What are U looking for with new TV4k

[kiranmk2]

The problem is they would need a steady stream of them. Just look at VR, while Half-Life: Alyx showed what VR can do on the gaming front it has not been the catalyst that many VR enthusiasts thought it would be. We haven't seen the influx of VR games from big developers that have taken inspiration from HL:A to provide it with the depth of the library to drive the VR userbase forward. We haven't even seen Valve carry on with the push. You need a good library to start with and to expand significantly month-on-month to encourage hardware sales. Apple would need to secure at least one exclusive on one very big game from an established franchise and then a good selection of other games ideally exclusives for at least a window of time and would have to keep cranking them out

TBH they would also probably be better not even calling it AppleTV, it causes too much brand confusion when someone buys the cheap one only to find it can't handle the games

Yes, Apple needs to do what they did with Apple TV+: commit to invest in the platform for at least 5-10 years. In the first few years, Apple TV+ was a bit of a flop: people talked about how little content there was and how there were very few great shows/films. However, Apple kept funding the platform and new content and now, whilst Apple TV+ isn't a full on success, I think it is widely respected for it's content.

The same needs to happen for AAA gaming to "stick" to the Apple ecosystem. It would be all too easy for Apple to see that almost no one is using the Gameporting Toolkit to release Mac versions of games and stop their gaming push again, but if they are serious they need to double down and pay more developers to bring games across.

There are many videos on YouTube showing DirectX 12 games running on Mac using the toolkit and Crossover with decent performance even considering the DirectX-->Metal and x86-->ARM translation layers. I suspect a lot of games would be a solid 30 fps on an M1 at 1080p on low/medium settings if they had native versions.

 

[bluespark]

Hi-res, lossless, bit-perfect audio that I could feed to my external audio system. That's all I want.

 

[OverTheHill]

• full DTS audio support to mitigate one of the few real advantages of Blu Ray over AppleTV. This would also require working DTS into the video file format for AppleTV too but that seems like the easier part.

This is my only wishlist item. That and if needed temp onboard storage for lossless audio buffering to go along with it. But yeah, DT freakin’ S in the files please. So much has been converted to Dolby, but lets get all the film original audio formats going Apple! This is ridiculous at this point. It’s absurd to me that they’ve gone all in on 3D to support Apple Vision, but can’t get lossless audio formats to the mass public.

Something else that might be nice touch is a wireless charging remote that‘s a bit larger with backlighting.

 

[OverTheHill]

I wish Apple would find some way to leverage the Apple TV to act as a home theater controller so I can control my entire system using the Apple remote. For me it would replace a decade old Logitech Harmony system. Unfortunately, Logitech discontinued their Harmony product and there are currently no compelling replacements that are as easy to use for non-techie family members.

YES YES AND YES!

 

[OverTheHill]

Why are some asking for a smaller form factor? Isn't the current model the smallest and lightest of all ATVs?

I’d actually take a bigger box as long as it’s clean looking with an Extra HDMI input for pass through.

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or maybe, just build a gloss black AppleTV sizes to a BD Player with a 4K BD drive in it if you won’t pursue DTS. Toss in a 1 gig SSD for serious gaming and have the best all-in-one product on the market.

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Everyone with a BD collection that also wants some serious gaming on ATV.

 

[turbineseaplane]

What I'd like?
One single model more reasonably priced model and Ethernet included again

What I expect?
Even more models and additional things continually gated behind more expensive versions to drive upsells.

Why?
Tim Cook

 

[subjonas]

I think I’d just want 2 additional input ports (along with ethernet and HDMI output): one for a FaceTime camera, and one for my Mac desktop media library for totally lossless 4k (and up) video and hi res audio. HomePods (set up as TV speakers) and AirPlay would also then need to support hi res audio—otherwise I’d want the ATV to have an audio out port.

On the remote control, I just want to disable the back and home buttons from acting as power on buttons.

 

[subjonas]

Built in soundbar, then we can use HomePod min's as surround sound if we want.

