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Phones What can an iPhone do that a android phone can't? [EDIT: and vice-versa]
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Truest post in this entire thing. Tried 2 different Android phones before returning to my iphone 4 again. Flash is nice except when you want your phone to last more than 3 hours plus all those cool widgets and things you see that make android special? They all eat battery like crazy...the solution on all the message boards? Turn them off...well whats the point of having a sweet Android phone if you cant use two of the only features that even make it different from the iphone? Not to mention the fact that the camera on most of them is garbage and that the stock browsers seem to suffer from being the laggiest things in the known universe. Plus the Motorola phones all have "blur" on them which is reason enough to not use any of them...Enjoy having 90% of your 1gb of ram being used by the system to keep blur going and even then it still manages to lag somehow.
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Ok heres one:
How come every time I see hot girls with a sense of fashion, or wealthy businessmen with a sense of style, or young rich people, or old rich people, or everybody who just comes off as alpha or elite, the people who run things pretty much and are leaders or icons; how come they all have the iPhone? And all the commoners, the average, the anti, the dorks, the low-brow, the lower class... they all seem to have Androids?
When the pattern changes, Ill change my story. Its not an unreasonable argument if the trend is true. The people who otherwise exude sensibility and the leaders of our civilization, the people who seem like they already make, and have the power to make, the best choices in life, choose iPhone.
Yes but all these features are from multiple phones so it kind of makes your point redundant.
My 1000th post finally.
I actually am starting to believe bigger phones is the future but it is a matter of getting used to them. I know there was a time when phones were getting smaller and some people hated it. Now phones are getting bigger and some people hate it. People don't always like change.
With a bigger phone, manufacturers have the ability to put better specs on them and bigger battery compared to trying to cram them in a smaller device. iPhone 5 to me will just have similar specs of the six-month old Samsung Galaxy S II but can run iOS.
Samsung is Apple's biggest threat when it comes to hardware. Try producing the best phone for two platforms (Android and WP7), make their own CPU and GPU, make their own cameras, make their own screens, can make a flexible OLED, and is already going to be in the 5-inch screen club for cell phones with the Galaxy Note. Don't underestimate the brilliance from the Koreans. Apple can go claim foul with a GUI, but Sammy has alot of things going for it other than a 4-year old grid interface look-alike.
iPhone 5 will have a bigger screen, a dual-core A5 chip, 8MP camera with 1080p video, better GPU, etc. All that stuff already seen before with the Galaxy S II.
Software-wise, Apple is still better but that gap is closing. Hardware-wise, Apple is now playing catch-up. But the way Apple presents it and markets it makes the regular masses and non-geeks feel it is fresh and they invented. When in fact, Android phones coming from Samsung or HTC has surpassed iPhones internally.
With a bigger phone, manufacturers have the ability to put better specs on them and bigger battery compared to trying to cram them in a smaller device. iPhone 5 to me will just have similar specs of the six-month old Samsung Galaxy S II but can run iOS.
Samsung is Apple's biggest threat when it comes to hardware. Try producing the best phone for two platforms (Android and WP7), make their own CPU and GPU, make their own cameras, make their own screens, can make a flexible OLED, and is already going to be in the 5-inch screen club for cell phones with the Galaxy Note. Don't underestimate the brilliance from the Koreans. Apple can go claim foul with a GUI, but Sammy has alot of things going for it other than a 4-year old grid interface look-alike.
iPhone 5 will have a bigger screen, a dual-core A5 chip, 8MP camera with 1080p video, better GPU, etc. All that stuff already seen before with the Galaxy S II.
Software-wise, Apple is still better but that gap is closing. Hardware-wise, Apple is now playing catch-up. But the way Apple presents it and markets it makes the regular masses and non-geeks feel it is fresh and they invented. When in fact, Android phones coming from Samsung or HTC has surpassed iPhones internally.
high end apps unused = a non differentiator factor = high end specs unused. according to your logic. i do however doubt that millions would spend good $ buying apps that they don't use
i understand where you're coming from. that's what i'm trying to push that it does make a difference for some (ie the millions that uses camera+). i personally don't use apps like iMovie and pages much but i've seen lots of people using it and the sales statistics shows there's a demand.
ps: i do agree that the glass decision is absolutely terrible. i've seen many people with cracked screens on the train and i've personally been a victim of it *shudders*
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boy so because that is what you see it must be true.
based on that argument most people who I see using iPhones are snobs or complete idiots when it comes to dealing with phones and computers. Android users are generally cooler people, smarter and know how to use computers and technology. Heck the Android guys seem to know more about iPhones than the idiot iPhone users.
