app drawer.
 

MikeyMike01

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Sounds like you are just making up reasons as the launcher has nothing to do with widgets. Regardless of the launcher you can disable widgets.

So is your issue the launcher or widgets?

My issue is that most launchers put widgets front and center, when I just want to get to my apps and be on with it. This should be pretty obvious. :rolleyes:

If you could have a civil conversation about it, I'd prefer that.
 

Moto G

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Run an rsync script to automatically sync ALL my photos and videos from my Moto G to my Ubuntu PC/Mac at the tap of a button, even over 3G. No third party snoopers involved, and no storage allowance cap :D
 

jamezr

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My issue is that most launchers put widgets front and center, when I just want to get to my apps and be on with it. This should be pretty obvious. :rolleyes:

If you could have a civil conversation about it, I'd prefer that.
All launchers....only add the widgets you choose to add. In Android anyway. Can you please give us an example of a launcher that install widgets in the way you are describing? :)
 

khha4113

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My issue is that most launchers put widgets front and center, when I just want to get to my apps and be on with it. This should be pretty obvious. :rolleyes:

If you could have a civil conversation about it, I'd prefer that.

If you're talking about Samsung TouchWiz, LG Home or HTC Sense launchers that put their widgets in home screen by default, you can also easily remove them if you don't like.
 

MikeyMike01

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If you're talking about Samsung TouchWiz, LG Home or HTC Sense launchers that put their widgets in home screen by default, you can also easily remove them if you don't like.

I know, what I'm saying is that I don't want a home screen of 6 blank pages, for population of widgets. All 6 of my current and former Android devices have/had completely blank home screens. It's not very efficient.

I think Google Now could make a great home screen, with some minor adjusting.
 

fredaroony

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My issue is that most launchers put widgets front and center, when I just want to get to my apps and be on with it. This should be pretty obvious. :rolleyes:

If you could have a civil conversation about it, I'd prefer that.

Not true, as I said before you can turn on or off widgets so your issue is a non issue and is pure fabrication.

If you would stop making up stories, I would prefer that.
 

Lloydbm41

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My issue is that most launchers put widgets front and center, when I just want to get to my apps and be on with it. This should be pretty obvious. :rolleyes:

If you could have a civil conversation about it, I'd prefer that.
Some launchers do try to be different with gimmicky setups (Aviate and Z launcher come to mind), but the most popular launchers like Nova and Apex do not. Of course, the option is up to you what you put on your phone. That should be pretty obvious. ;)
 

MikeyMike01

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Not true, as I said before you can turn on or off widgets so your issue is a non issue and is pure fabrication.

If you would stop making up stories, I would prefer that.

I know a hell of a lot more about Android than most people do and I have no idea what you're going on about.

Thanks for being incredibly rude, though.
 

Savor

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This is not a comprehensive list, it's just the software features that matter to me:

* Sharing information between apps. I believe this is going to be improved in IOS8 (3rd party share sheets).

* Choice over which apps get added to homescreen (all apps go to alphabetical app drawer/list; you get to choose what to add as shortcuts to your homescreen which helps a lot with avoiding clutter). I don't think this is something IOS8 is getting.

* Swype keyboards. This is something that IOS8 will get.

* Easy file transfer with computers. With Android you can just plug your phone to a computer and easily transfer files without needing extra software. I expect iOS8 will still require iTunes and a file transfer app installed on your iPhone.

* Widgets. I only use one widget - a weather widget - but find it very useful. Don't know if iOS8 is doing adding widgets.

I also like various hardware benefits of the varied Android device ecosystem.
* Screen sizes
* Price points
* SD card support

Obviously, there are also some downsides of Android though.
Great post.

Especially file transfers. I like the good ol' drag and drop from my PC. Latest iTunes is terrible on my PC with the 97-99% CPU usage. In fairness, I tried many media file programs including DoubleTwist, MediaMonkey, Zune when I had a WP, and Sony's MediaGo. I think iTunes organizes it the best. But with that said, I prefer not relying too much on a program to move or delete files.

I also like sideloading apps, Bluetooth transfer since I'm not always online, and backing up my apps and then restoring back to an older one if the update gets worse. Current iOS doesn't even show your RAM usage. I like what iOS8 is capable of like QuickType which is a ripoff of SwiftKey, changing to 3rd party keyboards, and app extentions. But if Android L can provide underclocking the CPU without root and whatever Project Volta will turn out to be for extending battery life, Android will remain my primary mobile OS for years to come. Some occasional stuttering animation probs, slightly less smoother and less touch response times, high RAM usage, and shorter battery life (5 hr screen time is typical) is my main qualms with Android. But the many reasons you posted can make me overlook them.

Alot of issues with Android like slight stuttering animation and buffering or cache issues are superficial. I need real capability. Not looks. And Android is one of the only mobile OSes that gives me that flexibility like drag & drop files, downloading from the web browser, and sideloading apps.
 

MikeyMike01

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That's your problem right there.



You actually don't know what you're talking about and blaming Android for it.


So instead of making clear whatever it is you're dribbling on about, you're going to be a pompous ass.

I don't know why I bother trying to have a level headed discussion with you.
 

Oohara

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So instead of making clear whatever it is you're dribbling on about, you're going to be a pompous ass.

I don't know why I bother trying to have a level headed discussion with you.

Good one. For anyone new to the thread, here's the post you're being critizised for:

Hmm. One of the bigger reasons I left Android was because I found homescreen widgets repulsive.