As a separate model, I’d hope. I like my HomePods with stereo separation and don’t need a center speaker.

 

[subjonas]

I'd like to see tvOS become the OS installed on the actual TVs, as Roku and Google already does. I don't like having separate devices, multiple remotes, and managing settings in multiple places.

The big downside to that is you’d have to upgrade the TV display and the ATV “brains” at the same time. I like that I’ve had the same TV for about 7 years which still works perfectly, while I’ve upgraded the ATV a couple times. With my setup, I only have to use the ATV remote 99.9% of the time. For me, that 0.1% inconvenience is a tiny trade off.

 

[subjonas]

Ability to view spatial recordings/photos somehow within the tvOS.

I would think you’d also have to have a 3D TV with glasses.

 

[Icehawk]

I'd love actual profiles on the unit, but that's more a TVOS wish. So my view is different from the view I have setup for the nephew/niece.

 

[theluggage]

Actually, I'm on the verge of giving up on the AppleTV and just using the built in WebOS-based streaming services on my LG TV - plus a Raspberry Pi running Kodi for local media and mucking about with NextPVR. Killer ATV app for me has been MrMC (an App Store friendly fork of Kodi) but that now seems to be abandonware. Hoping that WebOS apps will get slightly longer support than previous smart TV operating systems (*cough* Samsung *cough*) but even so, the Apple TV versions of iPrimeflixifyplayer+ aren't always top banana these days...

The main sticking point is the horrible "smart" remote on the LG TV, and the equally horrible LG UI - but as long as they get the job done and play the media you want to watch it's not like a computer or phone where you're interacting with the UI every second.

Upshot is, I certainly won't be rushing out to *upgrade* my AppleTV any time soon.

Some people have mentioned 8k... unless you're going to build a full-blown home cinema with a 100"+ screen (and have a source of 8K media), 8K is pretty irrelevant. Even on a 51" screen, 4k is "diminishing returns" over upscaled 1080p.

 

[Eric Idle]

Upshot is, I certainly won't be rushing out to *upgrade* my AppleTV any time soon.

Very few people care about Apple TV. Most people have no idea such a device even exists.

 

[SalisburySam]

I think I’d just want 2 additional input ports (along with ethernet and HDMI output): one for a FaceTime camera, and one for my Mac desktop media library for totally lossless 4k (and up) video and hi res audio. HomePods (set up as TV speakers) and AirPlay would also then need to support hi res audio—otherwise I’d want the ATV to have an audio out port.

On the remote control, I just want to disable the back and home buttons from acting as power on buttons.

All this, absolutely desired. HomePods can be set up as paired TV speakers within tvOS but nothing for hi-res audio, and I like the idea of an audio-out port. At least today Siri actually works to turn off the whole thing.

 

[theluggage]

Very few people care about Apple TV. Most people have no idea such a device even exists.

I think the USP for me was always streaming locally stored media from iTunes on a Mac, via Ethernet - but these days everything has Airplay built in & fast WiFi, and Apple are pushing Apple Music streaming, so its becoming irrelevant.

I can't use FaceTime because - even if I had an iPhone - everybody I'd need to call uses Zoom/Teams/Facebook/Google etc.

 

[steve123]

I think I’d just want 2 additional input ports (along with ethernet and HDMI output): one for a FaceTime camera, and one for my Mac desktop media library for totally lossless 4k (and up) video and hi res audio. HomePods (set up as TV speakers) and AirPlay would also then need to support hi res audio—otherwise I’d want the ATV to have an audio out port.

On the remote control, I just want to disable the back and home buttons from acting as power on buttons.

Good suggestions. This got me thinking, it would be great if there were four additional USB C ports to connect left, centre, right and sub Homepod speakers. They would need to be at least USB PD 100W compatible ports. This would require a 500W GaN power supply and likely would not fit the current form factor.