Btw the leaders do not use iPhones or Android phones. They tend to use blackberries.
At least get your phone right in your arguments.
Either way both your post scream fanboy.
Not really. What they show is you have choices. You have to give up less to get what you want.
Take the iPhone you have 1 choice. What a larger or smaller screen size.. Nope. Want a keyboard nope not happening.
Want NFC- nope.
Choosing a smart phone right now is all about what are you willing to compromise on to get what you want. Android you have to compromise less than on for iOS.
A.
Malware is a big issue. I personally had the content of my phone stolen by a free backup program. In another occasion, I encountered a faked VOIP program that only accepts user ID and password but no dialing function. Then, several third party keyboard programs contain warning that the application could send the details of what I type including user ID and password to the vendor's server. I have no faith in the market place and would not use the phone other than for ROM flashing and exploration purposes.
B.
The music playback customization is impossible to achieve on Android. I have challenged anyone to do this for over a year already. Now I challenge you too to do it.
C.
Yes, google does some that too, but not as well as iOS.
D.
I'm talking about Android phones' various and inconsistent way of copy and paste. Even on Nexus phones, you still have many ways of copy and paste because the third party applications do it in all sorts of different ways.
E.
Many phones that customers buy new are still on old Android version, and you have to wait and wait for the most recent firmware, if it ever comes. This is a fact.
F.
It is not an opinion. It's a fact that the Andoird version of that application does not support HTML mail for sending out score to your golf buddies. It is a fact that it is laggy on my Samsung Galaxy S. it's also a fact that the UI is inconsistent because the going to previous function is the same as in iPhone everywhere but only in one place it uses the back button.
G. Having these application running is bad IMO from security viewpoint, as applications could be started without my permission, battery consumption is taxed more heavily, and it makes the phone more laggy.
H.
There are applications that disable the back button and uses the iOS style of going back to the previous function, for good reasons. One such application that I used was a video application. Since accidental touching of the back button could and often happen, users get frustrated with having to wait for a long time for streaming of video to resume from where they were kicked out. I say iOS way is way superior without apology.
I just looked at Doubletwise after this post. Smart Playlist support is only on Mac - not Windows. So for me, no Smart Playlists available.
There is iSyncr which will sync off iTunes, but doesn't support folders (which I use a lot).
Stock Android doesn't even have any syncing available at all and no third party apps do smart playlists on Windows without having to tie into iTunes. If I am still using iTunes, why would I move to Android?
Other limitations I found in doubletwist
- searched for podcasts and could not find half of what I subscribe to
- Even though there is airsync to update podcasts you have to manually tell DT to update them - kinda negates the whole purpose of wirelsss syncing. Seems like an "update every x hours" would be easy to do
- Didn't look like on DT I could make folders for playlists to keep for example podcast playlists in one folder and music playlists in another.
All in all doubletwist is interesting, but lacks a lot of the features of iTunes that I use regularly.
I see no way on an Android phone I can get the same media experience that I get on my iPhone (and that is ignoring for now the way multiple iOS devices work together). Media Management and organization on Android is a huge weak spot and one of the biggest things that keeps me from considering a move.
Google itself really need to make something that can compete with iTunes. Google music may eventually be it, but it has a long way to go.
I will give my input as a lifelong Android user.
I have used Android from the Tmobile G1 (First Android phone ever) and gone through many Android phones since. Ive used HTC Hero, HTC EVO, Droid Incredible, Galaxy S, etc.
There are many things Android does better than Iphone but those mainly involve Google specific apps such as maps, goggles, latitude, earth, etc (Which I would expect due to Google powering Android).
However the reason I switched over to Verizon and bought an Iphone when it was released is for the user experience.
Most Android phones have top of the line specs but that does not translate to the OS. Here is my analysis.
1. Most Android phones run skins over the top of the OS and after a while of use these skins start to bog down the phone. Skins like HTC sense, Motoblur, etc they all run great when you first get the phones but after adding many apps, songs, email accounts. The phone starts to slow down a lot. This is especially noticeable after about 5-6 months down the road IMO.
2. The Android Market is not controlled like Apple. Apple has strict limitations on what goes in the App store and for good reason. I cannot tell you the number of times an app would get updated or a new app would be released and it would run horribly on an older phone. The Android Market is great in terms of free available apps and the number of apps but many times when newer apps are released or an app is updated it seems like older phones get left in the dust. With Android it seems to be all about the latest and greatest or your outta luck. When I had my Android phones they would run great but after time when updates to apps or newer apps were released it would sometimes slow down phone or crash it since my phone would be older and the apps would be made for newer phones.
