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Spinglish by Henry Beard & Christopher Cert


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I read that book in 8th grade if my memory serves me correctly.
Yeah, you most likely did. The book is often required reading for students. 8th grade seems a little young, as the book is usually read in high school and sometimes only in honors English classes, but hopefully you enjoyed it. I'm only one chapter in so far, so I can't say much.
 

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This morning I started the 6th book in the Honor Harrington series, Honor Among Enemies.
For Captain Honor Harrington, it's sometimes hard to know who the enemy really is. Offered a chance to reclaim her career as an officer of the Royal Manticoran Navy, she is given command of a 'squadron' of jury-rigged merchantmen with crew drawn from the dregs of her service, and ordered to somehow stop the pirates who have taken advantage of the Havenite War to plunder the Star Kingdom's commerce. But the pirates are not all they seem - and neither are some of her 'friends'. For Honor has been carefully chosen for her mission - by two implacable and powerful enemies. The way they see it, either she stops the raiders or the raiders kill her - either way, they win.
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This morning I started the 6th book in the Honor Harrington series, Honor Among Enemies.

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That is a series I keep reminding myself that I must order and start reading.

A number of you (I seem to remember @Huntn in particular) have recommended it highly and I know that you like it a lot, as well. In fact, it seems to be recommended often, and the person who starts reading then seems to rapidly become immersed in the entire series, in sequence, of course.
 
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That is a series I keep reminding myself that I must order and start reading.

A number of you (I seem to remember @Huntn in particular) have recommended it highly and I know that you like it a lot, as well. In fact, it seems to be recommended often, and the person who starts reading then seems to rapidly become immersed in the entire series, in sequence, of course.
The Honor Harrington series is a broad one with several spin-offs into different aspects of the character. I'm still going through the first and main one. Several of the books are Public Domain and can be acquired for free as an ebook for your iPad or Mac here. Below is the order of the books as they were written for the main series of books.

  1. On Basilisk Station (1993)
  2. The Honor of the Queen (1993)
  3. The Short Victorious War (1994)
  4. Field of Dishonor (1994)
  5. Flag in Exile (1995)
  6. Honor Among Enemies (1996)
  7. In Enemy Hands (1997)
  8. Echoes of Honor (1998)
  9. Ashes of Victory (2000)
  10. War of Honor (2002)
  11. At All Costs (2005)
  12. Mission of Honor (2010)
  13. A Rising Thunder (2012)
  14. Shadow of Freedom (2013)
 

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The Honor Harrington series is a broad one with several spin-offs into different aspects of the character. I'm still going through the first and main one. Several of the books are Public Domain and can be acquired for free as an ebook for your iPad or Mac here. Below is the order of the books as they were written for the main series of books.

  1. On Basilisk Station (1993)
  2. The Honor of the Queen (1993)
  3. The Short Victorious War (1994)
  4. Field of Dishonor (1994)
  5. Flag in Exile (1995)
  6. Honor Among Enemies (1996)
  7. In Enemy Hands (1997)
  8. Echoes of Honor (1998)
  9. Ashes of Victory (2000)
  10. War of Honor (2002)
  11. At All Costs (2005)
  12. Mission of Honor (2010)
  13. A Rising Thunder (2012)
  14. Shadow of Freedom (2013)

Thanks a million for taking the time and trouble to write them out (in sequence, no less). I am guessing, or assuming, that - as with Harry Potter - this is one series you may need to read in the correct order, or sequence.
 
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That is a series I keep reminding myself that I must order and start reading.

A number of you (I seem to remember @Huntn in particular) have recommended it highly and I know that you like it a lot, as well. In fact, it seems to be recommended often, and the person who starts reading then seems to rapidly become immersed in the entire series, in sequence, of course.

I predict you won't regret it. Fingers crossed! :)


The Honor Harrington series is a broad one with several spin-offs into different aspects of the character. I'm still going through the first and main one. Several of the books are Public Domain and can be acquired for free as an ebook for your iPad or Mac here. Below is the order of the books as they were written for the main series of books.

