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An article I recently read about prog rock led me to investigate this album by Yes, a band I only vaguely know for "Owner of a Lonely Heart". But this is something else:


Completely different from what I normally listen to, but I like it.
I love Prog Rock and Yes. That's one of their greatest albums, but I like the collected Live works of Yessongs even more. It's a great intro to their works. Of course my favourite prog band is Rush. They were greatly influenced by Yes, in many of their incarnations. I was listening to a fan made video this morning for "Red Sector A" and it brought me to tears. Great song and a great job by the video maker. Meant even more to me as my step grandfather was one of the troops who liberated the concentration camps in Germany and he had photos of them.

 

LizKat

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I've spent many years learning to keep my expectations in check, most especially when it comes to recommendations; books, film, and particularly music.* Taste is singular. It's also more contingent on being in the right frame of mind and in an emotional place where the recommendation's characteristics suit the mood.

Within about six notes of popping in the double CD Avant-Dernières Pensées I unlocked my expectations and have enjoyed every minute since. No titles to report since the disc isn't in iTunes. So far just everything. Thanks, @Scepticalscribe. Such splendid stuff I wouldn't need to be in the right frame of mind or mood.

*What about food? That's my most under-developed taste so I don't even register those recommendations.


Completely agree about the Satie.

Food, well... I'll try a lot of things I've seen floated in food threads here. Have to drive a couple hundred miles to get the ingredients sometimes but always a good excuse to visit kin. I confess I've flunked the gourmet coffee test though, will settle for a fumbling button-press to get a cuppa Keurig early on, and then a grind and french press of anything I can round up from the cupboard once I'm awake. Usually it's coffee beans. I did once throw dried black beans in the grinder... fortunately noticed that before completing the experiment. That should have been a 2-Keurig day, apparently.

btw that disc is actually in iTunes at
Today in honor of the Fourth of July, a bunch of American composers, some of them first-gen... And, a notable transplant from elsewhere -- seems only fitting while celebrating the independence of a country of immigrants. So far:

Charles Ives
Piano Sonata #2
Aaron Copland
Three Moods (Embittered, Wistful, Jazzy)
El Salón México
Appalachian Spring
Bela Bartok
Music for Strings, Percussion & Celesta
Peter Lieberson
The Neruda Songs
Philip Glass
Symphony No. 3, for strings


 

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Completely agree about the Satie.

Food, well... I'll try a lot of things I've seen floated in food threads here. Have to drive a couple hundred miles to get the ingredients sometimes but always a good excuse to visit kin. I confess I've flunked the gourmet coffee test though, will settle for a fumbling button-press to get a cuppa Keurig early on, and then a grind and french press of anything I can round up from the cupboard once I'm awake. Usually it's coffee beans. I did once throw dried black beans in the grinder... fortunately noticed that before completing the experiment. That should have been a 2-Keurig day, apparently.

btw that disc is actually in iTunes at
Today in honor of the Fourth of July, a bunch of American composers, some of them first-gen... And, a notable transplant from elsewhere -- seems only fitting while celebrating the independence of a country of immigrants. So far:

Charles Ives
Piano Sonata #2
Aaron Copland
Three Moods (Embittered, Wistful, Jazzy)
El Salón México
Appalachian Spring
Bela Bartok
Music for Strings, Percussion & Celesta
Peter Lieberson
The Neruda Songs
Philip Glass
Symphony No. 3, for strings


Fantastic selection - do enjoy them.
 
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Completely agree about the Satie.

Food, well... I'll try a lot of things I've seen floated in food threads here. Have to drive a couple hundred miles to get the ingredients sometimes but always a good excuse to visit kin. I confess I've flunked the gourmet coffee test though, will settle for a fumbling button-press to get a cuppa Keurig early on, and then a grind and french press of anything I can round up from the cupboard once I'm awake. Usually it's coffee beans. I did once throw dried black beans in the grinder... fortunately noticed that before completing the experiment. That should have been a 2-Keurig day, apparently.

btw that disc is actually in iTunes at

Thanks for the iTunes link. Since this is a Mac site I'm going to indulge in an iTunes irritation, though, that prevents me purchasing from them -- not out of spite, but practicality. It's music-related but not music-related, if you catch my meaning, so most should probably skip this (as if its length would already encourage doing that)...

