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What Brand of Kitchen Appliances Do You Depend On?
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Anyone here use Titanium Cutting boards? I ask because I saw an ad for one touting its health benefits (Staying clean) and with a whopping discount, it was still over $100. So to Amazon, I went and found a set of 3 for $36, but after the fact noticed the name was “100% Pure Cut Titanium”, not “100% Titanium” and after I used one for slicing vegetables, it accrued multiple scratches on it. This usage involved zero saw action. So they are being returned, but before I do any other ordering, I though I’d confirm with someone who owns an actual titanium cutting board, it they rapidly get cuts in them, or should they stay pristine for a while? 🤔
This thread is interesting to me because I'd never even heard of some of the brands being discussed (probably either rare or nonexistent in my country), and I suspect that it goes both ways. With that in mind, I have:
Dishwasher: Fisher & Paykel. It's probably close to twenty years old and it almost still works like new. A spring or something broke about a year ago so the door no longer opens smoothly but will just plummet to the floor if you don't guide it down.
Cooktop: Westinghouse. I'd say it's of similar vintage. Had to replace one of the simmerstats a couple of years ago but otherwise functional.
Oven: Simpson. Again, around twenty years old (can you tell I got everything at once?) and it's only just starting to show the first signs of issues. When you turn it "off" it continues to run the fan until it cools down enough. In recent months the temperature sensor seems to have gone a little wonky because the fan will stop and start for a couple of minutes when it reaches the low end of the scale.
Fridge: Also a Simpson. I think this is probably the oldest of the lot, as I had it before I moved into my current place, but I don't remember where it came from. Still works fine, although I'm sure the compressor's louder than it used to be.
In short, it seems that circa-2005, everyone was making stuff that would last around twenty years!
Dishwasher: Fisher & Paykel. It's probably close to twenty years old and it almost still works like new. A spring or something broke about a year ago so the door no longer opens smoothly but will just plummet to the floor if you don't guide it down.
Cooktop: Westinghouse. I'd say it's of similar vintage. Had to replace one of the simmerstats a couple of years ago but otherwise functional.
Oven: Simpson. Again, around twenty years old (can you tell I got everything at once?) and it's only just starting to show the first signs of issues. When you turn it "off" it continues to run the fan until it cools down enough. In recent months the temperature sensor seems to have gone a little wonky because the fan will stop and start for a couple of minutes when it reaches the low end of the scale.
Fridge: Also a Simpson. I think this is probably the oldest of the lot, as I had it before I moved into my current place, but I don't remember where it came from. Still works fine, although I'm sure the compressor's louder than it used to be.
In short, it seems that circa-2005, everyone was making stuff that would last around twenty years!
I've used him for years to find the appliances that work well for me.
the rtings and consumer reports kind of reviews take into consideration features, they do not tested for reliability and longevity (quality). This is why I like honest reviews from experts like this. Albeit I understand why they do not have reliability reviews, you need to test it over period of 3-5 years and come back with results unless there is another way to test for quality built and durability.
Most of these appliances were bought in 2021-2022. It is now 2025.
>>Refrigerator: Whirlpool WRX735SDH207
The compressor died 3 months or so. Proprietary comp needed to be ordered to the tune of around $700 after installation and was on backlog for 3 months (hence the wait) called last week and there was an additional delay on the part. SO, my opinion of Whirlpool is not high considering the $2000 + tax this high efficiency piece of **** was new. Because of this terrible experience, I DO NOT recommend this unit and this has been a big dent in my perception of Whirlpool (which really makes me sad as they still are here in the US). The lack of proprietary parts really is unacceptable IMO. I have used WP for decades with great value and operational consistency but this most recent unit/experience has been pretty horrendous. Whirlpool can and needs to do better here.
>>Refrigerator (replacement until my comp comes in) Frigidaire FFHT1822UV - $499.00 on clearance. A much more basic model and will live in the garage after repair of primary fridge next to my coffin freezer. This has been such a pain in the arse. I wrote whirlpool and they said, essentially so sad, too bad LOL. I am not at all impressed with high efficiency anything. All it is, is an excuse to put in under powered componentry into large premium boxes and call it high-efficiency and when the stuff breaks, too bad, just buy another! HE hasnt saved me a dime - only cost me money in spoiled foods, wasted time and money. It's such a rip off. Give me the big energy eating comp any day - you know what, it'll be working in 20 years.
