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What are you going to do until the 2013 upgrade of the Mac Pro?

I don't really understand the hysteria. If the MacPro is discontinued, fine, but it is not and it is still plenty powerful. The SB Xeons weren't suddeny going to double performance, you know.

The only reason for indignation are the MacPro's prices, yesterday's price drop is a half-hearted one, but they have always been a premium brand and it is unrealistic to expect them to change that now.

Apple set themselves up when they publicly committed to ThB. Now they can't get native support for the LGA2011 boards and they're up ****** creek.

It's kind of funny, actually.

My '09 quad is still powerful enough, and when it slows down I'll bump her up to a W3565 or W3680. If Apple doesn't offer a new MacPro after that, it's back to Windows or (hopefully) Linux. It's the software that matters. What OS it runs on is largely irrelevant these days.
 
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Old sata standard, old pcie standard, old usb standard, old chips, old logic board. It's about a lot more then a CPU bump. If you don't understand the hardware difference then you're probably fine with the current machine. You're right, it's not slow. It's just not at all competitive by today's standards, not even close.

The hysteria is more about the one final insult of putting lipstick on a pig and slapping the 'new' label on the pro. They've seriously underestimated how tech savvy today's high end workstation buyer is.
 
dbit said:
Old sata standard, old pcie standard, old usb standard, old chips, old logic board. It's about a lot more then a CPU bump. If you don't understand the hardware difference then you're probably fine with the current machine. You're right, it's not slow. It's just not at all competitive by today's standards, not even close.

The hysteria is more about the one final insult of putting lipstick on a pig and slapping the 'new' label on the pro. They've seriously underestimated how tech savvy today's high end workstation buyer is.
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I think they know dang well how tech-savy the pro market is.

Like I said, they shot themselves in the foot with Thunderbolt.

They publicly committed to it in a big way, and now there aren't any LGA2011 boards with native ThB support and they look really stupid. Their flagship model is the only machine that does not sport this cutting-edge tech that every other Mac has. But it would be even worse if they released a brand-spanking new MacPro WITHOUT ThB! Either way, they can't win. It's hilarious! :D

I bet they're mighty pissed about it, too. They have to wait until Intel remembers to include ThB in their Xeon lineup. Whahaha, that's what you get for being an Intel preferred development partner!
 
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akadmon said:
Bought a "2012" hex-hore yesterday. Lucky for me, apple.com still had it listed as "new" at that time. I'm on hold with Apple customer service as I'm writing this. Let's see what I can wrench out of them. My options are complaints to BBB, Commerce Dept., all the way to a class action suite. Wish me luck. At the very least, I'm hoping I'll get free Applecare.

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Still on hold. I'm all the way up to tier 3. Things are looking up :)
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:rolleyes: is this for real? that is sad man.
My options are complaints to BBB, Commerce Dept., all the way to a class action suite. Wish me luck. At the very least, I'm hoping I'll get free Applecare.

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akadmon said:
Bought a "2012" hex-hore yesterday. Lucky for me, apple.com still had it listed as "new" at that time. I'm on hold with Apple customer service as I'm writing this. Let's see what I can wrench out of them. My options are complaints to BBB, Commerce Dept., all the way to a class action suite. Wish me luck. At the very least, I'm hoping I'll get free Applecare.

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Still on hold. I'm all the way up to tier 3. Things are looking up :)
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Why would you brag about doing this? Wish you luck? I wish Apple would see this post and cancel your order and ban you from the Apple Store. Annoying.
 
I just saw that Apple sells the old old 4-core for $2200, and the new old 4-core for $2500.

Another option for me would be to get a MacBook Pro with matte display and upgrade it with an SSD (not from Apple, Apple overcharges on SSDs).

From what I remember the 15" MBP is more powerful than the 4-core Mac Pro.

Of course, no desktop graphics card, no hard drive bays.

Then, next year, I'll see if I can buy yet another computer with a really upgraded Mac Pro (and sell the MBP).

Jst0rm said:
2009 4,1 mac pro $1000
24gb of 1333ghz ram = $270
w3680 3.33ghz cpu = $500

A 3.33ghz 6 core 2010 24gb of ram computer for $1770
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Sounds like a good idea.
 
WWDC sealed the deal on me building my own PC. I am disappointed that I won't get the Mac OS that I'm used to, but I still have my (apparently now discontinued) 17" Macbook Pro.

Currently being shipped to me:
CPU: i7 3820 Quadcore 3.6 ghz
GPU: AMD FirePro v5900
MB: Asrock x79 Extreme6/GB
RAM: 32GB
SSD: Crucial 128 GB
HD: Seagate 2TB
Card-reader, Blu-Ray player, keyboard, mouse, Two 24" Dell IPS Monitors, fan controller, etc.

All for just over $2500, I'm not too mad, because I saved a lot of money and will have a faster computer, but I will miss working on OSX.

Bittersweet I guess.
 
I've got two Mac Pros 1.1 and a 8core early 2008, and I have been waiting patiently for the next update. But in all reality a new mac pro would be wonderful i must admit both of my current systems working in tandem have plenty of horse power to get the jobs done.
 
Being completely new to the mac pro market - I think I'm hitting ebay, failing that carrying on as i am until net year. I'm not a pro user by the standards of anyone here. I don't *need* a mac pro, I could live with my mac mini but it's just slow. I've considered iMacs, but i'm not comfortable with 'all in one' devices yet - I've come from twenty years of using PC's.