I'm old school in that when I think of finding artists or authors in a library or bookstore I search by last name. In iTunes, the only way to do that is using the Sort Fields. It took quite a bit of work getting those all filled in so that when searching my iDevices by artist Bob Marley is closer to Ziggy Marley than Bob Dylan.

A little background. Being old fashioned, I keep my iPod Touch and iPad 4 both on iOS 6; mostly because the music app is much cleaner and by the time alternatives were readily available I'd already moved onto an iPhone 6 to sate my "shiny new thing" impulses. Plus, those older devices are completely problem-free. I've had various annoyances with iOS 8, 9 and 10, especially when it comes to audio. As such, I've moved onto third party solutions; Marvis has unparalleled customizability and Cesium does a bang up job of replicating a largely iOS 6 experience.

That said, both of those apps are basically "front ends" for the native app, so if something goes screwy with the main library, then it affects these alternatives as well. Back on iOS 8 I discovered that in a seemingly random fashion, I'd slowly lose consistent alphabetization by artist over a few days. Not all at once. That meant that for a few days, some artists would be sorted Last, First and others First Last. No rhyme or reason. Until... I did notice one pattern: it always happened within a day of purchasing a song on iTunes. When I stopped doing that, the problem disappeared, but with one exception: If I tapped the heart button in Control Center then the same problem would ensue.

Mind you, the problem didn't affect the actual iTunes library or my iOS 6 devices. The only cure was to wipe all the music off the phone and resync. Using a lot of smart playlists to manage my library makes streaming of little interest to me. Also, since my mobile listening is largely earbud (occasionally headphones) or car bluetooth, I transcode my mostly lossless library at pretty low bitrate, squeezing as much of my library on it as I can. Because the transcoding process slows down a resync, my library winds up taking about 12 hours tied to my Mac. I've done it enough times I'm done experimenting.

Speaking with the developer off a music app, we deduced it was an Apple Music issue. I contacted Apple and had a few exchanges with one of the managers for the engineering/coding/whatever team of the music app. iOS 9 still had the issue. Again, I'm retired from testing this issue so I don't know if it persists. Instead, I first look for online purchases at Bandcamp, where I can purchase lossless (sometimes for less than iTunes). If not, then I default to Google Play since they use 320 mp3s. If they don't have something I'll try Amazon, but I find they are neither consistent nor transparent about bitrates. I miss the simplicity of downloading from iTunes and having it sync across devices. These workarounds are tedious, but not aggravating like having to resync an entire library.





As to food, I'm kind'a hopeless. I'm sometimes fine eating plain bread. Nice stuff, but not exactly gourmet. I get overwhelmed by too much texture or flavor. I chalk that up to hypersensitivity of a sort -- and upbringing. I'm also painfully squeamish; I really should be a vegetarian but I'm too daunted by it. Tie these two facts together and I'm blithely boring in my culinary adventurousness. I used to experiment with lots of seasoning, but I've gotten lazy. I eat to stop being hungry. Then I don't eat more. Well, sometimes I do, but I shouldn't. My metabolism ain't getting any faster.
 

LizKat

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Thanks for the iTunes link. Since this is a Mac site I'm going to indulge in an iTunes irritation, though, that prevents me purchasing from them -- not out of spite, but practicality. It's music-related but not music-related, if you catch my meaning, so most should probably skip this (as if its length would already encourage doing that)...

I'm old school in that when I think of finding artists or authors in a library or bookstore I search by last name. In iTunes, the only way to do that is using the Sort Fields. It took quite a bit of work getting those all filled in so that when searching my iDevices by artist Bob Marley is closer to Ziggy Marley than Bob Dylan.