Stove/Oven - SAMSUNG NE63A6111SS - $800 USD when new. My prior electric induction cook top oven died the day before Thanksgiving 2021. So I was buying and installing this oven on Thanksgiving lol. Never tried SS before, so thought Id give them a shot and was in the budget. This unit has worked OK and I like the big oven space. The induction top (while I prefer gas) has worked very well I have to admit. the weak point of this unit is the circuit board. When teh oven heats up, the computer touch screen will not work. I cannot change cooking options or temps for example. The oven doesnt turn off, but the interface for it gets all wonky. For this reason alone, I DO NOT recomend it. Of course it is out of warranty and I cannot get this fixed without hitting the price of a new oven, so when the cook top bites it, Ill buy a new one but since I for most of what I need, I can preset the temp anf function before preheating the oven, Im ok with keeping it and using it for daily purposes.
Microwave - SAMSUNG ME16A4021AS - $250 USD when new. I bought this when I bought the range/oven. This thing is an even bigger POS. Like the oven, the microwave touch screen digital read out has broken, and displays garbled figures. The unit does still mostly work but has turned off on me a couple times over the past year. Again, since it *mostly* works, I will keep it until I pick up a new stovetop/oven. Id like to buy them at the same time so warranty time frames match if possible. I DO NOT recommend this brand at all. Their electronics are a POS.
Dishwasher - Whirlpool WDT750SAKZ0 - $600 when new. This unit has worked remarkably well. This is in stark contrast to the refrigerator. Both were bought new at the same time. This unit has been fantastic. It requires a prewash/descaler product to keep everything working well but that is a $7 purchase every month or so, so no big deal and operations is excellent. I highly recommend this unit. It has done great.
Wolf Gourmet counter top oven - $600.00 on sale. This unit is a beast. I love it. I use it weekly and it does a great job. Fits a standard frozen pizza or 9x13 pan or small quarter sheetpan if you have those. Really a great buy and bargain if you are looking to augment/extend your oven situation with something smaller so you dont have to turn on the big oven/heat up the kitchen OR during holidays, have that extra oven space for your 9x13 of green bean casserole or twices baked taters or whatever it might be. I also use it as a salamander. HIGHLY RECOMMEND.
NINJA Air Fryer - Two basket unit, $250 when new. This was a replcement for the prior NINJA 2 basket unit we had. I love these units. They are really great and worth the money. I use these every other day probably, so 5-7 days a week every week. They are really great appliances to have making wuick work for anything frozen that is "fried* ie: fries. chips, onion rings, chicken nuggets, fish sticks & filets, or a refry of something like piza, or day old tacos etc. These really are fantastic applicances. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND.
Toaster, DUALIT four slice unit - I love how these units toast. I have had this one for 20 years probably. They are made in Great Britain for their Euro grid. I have noticed that here in the states, our grid tends to be a tiny bit too powerful (?) which causes the button control to blow up from time to time. In the past 20 years, Ive replaced this part twice. With shipping these are always arund $40ish bucks USD? The good news is that all of the parts for repair are online from heating elements and wiring harneses to buttons and controls etc. While I DO RECOMEND, understand that here in the states, these units will require upkeep (unsureof this is a slight voltage mismatch or what- not an electrician LOL) but I love so much how well they toast ,that I keep mine functioning in the kitchen and understand that every 10 years or so Ill be doing something to it lol which is OK because unlike Whirlpool LOL, I can get all the parts readily haha. Anyways, it toasts something every single day, whether it be a piece of homemmade bread or a bagel etc. They are a very well engineered and fully repairable toaster.
Mixer - KITCHEN AID crank style bowl-lift model in white. I got this as a graduation gift in 1999 when I graduated from culinary school. This thing has been rock solid for me all these years in my owbn kitchen and has made at this point, probably 100s of loaves of bread and batches of doughs for cookies, enriched yeast doghs etc, even whipped taters LOL. Now over the past 26 years or so, the seals have started to wheep a bit of oil. Luckily like all teh appliances I LIKE, you can easily get all the needed parts for repair that you might need. Again UNLIKE whirlpool, KA has a vibrant and readily accessible ecosystem of aftermarket parts available to us. In addition to this, there are countless attachments that I have from pasta makers, to sausage grinders to sausage stuffers to apple/vegetable corers that connect tp the front of the unit making it a very handy and useful appliance in my kicthen. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND a KA mixer although I think if I were to buy another, I would try out the tilt back design. Granted, the KA crank design is a tried and tru design that mimics American Hobart professional bakery/kitchen food service 8qt and up mixers. All of those units have a crank bowl lift design.