I may be biased here though since I have an I4 and all apps in the App Store are designed for it. Perhaps someone with a 3g or 3gs can chime in and report if this happens with IOS as well in regards to app updates.
3. Continuing with the rant on older phones is how carriers/ phone manufacturers hold phones back in regards to updates. When Google releases a new update for their OS (Froyo, Gingerbread, Ice Cream Sandwich, etc) not all phones get the update. Due to the skins most phone companies put on devices not every phone will get update at same time. My good friend had a Samsung Epic when it was first released and despite specwise being better then the Evo when it was released. The Epic had to wait several months just to get Froyo while my Evo had it a few weeks after release. Basically with Android, unless you have stock pure Android device (Nexus S, Nexus one,etc) then you really dont have any idea when you will receive updates for your phone despite them being available to other models. With Apple I like that when an update is released no matter what everyone usually gets it around the same time. In addition to that their updates support older devices.
4. Ease of use of Android compared to Apple would have to be my last point. On Android there were tons of times I would have to mess with settings or turn off something or just something inconvenient in order to function throughout the day.
For example I usually kept GPS off on my Evo to save battery. Well most times when looking for directions or something I would many times just forget it was off and simply open Google Maps. Then after opening Maps it would tell me I would have to turn on GPS settings so I would have to exit and then find the widget and turn on GPS settings and wait for phone to find GPS satellite(which could take about 20 seconds) while typing directions.
With I4 I simply open Maps and start typing directions. The phone automatically turns on GPS and finds location while I am typing.
Its just simply stuff like that. Maybe it was just an Evo thing but it seemed like a common sense feature that was missing. If I am opening maps why couldnt the EVO just turn on GPS automatically and save me time. Why must it tell me I need GPS setting on in order to use when that is obvious.
Just simple things like that to me where it seems like something that would make sense but it isnt applied in the Android OS. Maybe that was just an HTC Evo specific problem though.
Now I will say that Android has tons of perks to it but that could be another essay altogether.
The bottom line is both OS have their advantages and disadvantages.
All I have stated comes from my personal experience and does not speak for all users.
To me the main difference is Android seems to focus mainly on specs while letting the OS come second which is why there are bugs and GPS issues and what not you hear about. Where as IOS is mostly about delivering on the actual experience with only using the specs necessary to achieve this.
I have used Android from the Tmobile G1 (First Android phone ever) and gone through many Android phones since. Ive used HTC Hero, HTC EVO, Droid Incredible, Galaxy S, etc.
There are many things Android does better than Iphone but those mainly involve Google specific apps such as maps, goggles, latitude, earth, etc (Which I would expect due to Google powering Android).
However the reason I switched over to Verizon and bought an Iphone when it was released is for the user experience.
Most Android phones have top of the line specs but that does not translate to the OS. Here is my analysis.
1. Most Android phones run skins over the top of the OS and after a while of use these skins start to bog down the phone. Skins like HTC sense, Motoblur, etc they all run great when you first get the phones but after adding many apps, songs, email accounts. The phone starts to slow down a lot. This is especially noticeable after about 5-6 months down the road IMO.
2. The Android Market is not controlled like Apple. Apple has strict limitations on what goes in the App store and for good reason. I cannot tell you the number of times an app would get updated or a new app would be released and it would run horribly on an older phone. The Android Market is great in terms of free available apps and the number of apps but many times when newer apps are released or an app is updated it seems like older phones get left in the dust. With Android it seems to be all about the latest and greatest or your outta luck. When I had my Android phones they would run great but after time when updates to apps or newer apps were released it would sometimes slow down phone or crash it since my phone would be older and the apps would be made for newer phones.
I may be biased here though since I have an I4 and all apps in the App Store are designed for it. Perhaps someone with a 3g or 3gs can chime in and report if this happens with IOS as well in regards to app updates.
3. Continuing with the rant on older phones is how carriers/ phone manufacturers hold phones back in regards to updates. When Google releases a new update for their OS (Froyo, Gingerbread, Ice Cream Sandwich, etc) not all phones get the update. Due to the skins most phone companies put on devices not every phone will get update at same time. My good friend had a Samsung Epic when it was first released and despite specwise being better then the Evo when it was released. The Epic had to wait several months just to get Froyo while my Evo had it a few weeks after release. Basically with Android, unless you have stock pure Android device (Nexus S, Nexus one,etc) then you really dont have any idea when you will receive updates for your phone despite them being available to other models. With Apple I like that when an update is released no matter what everyone usually gets it around the same time. In addition to that their updates support older devices.