Now, I don't give a damn if anyone dislikes Android or even finds it "repulsive", I do too sometimes. But your reason here does seem a tad unfounded. Can you show one single launcher where any widgets on the homescreen cannot be removed?

Again, there are plenty of bad things to say about Android, but being forced to use homescreen widgets simply isn't one of them. And you can put rows of icons on the homescreen to your heart's content if you prefer the iOS app drawer style.
 

MikeyMike01

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What are some things you can do on Android that you can't on iOS?

But your reason here does seem a tad unfounded. Can you show one single launcher where any widgets on the homescreen cannot be removed?


Of course they can be removed. What sort of chucklehead would claim otherwise?
 
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Oohara

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Of course they can be removed. What sort of chucklehead would claim otherwise?

So one of your biggest reasons for leaving a whole OS is a homescreen feature that you don't have to use or even see if you don't want to?
 

MikeyMike01

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What are some things you can do on Android that you can't on iOS?

So one of your biggest reasons for leaving a whole OS is a homescreen feature that you don't have to use or even see if you don't want to?


With or without the widgets, navigating around the home screen to and from apps is slower and more inefficient than I would like.

The root cause of this is that the widgets need a place to live. Even if you remove all the widgets you still have 6 blank pages. Ergo, I don't like widgets.

Long before I ever used iOS, I used MiUI. I found the launcher of that ROM to be a decent compromise between apps and widgets. But most other launchers bury your apps in a drawer. At least many nowadays allow you some level of organization in the drawer.

I don't think this topic really deserves this level of discussion, either. :)
 

fredaroony

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So instead of making clear whatever it is you're dribbling on about, you're going to be a pompous ass.

I don't know why I bother trying to have a level headed discussion with you.

Not sure of what part of you can remove the widgets if you want is not clear to you...
 

Phil A.

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With or without the widgets, navigating around the home screen to and from apps is slower and more inefficient than I would like.

The root cause of this is that the widgets need a place to live. Even if you remove all the widgets you still have 6 blank pages. Ergo, I don't like widgets.

Long before I ever used iOS, I used MiUI. I found the launcher of that ROM to be a decent compromise between apps and widgets. But most other launchers bury your apps in a drawer. At least many nowadays allow you some level of organization in the drawer.

I don't think this topic really deserves this level of discussion, either. :)

I haven't seen an android phone for years that you couldn't remove blank home screens on. You can have a single page with no widgets and a grid of apps and app folders just like iOS if that's what you prefer
 

MikeyMike01

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I haven't seen an android phone for years that you couldn't remove a blank home screen on. You can have a single page with no widgets and a grid of apps and app folders just like iOS if that's what you prefer


That is true, but it's a bit of a pain to manage the shortcuts. Also I'm not overtly in love with the way iOS does it either.
 

Oohara

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With or without the widgets, navigating around the home screen to and from apps is slower and more inefficient than I would like.

The root cause of this is that the widgets need a place to live. Even if you remove all the widgets you still have 6 blank pages. Ergo, I don't like widgets.

Long before I ever used iOS, I used MiUI. I found the launcher of that ROM to be a decent compromise between apps and widgets. But most other launchers bury your apps in a drawer. At least many nowadays allow you some level of organization in the drawer.

I don't think this topic really deserves this level of discussion, either. :)

What are you talking about? You can have one single homescreen page with just rows of icons if you like, exactly like iOS.

I agree that bickering doesn't help the thread, and that's the direction it was starting to take with the "pompous ass" comments etc. What I'm after here though is to dispel what essentially is pure disinformation, which will confuse anyone actually looking for some info in this thread.
 

Lloydbm41

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With or without the widgets, navigating around the home screen to and from apps is slower and more inefficient than I would like.

The root cause of this is that the widgets need a place to live. Even if you remove all the widgets you still have 6 blank pages. Ergo, I don't like widgets.. :)

Wait. What you are describing is Android 2.3 Gingerbread from 3 years ago! Android is nothing like this, even if you use the Google Now launcher. Seriously, what was the last Android device you used? A Samsung S2? Droid Evo?
 

MikeyMike01

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Wait. What you are describing is Android 2.3 Gingerbread from 3 years ago! Android is nothing like this, even if you use the Google Now launcher. Seriously, what was the last Android device you used? A Samsung S2? Droid Evo?


Nexus 7 (2013) and Moto X would be my latest devices.
 

Lloydbm41

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Nexus 7 (2013) and Moto X would be my latest devices.

I have both of those devices, along with the plethora of other Android, Windows and Apple devices that I maintain and use in order to stay current with all 3 OS's. I have no idea what you are using on your home screens, but it ain't stock, or Nova, or Apex. Why do you think so many people are calling you out in this thread?

And for a self-described hater of all things Google, seems ironic you would buy 2 Google designed products that are built to work specifically with Google services (which you have said you avoid at all costs). From the way you have described Android, this seems a bit far fetched to believe.
 

MikeyMike01

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And for a self-described hater of all things Google, seems ironic you would buy 2 Google designed products that are built to work specifically with Google services (which you have said you avoid at all costs). From the way you have described Android, this seems a bit far fetched to believe.

Well, in that case I would kindly direct you to the following image:



Now that this thread has gotten horribly off topic...
 
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soulreaver99

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Well, in that case I would kindly direct you to the following image:

[url=http://i.imgur.com/4tCDTQ4s.png]Image[/URL]

Now that this thread has gotten horrible off topic...

So with all of these Android phones, you haven't figured out how to remove the home screens and widgets?
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