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mobilehaathi

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Every so often, someone from the wider culture of what is considered by some (though not by all - how American is Hawaii - not least when a certain kid who once answered to the name of Barry Obama spent many - though not all - of his formative years there?) to be a part of the US hits that bittersweet note of heartbreaking authenticity in describing cultural annihilation and destruction.

So, - in reluctant salute to an unwelcome set of occurrences, or an unfortunate series of events, - to borrow a phrase - or title - from a writer (Lemony Snicket) whose work I like a lot - I am listening to the haunting music of the wonderful Hawai'ian artist, composer, singer, songwriter, and musician, - Israel Kamakawiwo'ole; Listen to "Hawai'i '78", and "Somewhere Over The Rainbow/What a Wonderful World" and I defy you, I dare you, not to want to weep.

Iz, what a breathtaking voice. Yes I think I'll queue some of these up.
 

pachyderm

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Every so often, someone from the wider culture of what is considered by some (though not by all - how American is Hawaii?- not least when a certain kid who once answered to the name of Barry Obama spent many - though not all - of his formative years there?) to be a part of the US hits that bittersweet note of heartbreaking authenticity in describing cultural annihilation and destruction.

So, - in reluctant salute to an unwelcome set of occurrences, or an unfortunate series of events, - to borrow a phrase - or title - from a writer (Lemony Snicket) whose work I like a lot - I am listening to the haunting music of the wonderful Hawai'ian artist, composer, singer, songwriter, and musician, - Israel Kamakawiwo'ole; Listen to "Hawai'i '78", and "Somewhere Over The Rainbow/What a Wonderful World" and I defy you, I dare you, not to want to weep.

Doing it as we speak. ;)
 

mobilehaathi

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AppleRobert

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How bout some toe tappin music.

Tom Harrell - Time's Mirror
Dick Hyman - Age of Swing

If you had two paper cups over your ears attached to wires and plugged that into your player the music probably would still sound good. :)
 

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In a coffee shop.

Edit: Incidentally, I'm looking for recommendations for a good CD recording of Tannhauser.

Can't help you there, I'm afraid; I might ask some of my German friends, but, for obvious reasons, Wagner was something of a guilty cultural secret.

Indeed, it was only in the deep dark of the night (over a few bottles of raided Riesling - the friend I am thinking of, still a good friend, was the son of the Professor of German - while his mother was German - and their house, in addition to a superb collection of classical music - almost all Deutsche Grammophon - was also invariably well stocked with good German wine), that one could confess, that there were a few - just a very few, understand - pieces of music by Wagner that one liked and still feel that one had passed the German historical equivalent of the Bechdel test.
 
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arkitect

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Edit: Incidentally, I'm looking for recommendations for a good CD recording of Tannhauser.
This is so strange, as I spent yesterday afternoon listening to Tannhauser. :)

First choice:
Sinopoli conducting, Domingo, Baltsa, Studer. (1989)
Sinopoli coaxes a truly stupendous finale when the magnificent overture theme reprises in a full chorale.
And the rest ain't bad either!

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Second Choice (Sentimental choice, as this is the one I "grew up" with):
Sawallisch, Bayreuth Festival Orchestra (1962)
It is very much in "Die richtige Tradition".

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Can't help you there, I'm afraid; I might ask some of my German friends, but, for obvious reasons, Wagner was something of a guilty cultural secret.
Ah now, this music should never be a guilty cultural secret.
Wagner probably was a reprehensible character, but some (only some) of his music is sublime.
 

mobilehaathi

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Can't help you there, I'm afraid; I might ask some of my German friends, but, for obvious reasons, Wagner was something of a guilty cultural secret.

Indeed, it was only in the deep dark of the night (over a few bottles of raided Riesling - the friend I am thinking of, still a good friend, was the son of the Professor of German - while his mother was German - and their house, in addition to a superb collection of classical music - almost all Deutsche Grammophon - was also invariably well stocked with good German wine), that one could confess, that there were a few - just a very few, understand - pieces of music by Wagner that one liked and still feel that one had passed the German historical equivalent of the Bechdel test.

He had hideous ideas, for sure. But Tannhauser remains really fine music!

This is so strange, as I spent yesterday afternoon listening to Tannhauser. :)

First choice:
Sinopoli conducting, Domingo, Baltsa, Studer. (1989)
Sinopoli coaxes a truly stupendous finale when the magnificent overture theme reprises in a full chorale.
And the rest ain't bad either!

View attachment 684903

Second Choice (Sentimental choice, as this is the one I "grew up" with):
Sawallisch, Bayreuth Festival Orchestra (1962)
It is very much in "Die richtige Tradition".

View attachment 684908
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Ah now, this music should never be a guilty cultural secret.
Wagner probably was a reprehensible character, but some (only some) of his music is sublime.

Thanks! I suspected you might have a recommendation. ;)
 
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macrumors Haswell
Jul 29, 2008
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In a coffee shop.
This is so strange, as I spent yesterday afternoon listening to Tannhauser. :)

First choice:
Sinopoli conducting, Domingo, Baltsa, Studer. (1989)
Sinopoli coaxes a truly stupendous finale when the magnificent overture theme reprises in a full chorale.
And the rest ain't bad either!

View attachment 684903

Second Choice (Sentimental choice, as this is the one I "grew up" with):
Sawallisch, Bayreuth Festival Orchestra (1962)
It is very much in "Die richtige Tradition".

View attachment 684908
[doublepost=1485095963][/doublepost]
Ah now, this music should never be a guilty cultural secret.
Wagner probably was a reprehensible character, but some (only some) of his music is sublime.

Thanks for the recommendations, @arkitect. You certainly know your stuff.

He had hideous ideas, for sure. But Tannhauser remains really fine music!



Thanks! I suspected you might have a recommendation. ;)

Yes, repellant politics, but some sublime music.

Actually, I don't think I have any of his music on CD; we do - somewhere - have a LP, from my father's considerable collection which dates back to the 50s, or 60s, but as it is so long since I have seen (or played) it, I am not sure which version it is.
 

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In a coffee shop.

I don't know whether you ever saw the charming - and wonderful bittersweet British film (movie) "Educating Rita" - but there is a wonderful line "Wouldn't you just die without Mahler?" from the flatmate Trish (played by the wonderful Maureen Lipman) of the eponymous Rita (who was brilliantly played by Julie Walters - playing a working class woman who chooses to go to university as a mature student).
 

mobilehaathi

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The Anthropocene
I don't know whether you ever saw the charming - and wonderful bittersweet British film (movie) "Educating Rita" - but there is a wonderful line "Wouldn't you just die without Mahler?" from the flatmate Trish (played by the wonderful Maureen Lipman) of the eponymous Rita (who was brilliantly played by Julie Walters - playing a working class woman who chooses to go to university as a mature student).
I have not, but I will make a note. I don't watch too many movies, but I'm always on the lookout for good ones.
 
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