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Bosch is alright to read out of order. Even the Flynn novels, but there's now a chronological order based on story progression.

I've always wanted to read Daniel Silva's books, but they've been on the backburner for a while. Since 2010, to be exact.
[doublepost=1510183672][/doublepost]There's also Tom Clancy, who'd love what's going down in DC right now if he were still alive. I recall reading in the paper years ago that Clancy was repeatedly visited by federal agents wondering who his source was that was leaking info to him. Or something like that.
 
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Bosch is alright to read out of order. Even the Flynn novels, but there's now a chronological order based on story progression.

I've always wanted to read Daniel Silva's books, but they've been on the backburner for a while. Since 2010, to be exact.
[doublepost=1510183672][/doublepost]There's also Tom Clancy, who'd love what's going down in DC right now if he were still alive. I recall reading in the paper years ago that Clancy was repeatedly visited by federal agents wondering who his source was that was leaking info to him. Or something like that.

I've read all of Connelly (Bosch), Flynn (Rapp) and Silva (Allon) books and loved them all.
Just finished Two Kinds of Truth about 10 minutes ago actually.
I always try to read books in order and really enjoy following a long series of stories.
Would also recommend Deaver's Lincoln Rhyme and Lee Child's Jack Reacher (skip the movies).
For a change, also Craig Johnson's Longmire and C. J. Box's Joe Pickett novels.

I enjoyed the early Clancy very much, Hunt for Red October, Red Storm Rising, Cardinal of the Kremlin, etc. but ultimately lost interest
 

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I've read all of Connelly (Bosch), Flynn (Rapp) and Silva (Allon) books and loved them all.
Just finished Two Kinds of Truth about 10 minutes ago actually.
I always try to read books in order and really enjoy following a long series of stories.
Would also recommend Deaver's Lincoln Rhyme and Lee Child's Jack Reacher (skip the movies).
For a change, also Craig Johnson's Longmire and C. J. Box's Joe Pickett novels.

I enjoyed the early Clancy very much, Hunt for Red October, Red Storm Rising, Cardinal of the Kremlin, etc. but ultimately lost interest
Apologies, I'm seeing this only now. I'll be quite upfront here. I have never read a Connelly novel or Silva's, though I made that clear in the post you quoted. I've only read a few of the late Flynn's novels. I'm not familiar with Deaver, and I've only seen Box's books in the stores. I'll admit I thought Box wrote young adult novels based on the fairly basic covers his books had at the time. Is Johnson's novel series the inspiration for the Longmire show? I met Grant (Child) a few times way back before he became an international name and was more of a semi-household name. Really friendly guy. He sometimes replies with personal responses to emails, otherwise his assistant does it for him. Very down to earth.

It wasn't until right now that I connected Connelly's novels with Bosch, the television show Amazon Studios produces. I'd seen the name of the show in passing but I thought it was just a random police procedural. I generally don't like police shows, serious or comedic, but I did enjoy that Castle show. Very good character dynamic. Though, the story arcs got a bit stupid-silly near the end. I read earlier today that the lead, Nate Fillan signed a contract with ABC to produce another dramedy police procedural. The premise sounds fun.
 

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a different view of the Beat Generation from Holmes who was a close friend of Kerouac
 

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by John Clellon Holmes

a different view of the Beat Generation from Holmes who was a close friend of Kerouac

Let us know how you find it.

I read Jack Kerouac's "On the Road" when I was in my early twenties and thought it both refreshing and extraordinarily interesting. However, I do wonder what re-visitng it would bring.
 

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Let us know how you find it.

I read Jack Kerouac's "On the Road" when I was in my early twenties and thought it both refreshing and extraordinarily interesting. However, I do wonder what re-visitng it would bring.

I'm nearing the end of "GO", I'd read it before and wanted to see what difference a re-read would make. A few years ago I'd come across a copy of "And The Hippos Were Boiled In Their Tanks", which is an early novel co-written by Kerouac and William Burroughs. That lead me into reading other works by the "Beat" authors including Holmes's "Go".

There's a lot of shared biographical material that gets used by the different writers in their fiction. I found Holmes's re-telling of that material to be quite interesting, but I didn't find his actual writing to be particularly inspiring. I'd say "Go" is worth reading if one has an interest in the Beat Generation personalities.

I'd read "On The Road" and several of Kerouac's other books years ago.....in my early twenties. I'd also read some of William Burroughs back then. After recent re-readings I've found that I liked Kerouac's writing more when I was in my twenties. On the other hand, I enjoyed Burroughs's writing more this time around, especially his earlier books.
 

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I'd read "On The Road" and several of Kerouac's other books years ago.....in my early twenties. I'd also read some of William Burroughs back then. After recent re-readings I've found that I liked Kerouac's writing more when I was in my twenties. On the other hand, I enjoyed Burroughs's writing more this time around, especially his earlier books.

Actually, that is why I asked the question.

This is because I have a horrid feeling that Jack Kerouac is not an author that ages well. By this I mean, I doubt that one will derive quite the same immersive and enthralled enjoyment reading it in (for the first, or second time in) middle age, as one did if one came across - and was fascinated by - this work in your early twenties.

