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Redjericho

macrumors 6502a
Sep 16, 2011
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The future is in mobile devices, so it is a smart move on microsoft's part. Whether or not they did it too soon is yet to be determined. It's going to depend on their mobile hardware.
 

rbrian

macrumors 6502a
Jul 24, 2011
784
342
Aberdeen, Scotland
I tried the release preview, and if it supported multitouch I'd rather like it. It's a fresh new design, it just needs finishing. It's much much much better than than **** Vista which I have to use at work.

I'd definitely consider a windows 8 tablet, if the price is right.
 

Bilalo

macrumors 6502
Aug 17, 2012
402
2
Oxford, England
Sept 5 new windows 8 phones are coming out, specifically nokia which should be the best so wait up and see but it seems to be breath taking honestly.
 

Sedrick

macrumors 68030
Nov 10, 2010
2,596
26
I tried Windows 8 RP on my laptop when it came out. I stopped using it after a week. It's the first version of Windows I've used seriously that made me think that I might have to stop using Windows and instead move to Mac or Linux.
From what I've seen and read, Windows 8 for the desk top is a big mistake. I've watched video after video in amazement. I honestly don't know what they hell they're thinking. Maybe they think that everyone in the next 6 months is going to buy a touch screen monitor or something. Terrible, just terrible.

Now, for a phone or a tablet, I'm sold. It looks incredible and their proposed eco system looks top notch as well. It will be a force to be reckoned with. If MS doesn't crash and burn for shoving W8 to decktops.

W8 for the desktop is an answer to a question nobody asked.
 

Marine0621

macrumors member
Original poster
Feb 24, 2011
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I don't know how anyone can sit here and say how terrible Windows 8 will be when the majority haven't even used it yet and for those that have, it is just a consumer preview so it's not even the final version. There is no doubt Metro was built for touch and tablet use but from the videos I have watched on YouTube, Microsoft has seemed to work deligently on also integrating Metro for keyboard/mouse use as well. I'm sure there will be a steep learning curve which I hope Microsoft will ease with some form of a tutorial for this. The tablets you use the edges to control the device while they made the 4 corners of a PC monitor the control centers for Metro. Really, this is the best they could have done and it seems like it is well thoughtout. I really can't wait to get my hands on this when it comes out and see how it is. They just opened up a Microsoft store by me. I am planning on going back to VZW since my ATT contract is up on my iPhone 4 and depending on what kind of phones are out with Winodws 8, I may switch.
 

Davy.Shalom

macrumors 6502
Dec 23, 2008
465
1
I dislike the idea of using a mobile operating system on a desktop platform. Although it may be capable, I don't think the UI is intuitive for enterprise clients or people who want to be able to access everything very systematically.

This mobile theme is simple, but perhaps over-simplified for the desktop environment. I'll stick with Win 7 on my PC..

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From what I've seen and read, Windows 8 for the desk top is a big mistake. I've watched video after video in amazement. I honestly don't know what they hell they're thinking. Maybe they think that everyone in the next 6 months is going to buy a touch screen monitor or something. Terrible, just terrible.

Now, for a phone or a tablet, I'm sold. It looks incredible and their proposed eco system looks top notch as well. It will be a force to be reckoned with. If MS doesn't crash and burn for shoving W8 to decktops.

W8 for the desktop is an answer to a question nobody asked.

^ This.
 

Diseal3

macrumors 65816
Jun 29, 2008
1,072
95
Played with it on a virtual machine for about 2 hours. The first 20 minutes was cool, and then I become frustrated as all hell clicking the non existent start menu. You can't just remove the start menu, Its been there since 95!
 

yjchua95

macrumors 604
Apr 23, 2011
6,725
233
GVA, KUL, MEL (current), ZQN
Windows 8 is meant for a touch screen, not a conventional laptop or desktop. Seriously, the Metro interface is a huge turn-off. The Metro UI on my HTC is okay, but on a PC? Oh dear…

This OS wasn't built around a keyboard and a mouse.

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The future is in mobile devices, so it is a smart move on microsoft's part. Whether or not they did it too soon is yet to be determined. It's going to depend on their mobile hardware.

Future is in mobile devices? Pardon me if I'm wrong, but there is no way tablets can completely replace a laptop or a desktop. There's just so many things a tablet can't do compared to a laptop. I made a mistake of carrying just an iPad while away from home for a couple of days and found the iPad so limiting. I couldn't use Photoshop properly and it was lacking in so many things. I couldn't get work done properly on iWork for iOS, largely because of the screen size and several other things.

EDIT: PS Tablets don't have a proper file system either. So it's hard to access files in it.
 
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Redjericho

macrumors 6502a
Sep 16, 2011
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Windows 8 is meant for a touch screen, not a conventional laptop or desktop. Seriously, the Metro interface is a huge turn-off. The Metro UI on my HTC is okay, but on a PC? Oh dear…

This OS wasn't built around a keyboard and a mouse.