>>Refrigerator: Whirlpool WRX735SDH207
The compressor died 3 months or so. Proprietary comp needed to be ordered to the tune of around $700 after installation and was on backlog for 3 months (hence the wait) called last week and there was an additional delay on the part. SO, my opinion of Whirlpool is not high considering the $2000 + tax this high efficiency piece of **** was new. Because of this terrible experience, I DO NOT recommend this unit and this has been a big dent in my perception of Whirlpool (which really makes me sad as they still are here in the US). The lack of proprietary parts really is unacceptable IMO. I have used WP for decades with great value and operational consistency but this most recent unit/experience has been pretty horrendous. Whirlpool can and needs to do better here.
>>Refrigerator (replacement until my comp comes in) Frigidaire FFHT1822UV - $499.00 on clearance. A much more basic model and will live in the garage after repair of primary fridge next to my coffin freezer. This has been such a pain in the arse. I wrote whirlpool and they said, essentially so sad, too bad LOL. I am not at all impressed with high efficiency anything. All it is, is an excuse to put in under powered componentry into large premium boxes and call it high-efficiency and when the stuff breaks, too bad, just buy another! HE hasnt saved me a dime - only cost me money in spoiled foods, wasted time and money. It's such a rip off. Give me the big energy eating comp any day - you know what, it'll be working in 20 years.
Stove/Oven - SAMSUNG NE63A6111SS - $800 USD when new. My prior electric induction cook top oven died the day before Thanksgiving 2021. So I was buying and installing this oven on Thanksgiving lol. Never tried SS before, so thought Id give them a shot and was in the budget. This unit has worked OK and I like the big oven space. The induction top (while I prefer gas) has worked very well I have to admit. the weak point of this unit is the circuit board. When teh oven heats up, the computer touch screen will not work. I cannot change cooking options or temps for example. The oven doesnt turn off, but the interface for it gets all wonky. For this reason alone, I DO NOT recomend it. Of course it is out of warranty and I cannot get this fixed without hitting the price of a new oven, so when the cook top bites it, Ill buy a new one but since I for most of what I need, I can preset the temp anf function before preheating the oven, Im ok with keeping it and using it for daily purposes.
Microwave - SAMSUNG ME16A4021AS - $250 USD when new. I bought this when I bought the range/oven. This thing is an even bigger POS. Like the oven, the microwave touch screen digital read out has broken, and displays garbled figures. The unit does still mostly work but has turned off on me a couple times over the past year. Again, since it *mostly* works, I will keep it until I pick up a new stovetop/oven. Id like to buy them at the same time so warranty time frames match if possible. I DO NOT recommend this brand at all. Their electronics are a POS.
Dishwasher - Whirlpool WDT750SAKZ0 - $600 when new. This unit has worked remarkably well. This is in stark contrast to the refrigerator. Both were bought new at the same time. This unit has been fantastic. It requires a prewash/descaler product to keep everything working well but that is a $7 purchase every month or so, so no big deal and operations is excellent. I highly recommend this unit. It has done great.
Wolf Gourmet counter top oven - $600.00 on sale. This unit is a beast. I love it. I use it weekly and it does a great job. Fits a standard frozen pizza or 9x13 pan or small quarter sheetpan if you have those. Really a great buy and bargain if you are looking to augment/extend your oven situation with something smaller so you dont have to turn on the big oven/heat up the kitchen OR during holidays, have that extra oven space for your 9x13 of green bean casserole or twices baked taters or whatever it might be. I also use it as a salamander. HIGHLY RECOMMEND.
NINJA Air Fryer - Two basket unit, $250 when new. This was a replcement for the prior NINJA 2 basket unit we had. I love these units. They are really great and worth the money. I use these every other day probably, so 5-7 days a week every week. They are really great appliances to have making wuick work for anything frozen that is "fried* ie: fries. chips, onion rings, chicken nuggets, fish sticks & filets, or a refry of something like piza, or day old tacos etc. These really are fantastic applicances. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND.
