What Browser is everyone using?

[Pastuh]

Efficiency. Same as everyone else.

Why do software developers develop for an operating system instead of writing their own operating system and packaging it in?

He may not have been feeling the love for Mozilla at the time after getting "resigned".

I shot him a message on Twitter asking why Brave was built on chromium, and he referenced this link where he answered previously:

https://www.reddit.com/r/brave_browser/comments/9l0gnx/_/e74fcuo
From Brendan Eich (CEO):

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/959909542246019072

We started w/ Gecko in 2015 at Brave, counted compatibility problems vs. switching to chromium, made the switch. Business decision, we agreed. Stop arguing for us to impair our growth with compat bugs that our users cannot fix.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/950209816902774785

No real choice on mobile. On desktop we started in 2015 w/ Gecko, did full evaluation against chromium, latter won. No benefit in going back to Gecko (Firefox faces diff tradeoff but on back foot now breaking XUL addons). WebKit lineage + Chrome market power => de facto standard.

 

[pshufd]

I shot him a message on Twitter asking why Brave was built on chromium, and he referenced this link where he answered previously:

https://www.reddit.com/r/brave_browser/comments/9l0gnx/_/e74fcuo
From Brendan Eich (CEO):

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/959909542246019072

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/950209816902774785

Yeah, lack of control. I hadn't seen those posts but the nature of the breakup would have made it very difficult.

I'm glad that many of the engineers landed at Brave.

 

[MacBH928]

I am using Chrome, the Apple Silicon-native version, on my M1 MacBook Air. I find it seems to operate nicer than Safari, especially since I use AdBlock (I even donated a bit to them!) as an attempt to keep my computers secure. AdBlock on Safari prevents some YouTube videos playing, but does not have this problem on Chrome. Plus, it seems Chrome and Safari on my M1 MacBook Air both consume the same amount of energy, and even with that, I still get hours and hours out of the Air's battery!

Please note some adblockers get paid to let some ads in. uBlock Origin is the def acto adblocker trusted by everyone and is open source. For Safari I would use AdGuard for Safari or 1blocrkr(paid).

If you care about privacy, give Brave a shot as a replacement for Chrome is near a Chrome clone without the Google spy code.

It’s always cost vs benefit. Anything else except chrome and safari is way too low in terms of user base to prioritise.

Surely Safari is in the minority as its available only on Mac and even Mac users do not necessarily use Safari, unless you mean mobile Safari which powers all iOS devices.

I worked on Firefox a long time ago and I met Eich in a meeting on the Javascript JIT back in 2008.

He officially resigned but his position was untenable once he was outed.

I was somewhat amazed at how good a job he did putting the Brave team together. He's very accessible on Twitter too.

I think it was a forced resignation

I may be asking a loaded/stupid question, but if you add an extension like Ublock Origin to FireFox or Chrome are they now essentially like Brave and all are now the same/similar from a privacy perspective?

No this only block ads and some trackers. With Chrome, for all that we know there might be code in there that registers every keyboard click you make.

FF+uBlock Origin is safe, Chrome+uBO no.

Samsung is a bad analogy, because the different divisions of that company are essentially separate entities that share a name. For example, Samsung's display division is a completely separate company from their chip fabrication company and their phone company.

Ok fine , they still buying from Intel and Intel is making mockery of them. So is Microsoft with Surface vs iPad ads. They still buy from Qualcomm when they obviously making their own modems and went to court for a long time.

I shot him a message on Twitter asking why Brave was built on chromium, and he referenced this link where he answered previously:

https://www.reddit.com/r/brave_browser/comments/9l0gnx/_/e74fcuo
From Brendan Eich (CEO):

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/959909542246019072

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/950209816902774785

The problem with Chromium is that it will make all the internet work on Google's Blink engine. very dangerous in my opinion. I think maybe we all should adopt an open source alternative either Apple, FF, and Brave use Gecko or use WebKit.

 

[akash.nu]

Surely Safari is in the minority as its available only on Mac and even Mac users do not necessarily use Safari, unless you mean mobile Safari which powers all iOS devices.

Most Mac users actually do use Safari. Regardless, even though it’s only available on Macs the total user base is still higher than Firefox. And the Safari usage data we’re working with does include both iOS and macOS since the site needs to support both platforms.

Of course chrome is the most popular browser just because it supports all of the platforms in general.

 

[russell_314]

In what way is it a privacy nightmare? Do you mean when actually logged into it with a non business account? Or just in general? If just in general what does it do?

It’s Google. Google makes money selling your information. You’d be crazy to think Chrome isn’t collecting everything you do in that browser. They’re not going to steal your credit card information so I doubt there’s any security risk but there’s no privacy

 

[excelsior.ink]

I use Safari most of the time because:
- integration with Keychain so passwords are easy to use when you have so many accounts
- syncing between devices in the Apple ecosystem (bookmarks, passwords, history etc)
- it's the fastest and most memory efficient on a Mac
- it's decent in terms of privacy, Apple is taking this seriuosly and even fighting other companies regarding this
What Safari lacks:
- it doesn't have profiles so I have to use also Safari Technology Preview as a kind of second profile
- you cannot share the screen while in a Zoom conference (I need this for work), but it works with Google Chat/Hangouts, Skype, WhatsApp (I hate these apps but I am forced to use them)
- sometime, in rare circumstances, Safari doesn't display a web page properly
When I need a Chromium based browser I use Ungoogled Chromium, which is Chromium with Google integration and telemetry removed.