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Scepticalscribe

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Continuing on with my love affair with The Guttenburg Project and free e-books, I am reading The Picture of Dorian Gray.

This is a fascinating book, and it must have been positively scandalous when it was published. Well worth the read so far!

That is a great book; there is an amazing literary conceit at its core - but it is an absolutely fascinating, beautifully written, compelling and slightly disturbing book. Wonderful - I hope you enjoy it.
 

twietee

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Continuing on with my love affair with The Guttenburg Project and free e-books, I am reading The Picture of Dorian Gray.

This is a fascinating book, and it must have been positively scandalous when it was published. Well worth the read so far!

That is a great book; there is an amazing literary conceit at its core - but it is an absolutely fascinating, beautifully written, compelling and slightly disturbing book. Wonderful - I hope you enjoy it.

The wonderful Oscar Wilde! My absolute favorite along with Proust and Balzac. And yes, scandalous he was indeed. Unfortunately this led to his early death under rather sad circumstances in exile. Always having a beautiful green flower in his buttonhole.
I can recommend all his plays and if you're interested also his take on socialism and the very private but probably most genuine rant De Profundis.

And the Guttenberg Project is truly amazing, don't know how I stumbled across it, but that could be the sole reason for me to get an e-book.


scepticalscribe, I'll quite envie you reading The Decameron - I just can't finish The Golden Bough, takes me forever. Do you read it in Italian or English?
 

pachyderm

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Continuing on with my love affair with The Guttenburg Project and free e-books, I am reading The Picture of Dorian Gray.

This is a fascinating book, and it must have been positively scandalous when it was published. Well worth the read so far!

That is a great book; there is an amazing literary conceit at its core - but it is an absolutely fascinating, beautifully written, compelling and slightly disturbing book. Wonderful - I hope you enjoy it.

I too have used The Guttenburg Project @work when I forget to bring whatever tome I'm involved in.

That said, The Count of Monte Cristo has been fantastic! I do wish he'd cut back on characters though. There are several now and it is hard to keep up. :eek:
 

Scepticalscribe

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The wonderful Oscar Wilde! My absolute favorite along with Proust and Balzac. And yes, scandalous he was indeed. Unfortunately this led to his early death under rather sad circumstances in exile. Always having a beautiful green flower in his buttonhole.
I can recommend all his plays and if you're interested also his take on socialism and the very private but probably most genuine rant De Profundis.

And the Guttenberg Project is truly amazing, don't know how I stumbled across it, but that could be the sole reason for me to get an e-book.


scepticalscribe, I'll quite envie you reading The Decameron - I just can't finish The Golden Bough, takes me forever. Do you read it in Italian or English?

Re The Decameron, I shall read it in English. My Italian is perfectly adequate for reading recipes, descriptions of wine regions, and pub, restaurant - occasional political - and related casual conversations, but is most certainly not up to meeting The Decameron in its native tongue. (In a later life, or, later in this one, we shall have to address that deficiency).

Re OFOFW, unfortunately, his tragedy partly came about through a catastrophic lapse - nay, lapses - of judgement, and the values of the age, which were hypocritical and grossly unjust, and in Wilde's case, inhumane. The first lapse, naturally, was the fact of his relationship with Bosie, who was a thoroughly unpleasaant piece of work. (Some of Wilde's other lovers, such as Robert Ross, were far finer human beings).

The exceedingly boorish Marquess of Queensberry (the same who devised the Queensberry Rules which govern boxing - who was also the appalling Bosie's father) stormed into Wilde's club and left a calling card for Wilde with the word 'sodomite' (characteristically misspelled as 'somdomite') written on it. Wilde, unfortunately, instead of laughing it off, and quipping about the atrocious manners - and spelling - of the Marquess, instead, sued for libel. And lost. Whereupon he was arrested, charged, and convicted.

I have an exquisite hard-back copy of "The Complete Works of Oscar Wilde" which I bought for myself - as a treat - when I started teaching; I can see it still on my shelves as I write.

His plays are superb - and got better the longer he wrote, the short stories exquisite, and The Ballad of Reading Gaol inspired. And yes, De Profundis, is a magisterial piece of work.

Some of his essays are astonishing - such as what he wrote on socialism, (and his subversive take on Shakespeare's sonnets, which is a delicious, but extremely well-researched piece of academic daring).

Anyway, twietee, I agree completely with you. He is one of my all-time favourite writers, too.

I too have used The Guttenburg Project @work when I forget to bring whatever tome I'm involved in.

That said, The Count of Monte Cristo has been fantastic! I do wish he'd cut back on characters though. There are several now and it is hard to keep up. :eek:

The perils and pit-falls of writing in serial form..........but yes, a thoroughly dashing & enjoyable read.
 

twietee

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Re OFOFW, unfortunately, his tragedy partly came about through a catastrophic lapse - nay, lapses - of judgement, and the values of the age, which were hypocritical and grossly unjust, and in Wilde's case, inhumane. The first lapse, naturally, was the fact of his relationship with Bosie, who was a thoroughly unpleasaant piece of work. (Some of Wilde's other lovers, such as Robert Ross, were far finer human beings).
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I have an exquisite hard-back copy of "The Complete Works of Oscar Wilde" which I bought for myself - as a treat - when I started teaching; I can see it still on my shelves as I write.

