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LadyX

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Currently reading The Snow Child by Eowyn Ivey.


Is Ender's Game any good? I don't know if I should just watch the movie without reading the book or if it's worth the read.
 

Huntn

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Currently reading The Snow Child by Eowyn Ivey.


Is Ender's Game any good? I don't know if I should just watch the movie without reading the book or if it's worth the read.

Some people love the book. I read it and was "ok". I've seen some of the previews for the movie and am wondering how much deviation from the book they have indulged in. In the book virtually the entire story takes place in a combat academy. I'll stream this movie when the time comes.
 

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Please no spoilers!

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I'm up to about Chapter 10 of The Watchmen. This is a really incredible comic/graphic novel, unlike any other comic* I've read, with phenomenal personality profiles and an integrate plot. The only thing that is strange is that these "super heroes" don't seem to have any special powers except for Dr. Manhatten who is set apart from the rest. Take Rorschach for example. I've not seen the movie yet, but saw previews and in the movie he looks like someone who would definitely have super powers, but in the comic (so far), he's just a kick-ass guy.

Without spoilers will these character's powers (if they have them) be revealed as the story progresses?

*The Walking Dead is incredibly good, but it is a different kind of story.

Finished Watchmen. Noted that it won the Hugo award. While it is impressive story telling, probably the most impressive character development I've ever seen in comic format, in the end, the story left me unsatisfied. Previous criticisms apply. For anyone who operates at a higher intellectual level than myself, can you tell me what the point of the comic subplot was (the guy reading the comic at the news stand- the raft of dead people)?

Now it's back to the Walking Dead. :):)
 
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kazmac

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Finished Watchmen. Noted that it won the Hugo award. While it is impressive story telling, probably the most impressive character development I've ever seen in comic format, in the end, the story left me unsatisfied. Previous criticisms apply. For anyone who operates at a higher intellectual level than myself, can you tell me what the point of the comic subplot was (the guy reading the comic at the news stand- the raft of dead people)?

Now it's back to the Walking Dead. :):)

Unfortunately, no. Watchmen left me scratching my head as well. I read that twice Huntn and felt the same way you did. Enjoy the WD.
 

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Unfortunately, no. Watchmen left me scratching my head as well. I read that twice Huntn and felt the same way you did. Enjoy the WD.

I'm going to see if the movie is available for (free) streaming.

I seem to recall it was criticized by Watchmen fans. When I first saw trailers for the movie, and saw Rorschach, I was like "whoa" what can this guy do? Is he human? In fact he has no special powers at all, he's just strange, wears a piece of undulating fabric over his face, has no fear, and knows how to fight. This does not qualify as a super hero. Maybe that was the point?
 
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Ariii

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Reading Across the Street by Simenon. (Probably won't finish it soon since the next couple of weeks are going to be sooo busy :( )
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This is the first book I've read by him and I'm not disappointed.
 

Giuly

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A little something called "Exercises in English Grammar".

I'm sure that you're going to appreciate it, but after you'll have appreciated it, return to your computer and happen to stumble upon one of my posts, it is very likely that you're still going to find bad grammar. :rolleyes:
 
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Tsuchiya

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I'm going to see if the movie is available for (free) streaming.

I seem to recall it was criticized by Watchmen fans. When I first saw trailers for the movie, and saw Rorschach, I was like "whoa" what can this guy do? Is he human? In fact he has no special powers at all, he's just strange, wears a piece of undulating fabric over his face, has no fear, and knows how to fight. This does not qualify as a super hero. Maybe that was the point?

Rorschach was just a vigilante, someone with a strong moral compass who you could measure the other characters against. He is like the opposite of Ozymandias.
 

Scepticalscribe

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1984 by George Orwell. It pretty much foresees our world as a dystopian world accurately, given what the NSA is doing :D

A superb and thought-provoking book.