 

[Wakey87433]

The big downside to that is you’d have to upgrade the TV display and the ATV “brains” at the same time. I like that I’ve had the same TV for about 7 years which still works perfectly, while I’ve upgraded the ATV a couple times. With my setup, I only have to use the ATV remote 99.9% of the time. For me, that 0.1% inconvenience is a tiny trade off.

They can absolutely exist side by side just as Google, Amazon and Roku tv's can alongside their streaming device. For those who don't want extra devices, perhaps they want a cleaner setup they could still get into Apple's eco-system without buying a box. Apple get a licence fee and when the TV gets too slow they then have a choice, a new one where they most likely look for another apple powered one or buy an AppleTV. Its win win really

 

[Wakey87433]

Actually, I'm on the verge of giving up on the AppleTV and just using the built in WebOS-based streaming services on my LG TV - plus a Raspberry Pi running Kodi for local media and mucking about with NextPVR. Killer ATV app for me has been MrMC (an App Store friendly fork of Kodi) but that now seems to be abandonware. Hoping that WebOS apps will get slightly longer support than previous smart TV operating systems (*cough* Samsung *cough*) but even so, the Apple TV versions of iPrimeflixifyplayer+ aren't always top banana these days...

The main sticking point is the horrible "smart" remote on the LG TV, and the equally horrible LG UI - but as long as they get the job done and play the media you want to watch it's not like a computer or phone where you're interacting with the UI every second.

Upshot is, I certainly won't be rushing out to *upgrade* my AppleTV any time soon.

Some people have mentioned 8k... unless you're going to build a full-blown home cinema with a 100"+ screen (and have a source of 8K media), 8K is pretty irrelevant. Even on a 51" screen, 4k is "diminishing returns" over upscaled 1080p.

I have to say I have two LG OLED's in the house a C1 and C3 and I do find I use that fairly often. Even on the C1 the OS still runs great and some apps are just better to use from on WebOS than on the AppleTV. You get situations where some apps try and work with Apples design philosophy but it can be a bit clunky trying to combine it with the apps own one and others do everything they can to go against Apple, largely because AppleTV doesn't have enough users to make it seem worthwhile jumping through Apples hoops. And sometimes they lack features, the BBC iPlayer app doesn't allow UHD/HDR because Apple don't support the format the BBC use and there isn't enough of a user base to make it worth implementing an alternative method just for AppleTV. And there can just be some niggles, especially with Audio that just don't exist if you use the WebOS.

I couldn't dump the AppleTV though, there are apps that aren't available on WebOS, especially apps from other regions that I can login to which WebOS needs me to reset the region and lose all my apps from the first region but with multiple region apple accounts I can have all my apps on the AppleTV.

I can't help but feel that I could just use the AppleTV, it's a nicer interface if Apple could just at times get out of their own way. Price the thing at a competitive price to get a market share thus giving app devs more of a reason to want it to have all the features and if perhaps they were less restrictive so could find a middle ground with app devs so they wanted to put in extra dev work

 

[apocalyarts]

A few things come to mind. For example, with regard to Apple Arcade:

- M1 Chip
- Front USB-C to charge a Gamepad

Other things I'd like:

- Front Camera for FaceTime
- Improvements for AirPlay and HomePod setups (It's still wonky)

 

[PAPO]

I've been digging through rumours and stuff, but nothing has alluded to something I'd like to see. removing the figure 8 power plug and replacing it with USB-C. The Apple TV is a glorified phone with the screen removed, there's no reason USB couldn't provide enough power. This could shrink the Apple TV a little (not that it's not small enough already) but for me it would help free up a power plug behind my TV, I could just have a single multi port USB power adaptor for my Apple TV, my Bias lights and maybe to charge controllers or something, IMO it'd be really nice, and kind of a no-brainer, I'm sure some people could also power them from a USB port on their TV as well, but not all TV's provide a lot of power on USB ports unfortunately (hence why my bias lights are not plugged into my TV )

 

[Juicy Box]

I would like a new Apple TV to have the following:

1. A fan
2. Larger storage option
3. Heavier (heavy enough so the weight of the HMDI cable doesn’t move the position of the ATV)

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

Other things I'd like:

- Front Camera for FaceTime

Front camera only works if you position it immediately above or below, CENTER of your screen, pointing forward (to where you would be seated or stand). Anywhere else and what those on the other end see is you at some angle or not see you at all.