I just have the Collins version of The Complete Works. :( Did you read the Life in Letters (? - I think it's called like that, I'm not at home atm) publication? Normally I'm not that interested in stuff like that (please excuse, as an historian that'll sound like blasphemy) but couldn't resist on that one.

re De Profundis: wasn't it even published by R. Ross? I do think so.

By the way: Anybody interested in Wilde and graphics: check out Salomé with the (then) infamous but beautiful drawings of Aubrey Beardsley! One of my favs when it comes to drawings.
 
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millerj123

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I just finished books 5 and 6 of Jack Campbell's "The Lost Fleet" series. I really enjoyed it until the very end. I just didn't like the way he handled it. The crescendo at the end just felt like three separate sputters. Still, they were well worth the read.
 

Scepticalscribe

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I just have the Collins version of The Complete Works. :( Did you read the Life in Letters (? - I think it's called like that, I'm not at home atm) publication? Normally I'm not that interested in stuff like that (please excuse, as an historian that'll sound like blasphemy) but couldn't resist on that one.

re De Profundis: wasn't it even published by R. Ross? I do think so.

By the way: Anybody interested in Wilde and graphics: check out Salomé with the (then) infamous but beautiful drawings of Aubrey Beardsley! One of my favs when it comes to drawings.

Aubrey Beardsley's classic Art Nouveau graphics are timeless. And beautiful.

Yes, as far as I recall, Robert Ross published De Profundis, and I also think he was Wilde's literary executor.

A book well worth reading (and quite heart-breaking in parts) is the tender and moving memoir written by Wilde's younger son, Vyvyan Holland, (who was made to take his mother's maiden name after Wilde's disgrace and imprisonment) , entitled, "Son of Oscar Wilde".
 

twietee

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Aubrey Beardsley's classic Art Nouveau graphics are timeless. And beautiful.

Yes, as far as I recall, Robert Ross published De Profundis, and I also think he was Wilde's literary executor.

A book well worth reading (and quite heart-breaking in parts) is the tender and moving memoir written by Wilde's younger son, Vyvyan Holland, (who was made to take his mother's maiden name after Wilde's disgrace and imprisonment) , entitled, "Son of Oscar Wilde".

Thank you very much for the recommendation, I didn't know about it. And just looked it up: Merlin Holland published A Life in Letters.

For anybody who's wondering about Robert Ross: It's worth mentioning that he published Wilde's De Profundis, which he wrote in prison, as he was one of Wilde's serious affairs and the text basically (and furiously) adresses Wilde's homme fatale 'Bosie'. Who also received the script. Scepticalscribe, please excuse and correct me if I remember incorrectly, some years have passed since I read about it.
 

LizKat

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Alexandra Harney's "The China Price: The True Cost of Chinese Competitive Advantage."

This book may get dated as fast as Chinese workers are continuing to wake up to their options, but it's a good read anyway. Especially if you don't have a clue how so much of the stuff in your house gets contracted, made, shipped, priced, sold, and accounted for.
 

7thson

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I'm halfway through Alexandre Dumas' "The Count Of Monte Cristo and just started "Keynes Hayek: The Clash That Defined Modern Economics." Reading them both on my iphone, which I like, but think that the ipad mini would be the perfect size. Fwiw, I tried a kindle touch and Could Not Stand the screen flashing black every time I turned a page, the refresh as I think it's called. What a huge difference compared to ibooks!
 

spoon man

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I read the first and the second books. Started Mockingjay, read half of the book before I stopped. I loved the first two books but the third one in my opinion wasn't well written. The first two books were fast paced and thrilling. The third was dull and uninteresting. I know I should read the whole book before judging, I tried but I just couldn't. I really hope you like it though ;)

I finished the 1st book whilst I was on holiday, now have just started the 2nd book on Chapter 3 so far its got me hooked :).
 

millerj123

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I finished Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time book 6, The Lord of Chaos. My only real gripe is that at ~1000 pages, these take a fair amount of commitment to complete. The story remains engrossing, if it doesn't always go the way I want it to.
 

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I finished Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time book 6, The Lord of Chaos. My only real gripe is that at ~1000 pages, these take a fair amount of commitment to complete. The story remains engrossing, if it doesn't always go the way I want it to.

I am going to tell you, the next few books are rough and it is sometimes hard to make it through. Mostly crossroads of twilight. But it is worth every minute invested when you get to the last few books. I am on my second read through in anticipation for A Memory of Light, the final book, which comes out in January. Just started The Gathering Storm yesterday, and it is so good...
 

pachyderm

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Scepticalscribe

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Really cool. Read that not too long ago. That's a comic or is it just the cover work?

Great taste, as usual, Pachy - just saw you mentioning the Shins in the other thread! Just what can be done about these Wednesdays?

Yes, I have to agree with you, twietee. Great stuff Pachy, lovely post, aah, yes. Really 'cool' indeed. And yes, great taste, discernment and a very nicely expressed post..... ;)

Bravo, encore....
 

millerj123

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I am going to tell you, the next few books are rough and it is sometimes hard to make it through. Mostly crossroads of twilight. But it is worth every minute invested when you get to the last few books. I am on my second read through in anticipation for A Memory of Light, the final book, which comes out in January. Just started The Gathering Storm yesterday, and it is so good...

That's what I've heard, but it never hurts to get independent confirmation. I've got five or six other books waiting for my time, so it'll probably be a couple of weeks before I continue on.

At least I'm not anxiously awaiting the next installment...:D
 
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