Aldous Huxley's 'Brave New World' is also worth a look. My personal favourite of all of George Orwell's work is 'Animal Farm' which I think is an utter masterpiece, an outstanding work of political insight and philosophical knowledge written most exquisite, deceptively clear prose imaginable.
 

yjchua95

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A superb and thought-provoking book.

Aldous Huxley's 'Brave New World' is also worth a look. My personal favourite of all of George Orwell's work is 'Animal Farm' which I think is an utter masterpiece, an outstanding work of political insight and philosophical knowledge written most exquisite, deceptively clear prose imaginable.

I've also read Brave New World some time back. I haven't read Animal Farm though, but I intend to do that after my exams :)
 

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Rorschach was just a vigilante, someone with a strong moral compass who you could measure the other characters against. He is like the opposite of Ozymandias.

Maybe I assumed most of these guys were super heros, with powers, when I started reading and got hung up on that premise. Although I admit that one of the most famous super heros is just a man who relies on technology- Batman.
 

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I've also read Brave New World some time back. I haven't read Animal Farm though, but I intend to do that after my exams :)

Thanks for posting on this, a topic which I find fascinating. Actually, which I cannot recommend 'Animal Farm' by George Orwell highly enough.

Once upon a a time, (in a previous life) I used to teach politics & history to undergrads, and I used to recommend 'Animal Farm' as a book which anyone on the planet who wishes to understand power politics should acquaint themselves with.....

Well, such is life.....
 

kazmac

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the movie...

I'm going to see if the movie is available for (free) streaming.

I seem to recall it was criticized by Watchmen fans. When I first saw trailers for the movie, and saw Rorschach, I was like "whoa" what can this guy do? Is he human? In fact he has no special powers at all, he's just strange, wears a piece of undulating fabric over his face, has no fear, and knows how to fight. This does not qualify as a super hero. Maybe that was the point?

What I remember of the film, none of them seemed to have powers beyond Dr. Manhattan.
 

twietee

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Isn't Ozymnadias the most intelligent person on earth? I don't know about Rorschach but the movie is actually one of the best comic adaptions imho - but I haven't read the comics :)D) just some Before Watchmen issues lately (awesome btw). If only this tedious Dr Manhattan on Mars scene would have been handled better..:D

8.5/10

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Oh, reading The Man Without Qualities by Robert Musil right now. Great book.
 

Huntn

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Isn't Ozymnadias the most intelligent person on earth? I don't know about Rorschach but the movie is actually one of the best comic adaptions imho - but I haven't read the comics :)D) just some Before Watchmen issues lately (awesome btw). If only this tedious Dr Manhattan on Mars scene would have been handled better..:D

If you did not read the comic, maybe you consider it a good movie, but how do you know it's a good adaption? :p
 

twietee

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If you did not read the comic, maybe you consider it a good movie, but how do you know it's a good adaption? :p

My vast experience with superhero popcorn flics. :p

And some opinions of more knowledgeable friends. No, seriously, it's good entertainment, go watch it! :D
 

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Isn't Ozymnadias the most intelligent person on earth? I don't know about Rorschach but the movie is actually one of the best comic adaptions imho - but I haven't read the comics :)D) just some Before Watchmen issues lately (awesome btw). If only this tedious Dr Manhattan on Mars scene would have been handled better..:D

8.5/10

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Oh, reading The Man Without Qualities by Robert Musil right now. Great book.

Ah, yes. I remember reading Robert Musil's 'The Man Without Qualities' a few years ago; it is one of those fascinating books which evokes that languor and jaded ennui so prevalent in some sections of upper middle class intellectual circles in parts of the European intelligentsia prior to World War 1.
 

pachyderm

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Thanks for posting on this, a topic which I find fascinating. Actually, which I cannot recommend 'Animal Farm' by George Orwell highly enough.

Once upon a a time, (in a previous life) I used to teach politics & history to undergrads, and I used to recommend 'Animal Farm' as a book which anyone on the planet who wishes to understand power politics should acquaint themselves with.....

Well, such is life.....


Animal Farm one of my all time faves...


The Crucible too...
 
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