Toaster, DUALIT four slice unit - I love how these units toast. I have had this one for 20 years probably. They are made in Great Britain for their Euro grid. I have noticed that here in the states, our grid tends to be a tiny bit too powerful (?) which causes the button control to blow up from time to time. In the past 20 years, Ive replaced this part twice. With shipping these are always arund $40ish bucks USD? The good news is that all of the parts for repair are online from heating elements and wiring harneses to buttons and controls etc. While I DO RECOMEND, understand that here in the states, these units will require upkeep (unsureof this is a slight voltage mismatch or what- not an electrician LOL) but I love so much how well they toast ,that I keep mine functioning in the kitchen and understand that every 10 years or so Ill be doing something to it lol which is OK because unlike Whirlpool LOL, I can get all the parts readily haha. Anyways, it toasts something every single day, whether it be a piece of homemmade bread or a bagel etc. They are a very well engineered and fully repairable toaster.
Mixer - KITCHEN AID crank style bowl-lift model in white. I got this as a graduation gift in 1999 when I graduated from culinary school. This thing has been rock solid for me all these years in my owbn kitchen and has made at this point, probably 100s of loaves of bread and batches of doughs for cookies, enriched yeast doghs etc, even whipped taters LOL. Now over the past 26 years or so, the seals have started to wheep a bit of oil. Luckily like all teh appliances I LIKE, you can easily get all the needed parts for repair that you might need. Again UNLIKE whirlpool, KA has a vibrant and readily accessible ecosystem of aftermarket parts available to us. In addition to this, there are countless attachments that I have from pasta makers, to sausage grinders to sausage stuffers to apple/vegetable corers that connect tp the front of the unit making it a very handy and useful appliance in my kicthen. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND a KA mixer although I think if I were to buy another, I would try out the tilt back design. Granted, the KA crank design is a tried and tru design that mimics American Hobart professional bakery/kitchen food service 8qt and up mixers. All of those units have a crank bowl lift design.
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it amazes me how these brands are in business with such low quality. at $2K you would expect to work at least 10 years no issue.
why is your microwave $250? they can be found for less than $100
We use a glass cutting board. It’s terrible for knives, but no contaminants like wood or plastic.
Are you sure your titanium really is? Grades can vary a lot. I used to make things from titanium back in the day. Yes it can scratch. That’s why the iPhone 17 Air comes with a bumper option!
No idea. These appliances were purchased through Lowes at the time and that was the price. This was right around C19 lockdowns which was impacting distribution and availability IIRC so options low and high demand could have pushed up pricing? Looks like that still is the price though at Lowe’s anyhow for comparable Units.
What I think I may do is just bite the bullet and replace it with something like this. I am tall so shrinking the big boxy microwave with something low-profile I think will open up and make the working space better for me and my use case. It's also whirlpool and as upset as I am with them about the lack of aftermarket refrigerator parts, the dishwasher has been fantastic and past experience with their appliances has been great, so Im hesitant to give up on them especially as they're MIA and American industry is where I like to put my money when I can. There are other makers of low profile MIA above-range microwaves, so I will look at those as well of course.
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We tend to buy whatever is cheapest that is a decently known brand whenever there is a need. That's been a variety of devices over the years. The only real brand I have any loyalty to is whatever brand of coffeemaker is making good coffee. Right now that's Cuisinart and Keurig. I try to avoid Mr. Coffee.
We moved in to our current house in 2018, so it already had the appliances except for the refrigerator. GE microwave and Whirlpool stove and dishwasher. The previous house was a rental for 18 years and I forget which appliance brand the stove and dishwasher were. But they never failed during our time there. Before that, we weren't in a place long enough for appliances to fail and that was California, so gas stoves if needed were generally bought used. Microwaves, were again, whatever brand was cheapest.
The only remarkable appliance I can really comment on is the refrigerator. That is a Whirlpool, bought at Best Buy in San Bernardino, CA in 1997. Two older refrigerators had failed in succession at our new place (recently married at the time) and my mother bought the Whirlpool for us new. The first one (this is the second) didn't get past the driveway. The glass shelves inside had shattered from the shipping and you could hear it. The delivery guys were not happy that I refused delivery, but I wasn't taking a refrigerator with shattered glass shelves.