A little background. Being old fashioned, I keep my iPod Touch and iPad 4 both on iOS 6; mostly because the music app is much cleaner and by the time alternatives were readily available I'd already moved onto an iPhone 6 to sate my "shiny new thing" impulses. Plus, those older devices are completely problem-free. I've had various annoyances with iOS 8, 9 and 10, especially when it comes to audio. As such, I've moved onto third party solutions; Marvis has unparalleled customizability and Cesium does a bang up job of replicating a largely iOS 6 experience.

That said, both of those apps are basically "front ends" for the native app, so if something goes screwy with the main library, then it affects these alternatives as well. Back on iOS 8 I discovered that in a seemingly random fashion, I'd slowly lose consistent alphabetization by artist over a few days. Not all at once. That meant that for a few days, some artists would be sorted Last, First and others First Last. No rhyme or reason. Until... I did notice one pattern: it always happened within a day of purchasing a song on iTunes. When I stopped doing that, the problem disappeared, but with one exception: If I tapped the heart button in Control Center then the same problem would ensue.

Mind you, the problem didn't affect the actual iTunes library or my iOS 6 devices. The only cure was to wipe all the music off the phone and resync. Using a lot of smart playlists to manage my library makes streaming of little interest to me. Also, since my mobile listening is largely earbud (occasionally headphones) or car bluetooth, I transcode my mostly lossless library at pretty low bitrate, squeezing as much of my library on it as I can. Because the transcoding process slows down a resync, my library winds up taking about 12 hours tied to my Mac. I've done it enough times I'm done experimenting.

Speaking with the developer off a music app, we deduced it was an Apple Music issue. I contacted Apple and had a few exchanges with one of the managers for the engineering/coding/whatever team of the music app. iOS 9 still had the issue. Again, I'm retired from testing this issue so I don't know if it persists. Instead, I first look for online purchases at Bandcamp, where I can purchase lossless (sometimes for less than iTunes). If not, then I default to Google Play since they use 320 mp3s. If they don't have something I'll try Amazon, but I find they are neither consistent nor transparent about bitrates. I miss the simplicity of downloading from iTunes and having it sync across devices. These workarounds are tedious, but not aggravating like having to resync an entire library.

As to food, I'm kind'a hopeless. I'm sometimes fine eating plain bread. Nice stuff, but not exactly gourmet. I get overwhelmed by too much texture or flavor. I chalk that up to hypersensitivity of a sort -- and upbringing. I'm also painfully squeamish; I really should be a vegetarian but I'm too daunted by it. Tie these two facts together and I'm blithely boring in my culinary adventurousness. I used to experiment with lots of seasoning, but I've gotten lazy. I eat to stop being hungry. Then I don't eat more. Well, sometimes I do, but I shouldn't. My metabolism ain't getting any faster.

I’ve had a lot of strange experiences w/ assorted versions of iTunes and/or the iOS versions too. Every day a new adventure :confused: ;)

I keep multiple iTunes libraries on my main laptop. I don’t buy anything into them. I buy off iTunes into a utility library on a separate laptop and then sneaker-net or Airdrop the files onto my other laptop and then put them into the proper library. Keeps the chaos level down, I think. Maybe.

Anyway I had put a lot of time into my classical library file names and my rock/pop library playlists so the thought of having to do them over is appalling. I keep multiple backups...

As for iOS, I don’t stream except for onto one iPod touch and usually know what I want and so just download whatever it is. Meanwhile how I figured i wanted that piece of music was by having used Apple Music on my laptop and finally decided I also wanted some track or other on the mobile device as well. It’s annoying you can’t sync AM on a mobile device to an iTunes library but I understand why from music owners' POV, just find it irritating.

Anyway. I remember behemoth radio/record-player consoles from my youth, stuff the size of a mini refrigerator, so I try to keep my complaints down to a dull roar when I have ended up able to hold thousands of tracks on devices the size of a pack of cards (or a postage stamp, in the case of the little shuffles that hold a few GB).

