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sctw

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Any rumors of a new Apple TV box 9/9? Just got a new TV and ideally want to get a new Apple TV. If not will likely get the new Google streaming device when it's released 9/24.
 

Kenny99

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Jan 28, 2018
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I find the Apple TV remote too light and just barely large enough to be conformable.
Would like to see an app that would list programing / movies (in my choice of providers / channels).
 

Reverend Benny

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Apr 28, 2017
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I would like see the new standard for 8k chips inside of it with the new HDMI and display port updates it! Plus an updated processor !
8K would be cool, but guessing we won't see that in the near future (1-2 years) as its fairly CPU/GPU heavy to be able to drive an 8K monitor/TV.

To drive an 8K monitor you need a Mac with at least a M2pro CPU, and I think it will be to costly to put one of those into an Apple TV. But a few years down the road when M2/M3 or the AXX equivalent is "cheaper" its prob going to happen.
 

AgeOfSpiracles

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May 29, 2020
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8K would be cool, but guessing we won't see that in the near future (1-2 years) as its fairly CPU/GPU heavy to be able to drive an 8K monitor/TV.

To drive an 8K monitor you need a Mac with at least a M2pro CPU, and I think it will be to costly to put one of those into an Apple TV. But a few years down the road when M2/M3 or the AXX equivalent is "cheaper" its prob going to happen.
I think it will be even longer than that. 8k TV's won't be in demand for a long time, due to the diminishing value of higher resolutions in the living room (with 20/20 vision sitting 9ft away from a 70" screen, a person can't tell the difference b/t 4k and 8k). It's going to take something next-level like full, actual wall-sized displays or widespread adoption of VR for 8k to even be necessary.
 

rhett7660

macrumors G5
Jan 9, 2008
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My only wish list item is to have proper audio passthrough... I have some high bandwidth FLAC files and I would like to hear them on my system as such. They do it in Mac OSX via HDMI... hoping it comes to AppleTV next!!!!
 

BKDad

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May 16, 2011
213
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A quick scan of the comments on this thread didn't find anybody who wanted better video and audio quality in a new Apple TV of any kind.

Why is that?

A very small number of DIY types have modified their Apple TVs in ways that give better performance. If you search on the web, you can find some of their "recipes". There's even a company that has gone to extremes and has really pushed the performance envelope in a commercial product.

Apple TVX

(Full disclosure: I am not associated with the above company in any way. Nor do I own the product - it's beyond my budget. If I was associated with the company, I'd own one here anyway...)

I was skeptical myself until I saw what can be done. So, I did my own version which is not as sophisticated or advanced as the commercial product, but the difference in performance is really immediately apparent. This shows me that one of the bottlenecks in the system is the basic Apple TV. An 8K version would still be handicapped.

Apple is capable of better. But, in most areas of technology we've been conditioned to just want more features and engineering doodads rather than fundamentally better. Easier to market, I guess.
 

AgeOfSpiracles

macrumors 6502
May 29, 2020
476
856
A quick scan of the comments on this thread didn't find anybody who wanted better video and audio quality in a new Apple TV of any kind.

Why is that?

A very small number of DIY types have modified their Apple TVs in ways that give better performance. If you search on the web, you can find some of their "recipes". There's even a company that has gone to extremes and has really pushed the performance envelope in a commercial product.

Apple TVX

(Full disclosure: I am not associated with the above company in any way. Nor do I own the product - it's beyond my budget. If I was associated with the company, I'd own one here anyway...)

I was skeptical myself until I saw what can be done. So, I did my own version which is not as sophisticated or advanced as the commercial product, but the difference in performance is really immediately apparent. This shows me that one of the bottlenecks in the system is the basic Apple TV. An 8K version would still be handicapped.

Apple is capable of better. But, in most areas of technology we've been conditioned to just want more features and engineering doodads rather than fundamentally better. Easier to market, I guess.
At the risk of revealing my plebeian status, I don't honestly follow the reasoning behind this. I've never personally noticed this problem, nor have I ever heard anyone else voice this concern, so I guess I'll take it as granted that the power supply in ATV is noisy and that noise is measurable on an oscilloscope. What isn't certain is that this is having some measurable impact on the user experience. All the links on that site seem to conclude with something like: According to the designer: “The overall result in picture and sound is startling" but no actual evidence that it actually does anything remotely worth the $2500!!! price tag. Like, even if it did do something, if the fix raises the product cost by 25x, then isn't it obvious why Apple isn't doing it? It really shouldn't need to be said that there's no market for an ATV at a MBP price point. Forgive me, but this seems like an attempt to grift off of the audiophile community.
 
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