Illustrate this for yourself by firing up your iPhone or iPad, start a video recording and prop it up right where the front of your current AppleTV is located, wherever that is (make it a temporarily standing in for this hypothetical built-in camera). Then you get to where you would want to be for FaceTime and pretend to FaceTime chat with someone staring back at "them" on your TV screen. Then, go stop the recording and watch the video... which will show you what "they" see on the other end if your want was actually implemented. If your current AppleTV is right above or below center of screen... it will look fine. Anywhere else and you'll see the problem with this very popular idea.

Many, MANY AppleTV owners position AppleTV well left or right... or well above or below their screen... or HIDE it entirely behind their screen (vertically facing up or down for hypothetical FaceTime camera images of their ceiling or floor)... or have it enclosed inside of a cabinet, etc. Only a relatively few mount it in the 2 spots where a FaceTime camera on the box would be ideal to use for FaceTime.

Better solution: Continuity Camera is a good start. Further evolve that functionality to work with a little, DEDICATED camera one can buy to permanently mount to a TV... perhaps powered by the TV's USB port. Then, there is a FaceTime camera for chatting with grandma even when the iDevices are out of the home.

Solution #2: put at least one NORMAL USB port (back on) AppleTV so that a wired camera like that one could be powered by AppleTV. Then one could hide their AppleTV, put it in cabinet or put it wherever they do now while still getting perfect placement for a FaceTime camera too.

 

[AgeOfSpiracles]

Front camera only works if you position it immediately above or below, CENTER of your screen, pointing forward (to where you would be seated or stand). Anywhere else and what those on the other end see is you at some angle or not see you at all.

Illustrate this for yourself by firing up your iPhone or iPad, start a video recording and prop it up right where the front of your current AppleTV is located, wherever that is (make it a temporarily standing in for this hypothetical built-in camera). Then you get to where you would want to be for FaceTime and pretend to FaceTime chat with someone staring back at "them" on your TV screen. Then, go stop the recording and watch the video... which will show you what "they" see on the other end if your want was actually implemented. If your current AppleTV is right above or below center of screen... it will look fine. Anywhere else and you'll see the problem with this very popular idea.

Many, MANY AppleTV owners position AppleTV well left or right... or well above or below their screen... or HIDE it entirely behind their screen (vertically facing up or down for hypothetical FaceTime camera images of their ceiling or floor)... or have it enclosed inside of a cabinet, etc. Only a relatively few mount it in the 2 spots where a FaceTime camera on the box would be ideal to use for FaceTime.

Better solution: Continuity Camera is a good start. Further evolve that functionality to work with a little, DEDICATED camera one can buy to permanently mount to a TV... perhaps powered by the TV's USB port. Then, there is a FaceTime camera for chatting with grandma even when the iDevices are out of the home.

Solution #2: put at least one NORMAL USB port (back on) AppleTV so that a wired camera like that one could be powered by AppleTV. Then one could hide their AppleTV, put it in cabinet or put it wherever they do now while still getting perfect placement for a FaceTime camera too.

The fact that I considered using an old iPhone as a dedicated continuity camera for FaceTime on ATV is evidence enough for the need of a dedicated device. An H2 powered wireless camera would be a very interesting product.

 

[fibercut]

I would like see the new standard for 8k chips inside of it with the new HDMI and display port updates it! Plus an updated processor !

 

[MBAir2010]

What are U looking for with new TV4k?​

someone to purchase my new 4K tv that sits in a box!

take that back, the tv is incredible since that plays movies and tv shows from the M1 mini !