Had Apple updated, I would of ordered a new bottom of the range pro. (assuming roughly the same prices)

Nox
 
Just bought a 2010 5,1 with 16MB/4x1tb 2.8quad for $1600 incl shipping. New model thru Apple with same specs (slightly higher clock speed) would run me about $3700. I've been wanting to buy a Pro but not going to throw $4k at the same tech I can get for about $1500 used. I figure this will hold me over until the promised 2013 redesign, if it happens.
 
Just hang on

I will just keep going with old hackintosh, it's got another year of life left in it and by then I would have gotten all of my money out of it.
 
Not too sure what to do. Still in semi-shocked mode.

The current Pro is just insulting in too many ways. If it isn't the lack of ports it's the fact I can't even use the Thunderbolt display with it(I'd have to sell and get a older model with less ports on the back - ridiculous), if it isn't the latest Xeon it's the fact they didn't even bother with the graphics card (which for me was a more vital piece of the Pro, as a gamer and what excited me about the Pro in the first place). They've lost a £5-6k sale. Which is what numerous others have been saying (sometimes in vaster quantities).

I've been taking a look at Alienware as a result.

Whilst I love OSX since 07 (top of the line iMac which I replaced with a MBP 17in three months ago) I'll put it the way my whole insides seem to feel over this:

At this point, they don't deserve us waiting any longer then we have already.

Time is valuable. The days you wait won't come back, nor garantee you'll get what you waited for.

The Mac Pro community, as apparent by this very forum over the past year, has waited enough.
 
Stick with it

Having just this week upgraded my G4 Powermac MDD 1Ghz to a 2010 Mini with 8gb RAM via Ebay I am in superfast heaven! I can happily wait til 2013 for a Mac Pro now. If they EOL them I will go for either a 2010 refurb base model and drop in a hex, or get the 2012 hex with staff discount (2200GBP) and max that out.

Here at the office we got the 2.4 2010 8 cores about 6 months ago and they are expected to last the design team another couple of years minimum.
 
I'm going to be keeping my eye on the other Apple products to see if there is any reasonable way to transition (at least temporarily) to a high end TB solution. I'll see what specs the new iMac will have and maybe try to make do with a 4 core unit loaded with ram and fast ssd,s until Apple decides what to do on the MP front. I am anxious to try some of the new technology before 2013. I probably will keep my 2010 for now and maybe even get a bump from a pci SSD card.

As far as windows, I think I'd rather suffer with less hardware than suffer with windows. As far as hacintosh, I looked into it yesterday a bit and was having deja vu of my overclocking, upgrade every few months days, and the steps and uncertainties seemed to time consuming and risky for where I am at today. Nice hobby if you have the time. I don't.
 
The new lineup leaves me wanting

The newly launched Mac products are similar to the iPhone/iPad, Apple is focused on the size/performance/battery life, so the thing they give on is internal storage, which is one of my top priorities.

Given that I have to finally join the Intel-Mac world, I will buy a mid 2011 MBP used, leftover or refurbed and put both an SSD and HD in it. I'll use my trusty old Quad G5 for network storage and wait to see what late 2013 will bring. Not what I wanted to do, but trying to make lemonade. It seems like Apple is OK to wait on my planned $5K spend, so I should be as well.

I think that TB is going to be just too important in the future to make a new investment that doesn't include it.
 
Since my 2008 iMac is getting a bit old i might get a thunderbolt display and hook it up to my 2011 MBA along with a Synology 5 bay NAS filled with some 4tb hdds. Will only cost me 3k Australian all up and i can upgrade my MBA in a few years to a MBP or even a Mac pro if they still exist. I feel for people that need a computer with a modern desktop graphics card ect as the MacPro is the only Apple option, if Apple did refresh the Mac Pro i was going to fork out for my first one but they just lost my money.
 
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I bought my 5, 1 quad MP 6 months ago. It is my first Mac ever, and I love it. I am glad I didn't wait. I am considering installing a w3680 or w3690. Can anybody say that would be worth it for light home movie editing? I probably won't buy another desktop unless next year's MP is incredible...
 
I am doing this:

Dispatched: 3 - 4 Weeks Delivers 12 Jul, 2012 - 18 Jul, 2012

Focal XS Book Speakers
15-inch MacBook Pro with Retina display
2.6GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7
16GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
512GB Flash Storage
No VGA Adapter
Apple Thunderbolt to Enet Adpt
Promise Pegasus R4 4TB (4x1TB) RAID System
AppleCare Protection Plan for 15" and 17" MacBook Pro and 15" MacBook Pro with Retina display - Auto-enroll
Apple Thunderbolt cable (2.0 m)
Brenthaven 15" ProStyle Sleeve II for MacBook Pro
 
theSeb said:
Focal XS Book Speakers
15-inch MacBook Pro with Retina display
2.6GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7
16GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
512GB Flash Storage
No VGA Adapter
Apple Thunderbolt to Enet Adpt
Promise Pegasus R4 4TB (4x1TB) RAID System
AppleCare Protection Plan for 15" and 17" MacBook Pro and 15" MacBook Pro with Retina display - Auto-enroll
Apple Thunderbolt cable (2.0 m)
Brenthaven 15" ProStyle Sleeve II for MacBook Pro
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How much did that cost?
 
I have been accumulating thunderbolt devices while waiting for the refresh. If I had a way to hook my existing dual TBDs to the 2012 Pro I would be okay. I need desktop graphics. Not a Mini. I believe selling the TBDs and purchasing ACDs is unacceptable.

I'm pretty frustrated.
 
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