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DigitalAR

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Hand me downs. my gen 1 iPad has been playing a looping video in a friends shop for around 5 years!
Like 24/7?

How does that work?

Or a long 24 hour video and gotta press play every day?

Or is there a dedicated app for that?
 

mpetrides

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My old iPad mini 5 is mounted on my fridge and serves as a physical control panel for my smart home lighting, locks, temperature/humidity sensors via the Home app.

My 2018 12.9 inch iPad Pro gets used a to display iFit videos while I use my exercise bike. I can also use it to watch movies or TV and to surf the Net while cycling. I could have traded it in but the $300 I would have gotten for it did not warrant the 3 hour drive (each way) to the nearest Apple Store; like other posters I've been burned by Apple's trade-in partner when mailing devices for trade.
 

DigitalAR

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I'm waiting on a new iPad to replace my 1st gen iPad Pro 12.9. The old one is going to be mounted in the kitchen for recipes and entertainment while cooking and cleaning. Now I just need to figure out which mount to buy.
Do let us know which one you do end up getting... that's a unique specific use case and if done right can look great
 
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dialogos

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We often hear on this forum that when Apple stops supporting iOS updates, the devices become insecure. While these devices might not be used for banking, even for light use like browsing or FaceTiming with grandchildren, they still need to be connected to iCloud for photo syncing and other services. Is this secure? On one hand, we hear that devices without update support shouldn't be connected to the internet. On the other hand, I see more and more people using older devices. For example, I have donated all my unused devices to family members and friends.
 

Digitalguy

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I sell them either on a hardware resale site here in Switzerland or on Ricardo (the Swiss version of eBay). I always make good money with them.
I do the same (Ricardo or Anibis), or some second hand shop, but only where they have enough value, I don't sell iPads for, say 20 or even 50 bucks, so if selling means getting peanuts, I keep them at home, generally in a drawer and use them for testing etc.
But I do use some old iPads regularly. My mini 2 is used for 32 bits apps (iOS 10) and my iPad 9.7 pro (which has screen issues) is used for Zoom calls when I teach at university and a students cannot attend in person (but can connect to the class remotely). Thanks to the good speakers the rest of the students can hear them clearly.
 
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Digitalguy

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We often hear on this forum that when Apple stops supporting iOS updates, the devices become insecure. While these devices might not be used for banking, even for light use like browsing or FaceTiming with grandchildren, they still need to be connected to iCloud for photo syncing and other services. Is this secure? On one hand, we hear that devices without update support shouldn't be connected to the internet. On the other hand, I see more and more people using older devices. For example, I have donated all my unused devices to family members and friends.
I use out of support devices with zero issues. iPads are not Windows computers...
 

dialogos

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I use out of support devices with zero issues. iPads are not Windows computers...

I do too, which is why I keep donating them to my family and use an old one myself. But isn’t it here that we keep hearing how unsafe it is?

I believe that Windows with an updated Chrome/Firefox browser is safer than iOS 9 with an outdated version of Safari.

* I am giving as an example iOS9 because one of the member in my family has an iPad 3 just for FaceTime and photos. We do have various iPhone 6 among family members (older people ) with an outdated iOS12
 

TechRunner

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I sell mine on the cheap or give it away to simply get rid of it. My 7th gen is soon to go once I figure out what its replacement will be.

Edit: SellYourMac has been good to me for used Apple devices, so I'll check them first for price.
 
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erasr

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gave my 2018 iPad Pro and pencil to my girlfriend and shes absolutely loving it. She loves art and drawing, so it was the perfect hand down.

obviously this made me feel better about spending £1300 on the new Pro and keyboard 😂
 
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Digitalguy

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I do too, which is why I keep donating them to my family and use an old one myself. But isn’t it here that we keep hearing how unsafe it is?

I believe that Windows with an updated Chrome/Firefox browser is safer than iOS 9 with an outdated version of Safari.

* I am giving as an example iOS9 because one of the member in my family has an iPad 3 just for FaceTime and photos. We do have various iPhone 6 among family members (older people ) with an outdated iOS12
Absolutely not. Any iOS version is safer than any out of support Windows device. Mobile devices and iOS ones in particolare are sandboxed, so the risk of getting malware is much lower. Also most malware target desktop systems and Windows in particular. Most people have no idea about how malware works and what the risks are. Unfortunaltely that's why a lot of hardware goes to waste. Having said that, for some people it's better this way.
Especially on desktop some people tend to get malware all the time even on perfectly up to day systems, simply because they click on any blinking link, on links from spam mail and download pirated software or simply "free" software. These people are more in danger with an up-to-date system than an expert with an out of support Windows device.
 

dialogos

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Absolutely not. Any iOS version is safer than any out of support Windows device. Mobile devices and iOS ones in particolare are sandboxed, so the risk of getting malware is much lower. Also most malware target desktop systems and Windows in particular. Most people have no idea about how malware works and what the risks are. Unfortunaltely that's why a lot of hardware goes to waste. Having said that, for some people it's better this way.
Especially on desktop some people tend to get malware all the time even on perfectly up to day systems, simply because they click on any blinking link, on links from spam mail and download pirated software or simply "free" software. These people are more in danger with an up-to-date system than an expert with an out of support Windows device.

Do you consider it safe to have a device running iOS 12 logged into iCloud? Would you use it for banking with the official bank app?

For instance, the iPhone 6, purchased in 2014, stopped receiving updates a few years ago. In contrast, Windows supports updates for a much longer period.

I am not an expert on how sandboxing works, but I have repeatedly read that if a device no longer receives updates, it should not be used anymore. For those who are not experts but follow forums to learn more, the various differing opinions can be quite confusing.