4. Ease of use of Android compared to Apple would have to be my last point. On Android there were tons of times I would have to mess with settings or turn off something or just something inconvenient in order to function throughout the day.
For example I usually kept GPS off on my Evo to save battery. Well most times when looking for directions or something I would many times just forget it was off and simply open Google Maps. Then after opening Maps it would tell me I would have to turn on GPS settings so I would have to exit and then find the widget and turn on GPS settings and wait for phone to find GPS satellite(which could take about 20 seconds) while typing directions.
With I4 I simply open Maps and start typing directions. The phone automatically turns on GPS and finds location while I am typing.
Its just simply stuff like that. Maybe it was just an Evo thing but it seemed like a common sense feature that was missing. If I am opening maps why couldnt the EVO just turn on GPS automatically and save me time. Why must it tell me I need GPS setting on in order to use when that is obvious.
Just simple things like that to me where it seems like something that would make sense but it isnt applied in the Android OS. Maybe that was just an HTC Evo specific problem though.
Now I will say that Android has tons of perks to it but that could be another essay altogether.
The bottom line is both OS have their advantages and disadvantages.
All I have stated comes from my personal experience and does not speak for all users.
To me the main difference is Android seems to focus mainly on specs while letting the OS come second which is why there are bugs and GPS issues and what not you hear about. Where as IOS is mostly about delivering on the actual experience with only using the specs necessary to achieve this.
ummm..my SGS2 doesn't do any of what you've said....so don't put things that are total crap.......wouldnt surprise me if you've got a apple logo on your knickers...oh and your schoolbag..haha..
reading your post I cant help but ask: why are you here? This is an iPhone forum and you are clearly anti apple and love your SGS2. Nothing wrong with that of course the SGS2 is a great phone, but I still ask: why are you here?
He is here to help Google's mission to assimilate the world. All must be assimilated.
So what you want is no Android users to express their experiences on "what can an iphone do that a android phone cant"?
Although this is an iPhone forum, shouldn't you expect responses from users of other platforms when questions are asked about said platforms?
Perhaps the thread should be renamed "Let's blow smoke up the iPhones arse?" to appease you?
An iPhone will give the user a very pleasant experience and has industry leading battery life performance
All he said is that his GS2 doesn't suffer from lag with every task as the other poster suggested...how does that make him anti-Apple?
Your sig says you had a GS2, so instead of making something up, how about you refute or confirm that it lags with every task? Actually contribute something?
Yeah, cos all of them are made of plastic right?
I haven't seen one made with glass/metal. All of them have plastic backings.
I don't get the reason to even visit here personally. Since I don't have an Android device, I don't have any interest at all in going over and reading and commenting on Android forums. I guess I would rather spend my time reading about the device I have then the device I don't have. Maybe that's just me.
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Then he followed up that comment about his GS2 by taking a potshot at people use use iPhones which made his bias very clear. If all he had said is his GS2 didn't suffer from lag then you would be right, but that is not all he said.
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These forums are an invaluable source of information for people who don't own an iPhone so non iPhone owners should be welcomed.
If you can point me to the rule that you must own an iPhone to post here it'd be most welcomed.
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These forums are an invaluable source of information for people who don't own an iPhone so non iPhone owners should be welcomed.
If you can point me to the rule that you must own an iPhone to post here it'd be most welcomed.
Will you be more detailed on what you want exactly on smart playlist? I know for me if I do some changes on iTunes (ratings or something that changes a smart playlist) double twist will update its playlist that syncs with my phones.
Google Music works pretty good as well keeping everything synced up and as for what is on my phone that is again controlled by Double twist and Google music links up with my Google music account. If I am playing music on my phone I tend to go with Double twist. Stream from the cloud it is Google Music.
As for podcast I tend to use programs like Dog catcher (paid) or Google Listen (Free) that pull off the RSS feeds and download my podcast automatically. Google Listen ties into Google Reader and Dog catcher can pull your feeds from that as well. I like this way for my podcast because the RSS feeds update a heck of a lot faster than iTunes. iTunes it might be 12+ hours after the RSS feed updates.
I will agree in terms of music player iOS is by far the best. Android is good but not as good as iOS. Now my phone keeps everything updated better than my iPod due to Air sync but hopefully iOS5 will improve things a little but I know I will listen to music more on my phone than my iPod since generally when I want to listen to it my phone is with me, iPod not so much.