The second one, which is the one we have, is still working 28 years later. In the last four years it has also had to deal with working in an environment where the central A/C has failed and not been fixed. Temps at night can climb downstairs to about 95º F during the summer because I have the portable A/C switched off (no one is downstairs in the middle of the night).
But I expected this longevity of my refrigerator. My parents had a refrigerator (Coldpoint) that I grew up with as a little kid until my late teens. Our Whirlpool refrigerator has survived three moves, one from California to Arizona and kept working.
We moved in to our current house in 2018, so it already had the appliances except for the refrigerator. GE microwave and Whirlpool stove and dishwasher. The previous house was a rental for 18 years and I forget which appliance brand the stove and dishwasher were. But they never failed during our time there. Before that, we weren't in a place long enough for appliances to fail and that was California, so gas stoves if needed were generally bought used. Microwaves, were again, whatever brand was cheapest.
The only remarkable appliance I can really comment on is the refrigerator. That is a Whirlpool, bought at Best Buy in San Bernardino, CA in 1997. Two older refrigerators had failed in succession at our new place (recently married at the time) and my mother bought the Whirlpool for us new. The first one (this is the second) didn't get past the driveway. The glass shelves inside had shattered from the shipping and you could hear it. The delivery guys were not happy that I refused delivery, but I wasn't taking a refrigerator with shattered glass shelves.
The second one, which is the one we have, is still working 28 years later. In the last four years it has also had to deal with working in an environment where the central A/C has failed and not been fixed. Temps at night can climb downstairs to about 95º F during the summer because I have the portable A/C switched off (no one is downstairs in the middle of the night).
But I expected this longevity of my refrigerator. My parents had a refrigerator (Coldpoint) that I grew up with as a little kid until my late teens. Our Whirlpool refrigerator has survived three moves, one from California to Arizona and kept working.
I was slicing vegetables on it and it accrued many knife marks, so it was suspect. I was hoping someone who has a titanium board can tell me now long it should remain unmarked, in essence how well it should be expected to hold up. Image is what I returned after very short usage. My impression is that titanium is supposed to be very resistant to such marks, but I don't know.
Well, steel of higher quality knives made from high carbon steel are going to be harder than pure titanium. Carbion steels typically have a Rockwell hardness scale of around 58-60 while pure titanium is closer to 40 - so from the scoring on your board, that makes sense if you are in fact using a high quality knife like a Wusthof, Henkel, Forschner etc. on a softer alloy like pure Titanium.
Conversely, for a harder titanium board, likely it would be a mixture of metals/alloys to increase that rating but I would steer clear of that because then you are looking at hardnesses that exceed your high $$ knives and would damage the blade, dulling and misshaping the edge making for an unsafe knife to use and shortening what should be a very long and healthy cutting life.
Ive never liked using weird stiff materials like glass or alloys for that matter because the knife is too slippery on the board, making for an unsafe surface to cut on. I guess if you are using only up & down motions like a cleaver or Santuko design for example, that might be ok, but using a chef/French knife which is what I generally use for most applications, that knifes rocking motion technique requires a softer material like wood or HDPE for example for your blade to "hold onto".
I always look for two things when replacing a cutting board:
1. made of a 2" hard wood or 2" or thicker HDPE for raw meats fabrication
2. As big as I can get it. I want ALOT of real estate. Nothing is more obnoxious than trying to meez up ingredients on some dinky tiny little cutting board. Size I go for is 2' x 2.5' or larger. This allows for proper knife technique to be used where strides can sometimes be around 2 feet long LOL. You can tell that the ding dongs that design half of the cutting boards you see out there have no idea how to properly handle a kitchen knife like a French or breaking knife.
Anyways, I hope this helps illuminate the mystery behind the scoring on your Titanium cutting board.
Conversely, for a harder titanium board, likely it would be a mixture of metals/alloys to increase that rating but I would steer clear of that because then you are looking at hardnesses that exceed your high $$ knives and would damage the blade, dulling and misshaping the edge making for an unsafe knife to use and shortening what should be a very long and healthy cutting life.