  1. On Basilisk Station (1993)
  2. The Honor of the Queen (1993)
  3. The Short Victorious War (1994)
  4. Field of Dishonor (1994)
  5. Flag in Exile (1995)
  6. Honor Among Enemies (1996)
  7. In Enemy Hands (1997)
  8. Echoes of Honor (1998)
  9. Ashes of Victory (2000)
  10. War of Honor (2002)
  11. At All Costs (2005)
  12. Mission of Honor (2010)
  13. A Rising Thunder (2012)
  14. Shadow of Freedom (2013)

I need to get back to these after Dance of Dragons. Read up through Mission of Honor. It's an incredible Honor universe out there. You want trepidation? It's knowing this story is coming to the big screen or it is being planned last I heard. Fearful of the butchering it could suffer. :eek:

From 2014: ComingSoon.net
 
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I need to get back to these after Dance of Dragons. Read up through Mission of Honor! It's an incredible Honor universe. :D
I'm way behind you and @ucfgrad93 in the series. I'm just a slow reader.

I recently bought the volume set of the books A Song of Ice and Fire, but it's a daunting 4000 pages to overcome for me. I bought that after I binge watched Game of Thrones a couple of months ago until I got caught up with this seasons series in episode 2 or 3.

Oh wow! I had no idea there were plans for the big screen for Honor!
 
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Has anybody read The Night Angel Trilogy or The Lightbringer Series by Brent Weeks?
Pretty good reviews for both

I finished The Martian (pretty good book, ended a little abruptly for me), and I'm looking for something new

Regarding the Honor Harrington Series, I read them through #12 Mission of Honor (all that were published at the time)
I liked the series well enough, but I never resumed with the last two books
Seemed to me after 12 books the author was running out of material and began just trying to make the battles and destruction bigger and more epic, but that is just a matter of taste and perception on my part
It is a series worth exploring IMO
 

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I'm way behind you and @ucfgrad93 in the series. I'm just a slow reader.

I recently bought the volume set of the books A Song of Ice and Fire, but it's a daunting 4000 pages to overcome for me. I bought that after I binge watched Game of Thrones a couple of months ago until I got caught up with this seasons series in episode 2 or 3.

Oh wow! I had no idea there were plans for the big screen for Honor!

Reading A Song of Ice and Fire books will be a different experience from the TV show
The characters are very different in many cases and the story lines are totally remade in a number of places

I read the books, and then watched most of the first season before bailing on the TV show
I don't know how the author can really complete the books now without being influenced by the TV episodes, or how he will be able to connect the dots on the divergent story lines. Maybe he shouldn't, but it has just become a mashup mess IMO.
 
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I need to get back to these after Dance of Dragons. Read up through Mission of Honor. It's an incredible Honor universe out there. You want trepidation? It's knowing this story is coming to the big screen or it is being planned last I heard. Fearful of the butchering it could suffer. :eek:

Yes - I had remembered that you were one of the distinguished group who had recommended the Honor Harrington series.

Apart from the obvious successes of a few, rare, adaptations - such as Games of Thrones, or the movies of TLOTR, - I must say that I share your trepidation whenever I hear of plans to make a movie or TV adaptation of a book I had loved.


I'm way behind you and @ucfgrad93 in the series. I'm just a slow reader.

I recently bought the volume set of the books A Song of Ice and Fire, but it's a daunting 4000 pages to overcome for me. I bought that after I binge watched Game of Thrones a couple of months ago until I got caught up with this seasons series in episode 2 or 3.

Oh wow! I had no idea there were plans for the big screen for Honor!

Actually, I wish that G R R Martin would spend more than a chapter at a time with some of his characters; two or three chapters with a POV character would allow for readers to stay with - and become more familiar with that story a bit longer.

Has anybody read The Night Angel Trilogy or The Lightbringer Series by Brent Weeks?
Pretty good reviews for both

I finished The Martian (pretty good book, ended a little abruptly for me), and I'm looking for something new

Regarding the Honor Harrington Series, I read them through #12 Mission of Honor (all that were published at the time)
I liked the series well enough, but I never resumed with the last two books
Seemed to me after 12 books the author was running out of material and began just trying to make the battles and destruction bigger and more epic, but that is just a matter of taste and perception on my part
It is a series worth exploring IMO

No, I haven't read Brent Weeks.

However, I do recommend Scott Lynch highly.
 
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Reading A Song of Ice and Fire books will be a different experience from the TV show
The characters are very different in many cases and the story lines are totally remade in a number of places

I read the books, and then watched most of the first season before bailing on the TV show
I don't know how the author can really complete the books now without being influenced by the TV episodes, or how he will be able to connect the dots on the divergent story lines. Maybe he shouldn't, but it has just become a mashup mess IMO.