But human beings always up the ante, so of course like any other iTunes / iOS user, I have a long list of enhancements or fixes I’d like to see. Periodically I hammer on iTunes and make an updated feedback list for Apple and ship if off to them again. Once in awhile I notice they actually get around to something on my list. Just me and five million other users leaning on them seems to work. Waiting (in vain) for editing multiple playlists at once.

As for current listening fare: Tonight I’ve moved from classical to USA rock and pop and blues, and cranking it up on a Jambox sitting three feet away to overlay the audio from a neighbor’s lightshow down the road. My rock ’n’ roll more or less tops his whatever those things are that sizzle and crackle before they go BOOM! and light up the sky.

My fearless idiot cat (the one who always returns from a cellar patrol with cobwebs on her whiskers, not having missed any opportunities to demo that the cellar cannot pass the white glove test) and who is now almost as deaf as a post and has never minded nearby thunderstorms, is sitting upstairs in a window catching a breeze and maybe watching the fireworks. The other one, who hates t’storms and has always alerted me in advance of the three or four earthquakes we’ve had here in 40 years, is sitting next to me with her head buried under a couch pillow... “this too shall pass”...

Great Lakes Myth Society - Compass Rose Bouquet

The Cars - Heartbeat City

EZ Tea - Goodbye Little Doll

Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experienced

Walter Trout - Deep Trout
 

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Pink Floyd's 'The Piper at the Gates of Dawn'.

Love that track. Great choice.

I’ve had a lot of strange experiences w/ assorted versions of iTunes and/or the iOS versions too. Every day a new adventure :confused: ;)

I keep multiple iTunes libraries on my main laptop. I don’t buy anything into them. I buy off iTunes into a utility library on a separate laptop and then sneaker-net or Airdrop the files onto my other laptop and then put them into the proper library. Keeps the chaos level down, I think. Maybe.

Anyway I had put a lot of time into my classical library file names and my rock/pop library playlists so the thought of having to do them over is appalling. I keep multiple backups...

As for iOS, I don’t stream except for onto one iPod touch and usually know what I want and so just download whatever it is. Meanwhile how I figured i wanted that piece of music was by having used Apple Music on my laptop and finally decided I also wanted some track or other on the mobile device as well. It’s annoying you can’t sync AM on a mobile device to an iTunes library but I understand why from music owners' POV, just find it irritating.

Anyway. I remember behemoth radio/record-player consoles from my youth, stuff the size of a mini refrigerator, so I try to keep my complaints down to a dull roar when I have ended up able to hold thousands of tracks on devices the size of a pack of cards (or a postage stamp, in the case of the little shuffles that hold a few GB).

But human beings always up the ante, so of course like any other iTunes / iOS user, I have a long list of enhancements or fixes I’d like to see. Periodically I hammer on iTunes and make an updated feedback list for Apple and ship if off to them again. Once in awhile I notice they actually get around to something on my list. Just me and five million other users leaning on them seems to work. Waiting (in vain) for editing multiple playlists at once.

As for current listening fare: Tonight I’ve moved from classical to USA rock and pop and blues, and cranking it up on a Jambox sitting three feet away to overlay the audio from a neighbor’s lightshow down the road. My rock ’n’ roll more or less tops his whatever those things are that sizzle and crackle before they go BOOM! and light up the sky.

My fearless idiot cat (the one who always returns from a cellar patrol with cobwebs on her whiskers, not having missed any opportunities to demo that the cellar cannot pass the white glove test) and who is now almost as deaf as a post and has never minded nearby thunderstorms, is sitting upstairs in a window catching a breeze and maybe watching the fireworks. The other one, who hates t’storms and has always alerted me in advance of the three or four earthquakes we’ve had here in 40 years, is sitting next to me with her head buried under a couch pillow... “this too shall pass”...

Great Lakes Myth Society - Compass Rose Bouquet

The Cars - Heartbeat City

EZ Tea - Goodbye Little Doll

Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experienced

Walter Trout - Deep Trout

Some terrific music - I love Heartbeat City by The Cars.
 