This first came to me when I tripped over "The Catcher In The Rye" in my mid twenties; I read the book in one sitting, sitting half way through the night. However, that was also the night I first realised that I was no longer a teenager, as my instinctive reaction was to wish to kick Holden Caulfield in the backside, rather than empathise with him and desire to channel him.

I have little doubt that had I read that book in my mid teens I would have been - quite possibly - enraptured.
 

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Actually, that is why I asked the question.

This is because I have a horrid feeling that Jack Kerouac is not an author that ages well. By this I mean, I doubt that one will derive quite the same immersive and enthralled enjoyment reading it in (for the first, or second time in) middle age, as one did if one came across - and was fascinated by - this work in your early twenties.

This first came to me when I tripped over "The Catcher In The Rye" in my mid twenties; I read the book in one sitting, sitting half way through the night. However, that was also the night I first realised that I was no longer a teenager, as my instinctive reaction was to wish to kick Holden Caulfield in the backside, rather than empathise with him and desire to channel him.

I have little doubt that had I read that book in my mid teens I would have been - quite possibly - enraptured.


yes, I suspect there are a lot of Kerouac's now older readers who would find his writing doesn't speak to them in the same way as it did when they were younger........re-reading old favorites can be risky business :eek:
 

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yes, I suspect there are a lot of Kerouac's now older readers who would find his writing doesn't speak to them in the same way as it did when they were younger........re-reading old favorites can be risky business :eek:

There are some works which remain forever timeless - and speak to you the same way now as they did then, when you first read them.

"Animal Farm" by George Orwell is one such work, - I never tire of its philosophical insight, understanding of politics and power, the flawless - deceptively plain - prose and its sheer narrative brilliance.

But, yes, there are others where I suspect that a re-visiting would deliver a different message than it did at an earlier, different, time in my life.
 
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There are some works which remain forever timeless - and speak to you the same way now as they did then, when you first read them.

"Animal Farm" by George Orwell is one such work, - I never tire of its philosophical insight, understanding of politics and power, the flawless - deceptively plain - prose and its sheer narrative brilliance.

But, yes, there are others where I suspect that a re-visiting would deliver a different message than it did at an earlier, different, time in my life.
I read something about that recently. Haven't got the link on me, but it outlined how certain novels can have an effect later on in life and how some novels cannot replicate those same feelings. JD Salinger's most famous work tends to resonate with adults for life, as does Animal Farm. My favorite book has always been Lord of the Flies.
 

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...."Animal Farm" by George Orwell is one such work, - I never tire of its philosophical insight, understanding of politics and power, the flawless - deceptively plain - prose and its sheer narrative brilliance. ....

....as does Animal Farm. My favorite book has always been Lord of the Flies.

"Animal Farm"and "Lord of the Flies"......both classic reads.....both were on my school's reading list when I was around 12 or 13 (?). I remember re-reading "Animal Farm" in my early twenties, and I'm sure I read "Lord of the Flies" more than once, but probably while still in my teen years. Fond thoughts for both.

Trying to reconstruct memories from my late teens into my twenties, and this was after the "Beat" generation, so while my first pass with Kerouac et al was interesting, it wasn't as absorbing as it might have been if I had been a bit older. They were "interesting".....but there was newer stuff to read; Ken Kesey, Tom Wolfe, Hunter Thompson.....and Kurt Vonnegut was still in vogue
 

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Yes. Flies was probably the only literature I enjoyed during my younger schooling years. I was maybe nine at the time and it was required reading at the school I went to. Wasn't an American school, and I think they teach the book way later. Other required reading were translated Greek and Roman texts, alongside famous books like Dostoevsky a few years later. For a long time, even through university, I disliked reading after having been subjected to so much study when I was younger. When I began working for Uncle Sam for a handful of years, literature was my escape because the flights were rough and long, my field partner would talk non-stop if given the chance and finding English literature in the areas we went to was akin to reaching space on your own. I attribute my dislike for science fiction after sitting on an multi-legged 18 hour trip listening to stuff about Rosewell and DNA extraction. Competent guy, but talked way too much about aliens. Pretty sure I once grabbed a yellow pages out of an airport store and read that, page by page, on another flight out.

After I began reading books bought in the airports, I developed an interest in true crime. I stopped a few years later after making myself uncomfortable reading certain true crime accounts of heinous crimes. I got into mysteries and thrillers then. I like the occasional techno-thriller. Don't like fantasy much either. I like literary, especially if the lesson or theme is good. There's a lot of must-haves I haven't read. I don't know if I'll ever get around to reading them or just keep doing my own thing.

RE my younger years. Lord of the Flies gave some of us lads ideas of taking over the school and throwing our headmaster off the roof. Good thing we didn't.
 

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I saw a Mashable article this morning on the top 10 books from fiction and non-fiction Amazon has sold in the last decade, and I believe his other book was number 9 or 10 on that list for non-fiction.
 
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