Once again thank you.
 

Digitalguy

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Do you consider it safe to have a device running iOS 12 logged into iCloud? Would you use it for banking with the official bank app?

For instance, the iPhone 6, purchased in 2014, stopped receiving updates a few years ago. In contrast, Windows supports updates for a much longer period.

I am not an expert on how sandboxing works, but I have repeatedly read that if a device no longer receives updates, it should not be used anymore. For those who are not experts but follow forums to learn more, the various differing opinions can be quite confusing.

Once again thank you.
Absolutely, I run iOS 9 and 10 with iCloud.
Banking apps are the least risky things you could possibly use, on any device and any OS version. Nowadays any banking app has a 2 (or even 3) factor authentication that requires either a code from your phone or biometrics. Even if you have malware on your device with a keylogger (which is a risk on desktop ) the hacker could still do nothing unless they have phyisical access to your phone at the same time.
Hacking banking access only works via social engeneering (e.g. someone calling you pretending they are your banker, asking you to log in, give them the security code you received by sms etc. etc.)
 
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thettareddast

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controller/remote for home automation and other electronics

permanent mount in kitchen for recipes, music player, news streamer, etc

gift to young kids as a simple game device
 

dialogos

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Absolutely, I run iOS 9 and 10 with iCloud.
Banking apps are the least risky things you could possibly use, on any device and any OS version. Nowadays any banking app has a 2 (or even 3) factor authentication that requires either a code from your phone or biometrics. Even if you have malware on your device with a keylogger (which is a risk on desktop ) the hacker could still do nothing unless they have phyisical access to your phone at the same time.
Hacking banking access only works via social engeneering (e.g. someone calling you pretending they are your banker, asking you to log in, give them the security code you received by sms etc. etc.)
Thanks a lot !!!!!!
 

JSRinUK

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I use my original iPad to view a couple of PDF eBooks for reference beside me when I'm training/learning on my main computer. The rest of the time it's a photo frame.

Can't do much else with that old device but it's better than throwing it away.
 
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Greybeard2017

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I never understand why anyone would use Apple's trade partner and have to deal with this risk (unless there isn't an Apple Store where you live).
There was no risk in trade-in. They sent the packing at their expense - they paid for shipping the iPad to them and then they paid for the return shipping when the trade-in offer was changed and refused.

Perhaps this doesn't happen in all locations.
 

ApplesAreSweet&Sour

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I'd donate* them to someone who might never get access to these kinds of devices:

I've given most of my older iPads and iPhones to people who are pressed financially and just need to browse the Internet, check their email, maybe go on Facebook, etc.

While quite slow, most iPads remain usable even when being years past getting any kind of support or updates from Apple.

*I'm not pushing you to be charitable. But I doubt the money you could make by trading these devices in or auctioning them off at eBay, etc., would be worth the effort.

Also, finding some institution or retailer that will "recycle" the device is nowhere near as good for e-waste reduction as handing it over to an individual who will actually use it for a couple of years more.
 
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Digitalguy

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How? So many apps require newer iOS versions.
Oh sure, that's a different issue. The question was about security. App support of course it's worse and I don't use those devices as main devices. On iOS 10 I basically only use 32bit apps that do not run on newer versions and the music app. On iPadOS 13 I only use Safari and Zoom.
 

rui no onna

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Do you consider it safe to have a device running iOS 12 logged into iCloud? Would you use it for banking with the official bank app?

Caveat there, the bank apps I use either require the latest iOS version or just 1-2 versions behind. Often, the only option for something that old is to use the bank’s website instead of the app.
 

dialogos

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Caveat there, the bank apps I use either require the latest iOS version or just 1-2 versions behind. Often, the only option for something that old is to use the bank’s website instead of the app.
At least Deutsche Bank allows iOS 12

PS. Just noticed that Santander as well

PPS. The reason I'm asking is that a family member has an iPhone 6, and it would be very helpful for them to use it for basic transactions. I will follow Digitalguy's advice and recommend using the device normally.
 

BKDad

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I'd donate* them to someone who might never get access to these kinds of devices:

I've given most of my older iPads and iPhones to people who are pressed financially and just need to browse the Internet, check their email, maybe go on Facebook, etc.

While quite slow, most iPads remain usable even when being years past getting any kind of support or updates from Apple.

*I'm not pushing you to be charitable. But I doubt the money you could make by trading these devices in or auctioning them off at eBay, etc., would be worth the effort.

Also, finding some institution or retailer that will "recycle" the device is nowhere near as good for e-waste reduction as handing it over to an individual who will actually use it for a couple of years more.
That kind of institution is just what I'm looking for. Any suggestions?

Decluttr sounded appealing until I read this:

Beware Decluttr

Those comments might not be representative, but, still, there must be better alternatives.
 

FeliApple

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Absolutely, I run iOS 9 and 10 with iCloud.
Banking apps are the least risky things you could possibly use, on any device and any OS version. Nowadays any banking app has a 2 (or even 3) factor authentication that requires either a code from your phone or biometrics. Even if you have malware on your device with a keylogger (which is a risk on desktop ) the hacker could still do nothing unless they have phyisical access to your phone at the same time.
Hacking banking access only works via social engeneering (e.g. someone calling you pretending they are your banker, asking you to log in, give them the security code you received by sms etc. etc.)
I know you’ve said this before, but finally someone dispels this pathetic myth like it should be done! People upgrade and dispose of perfect devices just because of a false sense of security.
 
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FeliApple

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I keep them. They’re great for content consumption even if they aren’t updated. I run my 9.7-inch iPad Pro on iOS 12 without issues.
 
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