LizKat

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Some terrific music - I love Heartbeat City by The Cars.

Me too. Drive is a pretty amazing track. Who hasn't met someone like the persona to whom that one's addresed. And one of my shelter kitties always reminded me of Here She Comes Looking for Love -- no matter how much fancy food, affection, kitty quilts and toys were lavished on her, she couldn't help slipping off to check out what was up at the neighbors on either side my place once in a while... there was a hole the size of the township inside that little cat's psyche. Ric Ocasek so often came up with lyrics that were right on the money.

I'm fond of the first track, Earrings on the Table, in that Walter Trout album. It's not easy for a guy to cop to those feelings -- "the music helps my fear when I'm alone...." It's not a typical Trout track by any means. He's like to burn the house down with some of those tracks but that one opens the album in a reflective state of being. To Begin Again has some nice guitarwork in the latter third, and a few great lines in the lyrics.. "Everyone talks so loudly, but no one has a word to say." I had gifted a bro that album without having heard it, since I knew he was a Trout fan. So it's a hit, and he's wearing it out in his truck and one day picks me up to go someplace. The trip is long so I hear the whole album. At some point I offer up "gee I might have to take this one back" and he just looks at me like "seriously, don't go there." :D So iTunes makes a few bucks after I get back home...
 
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Had my iPhone on shuffle today. It was a random selection.
Robbie Williams
Dido
Snow Patrol
Queen
Michale Jackson
Quite a few others to but I can't recall right now.
 

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Had my iPhone on shuffle today. It was a random selection.
Robbie Williams
Dido
Snow Patrol
Queen
Michale Jackson
Quite a few others to but I can't recall right now.

Well, I am still using my iPod, (and my computer's memory when I am online and in the mood to listen to music) and I rarely use the shuffle function.

But - will admit that Queen are excellent.
 

rhett7660

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Had my iPhone on shuffle today. It was a random selection.
Robbie Williams
Dido
Snow Patrol
Queen
Michale Jackson
Quite a few others to but I can't recall right now.

Which Queen album. Dang it man, taking me back with some of these album artists! Youtube and Amazon music are getting some serious play this morning! Digging through the vaults!

One of my favorite songs from them and the only reason I know of this song was from the movie it was played in!!

 

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Which Queen album. Dang it man, taking me back with some of these album artists! Youtube and Amazon music are getting some serious play this morning! Digging through the vaults!

One of my favorite songs from them and the only reason I know of this song was from the movie it was played in!!

That would be Highlander no doubt!

The album is Greatest Hits 2. Not one song I dislike on it.
 
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One of those movies that seemed to have found a following in the hay day of VHS. To this day, I still dig the movie, but the soundtrack has far surpassed the movie IMHO.

What a great album and agreed. What a great band!
I actually watched it the other week. Some of the fxs were a little dated, and the sequels were all a bit pants, but still a good movie. But agree the sound track makes it.
 
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In a coffee shop.
Which Queen album. Dang it man, taking me back with some of these album artists! Youtube and Amazon music are getting some serious play this morning! Digging through the vaults!

One of my favorite songs from them and the only reason I know of this song was from the movie it was played in!!


Ah, yes.

Highlander.

Loved the series, and thought the soundtrack superb.

That would be Highlander no doubt!

The album is Greatest Hits 2. Not one song I dislike on it.

Now, that is a matter on which we are in complete agreement.

Simply a superb album. It is on my iPod.

One of those movies that seemed to have found a following in the hay day of VHS. To this day, I still dig the movie, but the soundtrack has far surpassed the movie IMHO.

What a great album and agreed. What a great band!

Agreed.

I actually watched it the other week. Some of the fxs were a little dated, and the sequels were all a bit pants, but still a good movie. But agree the sound track makes it.

Really?

Haven't seen it in an age (and must admit that I enjoyed the movie) and - when it was broadcast, I recall the series as one of my guilty pleasures.
 
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