Ive never liked using weird stiff materials like glass or alloys for that matter because the knife is too slippery on the board, making for an unsafe surface to cut on. I guess if you are using only up & down motions like a cleaver or Santuko design for example, that might be ok, but using a chef/French knife which is what I generally use for most applications, that knifes rocking motion technique requires a softer material like wood or HDPE for example for your blade to "hold onto".
I always look for two things when replacing a cutting board:
1. made of a 2" hard wood or 2" or thicker HDPE for raw meats fabrication
2. As big as I can get it. I want ALOT of real estate. Nothing is more obnoxious than trying to meez up ingredients on some dinky tiny little cutting board. Size I go for is 2' x 2.5' or larger. This allows for proper knife technique to be used where strides can sometimes be around 2 feet long LOL. You can tell that the ding dongs that design half of the cutting boards you see out there have no idea how to properly handle a kitchen knife like a French or breaking knife.
Anyways, I hope this helps illuminate the mystery behind the scoring on your Titanium cutting board.
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Same, the refrigerator that came with my current house purchase was an all black and silver trim Whirlpool from the 90s. High efficiency wasnt a thing back then (I dont recall it anyways) so the focus naturally was on operational longevity. I was DUMB for donating that fridge to a charity. I should have made space in the garage and kept it as backup storage for drinks or whatever. I simply did not anticipate that this effectively new refrigerator would conk out in under 5 years lol but when it died, I took the back panel off of it and the compressor was a TINY thing. I could not believe it (I liken it to cartoons where you see a roadster and they flip the hood and theres a mouse on a bicycle in there LOL). The comp in my previous fridge I want to say was almost twice as big LOL. Anyways, live and learn. High Efficiency is crap.
never heard of glass, but i hear stainless steel is the best for cutting boards, its what they use in medical equipment
$450 microwave?
soft material create contaminates , hard material breaks the knife. What to do? Wood looks disgusting after sometime as it soaked all juices from meats and vegetables.
how is the cheap products doing? do they perform just as well as the more expensive stuff?
So, far it's been working fine. It's hard to say because for a number of reasons, we aren't often replacing devices. Larger appliances, like the dryer I am in the market for now, tend to come from charity shops, so the model is whatever they are selling.
Our last microwave was excellent and working when we gave it to the Goodwill. But, the new house came with a microwave so we couldn't keep it. The current coffeemaker is probably 3-4 years old and so far hasn't failed. I suppose that's a record because we usually replace them within a year or so. But, I don't like buying expensive coffeemakers because I've done that - and they've broken in a short period of time. Once a coffemaker starts making bad coffee, no amount of cleaning will fix that.
I'm not in to the whole pay less and then toss it thing. But I'm also not into the pay more and then toss it thing either. My experience has been that the pricier stuff (at Walmart) fails faster. Of course, major brands like Kitchenaid, you can get at Walmart and those are an exception. But if you ever look in Walmart's small appliance aisle, there are a lot of lesser known but more expensive brands.
Yes, I have no problem paying for a quality low profile microwave. It is an appliance I use almost daily for thawing frozen food products, heating dinner plates etc. The point is not to pay the lowest I can, rather buy the appliance that best fits my needs and won’t start breaking in under 5 years lol.
There are contaminants in our ecosystems exponentially more toxic that we walk into when we go outside, than natural non toxic cellulose (tree bits) from a cutting board lol.
Me personally, I would much rather ingest a bit of natural wood over carcinogenic plastic or sharp bit of glass, or alloy for that matter. Trying to get a piece of glass or metal lodged in your GI tract out would be a surgical nightmare IMO. It is why I use and recommend wood for most kitchen applications aside from raw meat fabrication where HDPE is a solid, washable/sanitized option.
As far as food borne illness from improperly washed boards, well that is on you if you do not properly wash & sanitize your kitchen surfaces. My boards are washed per use and the plastic boards I have for protein fabrication fit in my dishwasher with the trays out, so get high-heat sanitized at 180F+ in there along with a solid wash.
I do recommend occasional sanding of your butcher block as well as food grade oil treatment. The sanding removes any crevices from wear where the food bits can get stuck and the food grade oil or beeswax treatment prevents absorption of juices. Anyhow, I do sand … oh probably 2-3 times a year and beeswax or butcherblock oil is monthly . Like anything, cutting boards should not be expected to last forever. They require cleaning, maintenance and yes wear out so should be replaced when needed.
These are my preferences and rationale for them anyhow.
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