Well, I haven't seen the TV adaptations, (although people I know and respect who have loved the books regard them highly).

However, does G R R Martin not have any input into how the story arcs are supposed to develop in the TV series - without giving too much away?

What I mean here is something along the lines of the way that J K Rowling let Alan Rickman (who played Severus Snape) know years in advance what had motivated his character (a fact not revealed until the seventh book) which allowed him to interpret key scenes while filming the movie adaptations which were released years before the final book had been published?
 

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Reading A Song of Ice and Fire books will be a different experience from the TV show
The characters are very different in many cases and the story lines are totally remade in a number of places

I read the books, and then watched most of the first season before bailing on the TV show
I don't know how the author can really complete the books now without being influenced by the TV episodes, or how he will be able to connect the dots on the divergent story lines. Maybe he shouldn't, but it has just become a mashup mess IMO.
I've been silently following the Game of Thrones thread since I started watching the TV show and I've seen many others echo your thoughts about the divergence of character and plot lines between the show and the books.

I think in my case, once I get into the books, I'll still be pleased and interested in the more detailed world that they can bring over a ten episode per season TV show. I bet if I read the books first then watched the show, I'd be disappointed as many others have.

I wonder too how George R.R. Martin will be able to continue the books without influence from the TV show which has now, as I understand it, gone beyond what has been written. Although, he is part of the TV show as well, so he has influence on them too.
 

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I've been silently following the Game of Thrones thread since I started watching the TV show and I've seen many other echo your thoughts about the divergence of character and plot lines between the show and the books.

I think in my case, once I get into the books, I'll still be pleased and interested in the more detailed world that they can bring over a ten episode per season TV show. I bet if I read the books first then watched the show, I'd be disappointed as many others have.

I wonder too how George R.R. Martin will be able to continue the books without influence from the TV show which has now, as I understand it, gone beyond what has been written. Although, he is part of the TV show as well, so he has influence on them too.

With such a franchise, there must be some degree of (unofficial) collaboration.

I would be astounded if the ultimate narrative arc - in terms of character motivation and outcomes - differed significantly from that authored by G R R Martin. If he is an advisor on the TV series, he must have some degree of overall plot input - allowing them latitude in executing the details and some flexibility in actual stories.
 
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With such a franchise, there must be some degree of (unofficial) collaboration.

I would be astounded if the ultimate narrative arc - in terms of character motivation and outcomes - differed significantly from that authored by G R R Martin. If he is an advisor on the TV series, he must have some degree of overall plot input - allowing them latitude in executing the details and some flexibility in actual stories.

Here is what the author has to say... even before the season finale's upheaval > LINK

The 66-year-old American writer has now asked people to stop contacting him about the differences to the show and the books, stating that he is little control over what the creative decisions made by the creators of the HBO fantasy drama.

Yesterday he posted a message on his Live Journal account Not A Blog imploring fans to take their ire concerning the most recent episodes of the programme to fan forums instead of emailing him.

George wrote: "Meanwhile, other wars are breaking out on other fronts, centered around the last few episodes of GAME OF THRONES. It is not my intention to get involved in those, nor to allow them to take over my blog and website, so please stop emailing me about them, or posting off-topic comments here on my Not A Blog.

"I cannot control what anyone else says or does, or make them stop saying or doing it, be it on the fannish or professional fronts. What I can control is what happens in my books, so I am going to return to that chapter I've been writing on THE WINDS OF WINTER now, thank you very much."
 

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I've been silently following the Game of Thrones thread since I started watching the TV show and I've seen many others echo your thoughts about the divergence of character and plot lines between the show and the books.

I think in my case, once I get into the books, I'll still be pleased and interested in the more detailed world that they can bring over a ten episode per season TV show. I bet if I read the books first then watched the show, I'd be disappointed as many others have.

I wonder too how George R.R. Martin will be able to continue the books without influence from the TV show which has now, as I understand it, gone beyond what has been written. Although, he is part of the TV show as well, so he has influence on them too.

That's a good question. I believe he has to stay true to the flow and facts of the books or risk loosing his mind and his readership. I imagine that despite the difference in the narrative between the book and show, he has to arrive at a place of status quo between the two stories. The biggest single issue seems to be Sansa married to Mr. Psycho.
 
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