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Future is in mobile devices? Pardon me if I'm wrong, but there is no way tablets can completely replace a laptop or a desktop. There's just so many things a tablet can't do compared to a laptop. I made a mistake of carrying just an iPad while away from home for a couple of days and found the iPad so limiting. I couldn't use Photoshop properly and it was lacking in so many things. I couldn't get work done properly on iWork for iOS, largely because of the screen size and several other things.

EDIT: PS Tablets don't have a proper file system either. So it's hard to access files in it.

You are saying mobile devices are not the future because of what they cannot do in the present? Pardon me, but I believe future means "events yet to happen".

Obviously a tablet cannot completely replace a full computer, not yet anyways. But what do you think they made Windows 8 for? It is to bridge the gap even further between mobile and desktop. I can personally gurantee to you that there will be a file system on mobile windows 8 tablets. As far as other functions, such as photoshop, you would be suprised at what Adobe could accomplish if they decided to push the amount of money they spend on desktop-level applications to mobile applications. Of course that would be a terrible business decision because once again, it's a few years until people will realize what mobile devices can do.
 

throAU

macrumors G3
Feb 13, 2012
9,204
7,355
Perth, Western Australia
Great for tablet and phone.

just **** for pc.


This.

I've used the preview and it brings nothing I want to the desktop.

The UI is less efficient, multiple monitor support is garbage, and configuring anything is different for the sake of being different.


Windows 7 will be the new Windows XP that businesses hold onto for as long as possible.

Windows 8 might make an OK gaming or home media operating system, but to get work done it is garbage.


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the UI hasn't changed between customer preview and RTM. I can download RTM right now, as I've got a volume license agreement here at work.

Tablets and PCs have different interface requirements, and trying to make a tablet UI work on the desktop is simply going to end in a bunch of fail, unless the desktop is flat on your desk, and not a monitor with a vertical display at the normal "further than arms length" distance.
 

throAU

macrumors G3
Feb 13, 2012
9,204
7,355
Perth, Western Australia
I don't know how anyone can sit here and say how terrible Windows 8 will be when the majority haven't even used it yet and for those that have, it is just a consumer preview so it's not even the final version.

You do realise the MS "golden master" (final RTM version) has been out for weeks and available to download for microsoft volume license customers for quite some time now?


Again, metro would work if you were to use it on a horizontal surface like a drafting table. Which Microsoft have been working on for years. but a conventional vertical display? No way, it sucks.
 

Dr McKay

macrumors 68040
Aug 11, 2010
3,529
258
Kirkland
Got it, love it. So much faster than Windows 7 and the Start Menu has been replaced by something thats better in almost everyway. I can do so much more with it than I could on the start menu.
 

yjchua95

macrumors 604
Apr 23, 2011
6,725
233
GVA, KUL, MEL (current), ZQN
You are saying mobile devices are not the future because of what they cannot do in the present? Pardon me, but I believe future means "events yet to happen".

Obviously a tablet cannot completely replace a full computer, not yet anyways. But what do you think they made Windows 8 for? It is to bridge the gap even further between mobile and desktop. I can personally gurantee to you that there will be a file system on mobile windows 8 tablets. As far as other functions, such as photoshop, you would be suprised at what Adobe could accomplish if they decided to push the amount of money they spend on desktop-level applications to mobile applications. Of course that would be a terrible business decision because once again, it's a few years until people will realize what mobile devices can do.

Let's get down to practicality then. Touchscreen devices are a pain in the ass when it comes to typing. There's no tactile feeling at all, and you have to face the fact that it can't offer the precision of a mouse. When editing an image on Photoshop iOS on my iPad, I found that using touch wasn't accurate. In the end, I had to settle on waiting to get home and editing the image with a proper mouse on my Mac.

Even with SQL support, I doubt whether businesses will fully migrate to tablets. A tablet just doesn't have the processing power of a desktop. Pardon me if I'm wrong, but using a touchscreen for long hours will be bad for your neck (from looking down at a touchscreen).

Even on touchscreen desktops, I doubt this function will be frequently used because one will get tired from having to stretch out his/her arm to poke around at the screen. A mouse is still far more practical.
 

MagicBoy

macrumors 68040
May 28, 2006
3,968
1,058
Manchester, UK
Windows 8 will likely do well in the corporate market. It ticks a lot of the boxes that make iPads and Android tablets a pain in the proverbial to support in the typical large enterprise and public sector.

It won't make a dent on the desktop. The-interface-thats-no-longer-called-Metro and the lack of a Start Menu means it'll never get any traction. Windows 7 will prevail.
 

maxwelltech

macrumors 6502
Dec 29, 2011
423
104
Irvine, CA, USA
I personally think Windows 8 is horrible. The Metro UI might look good on tablets, but it feels very bad on PCs. It feels very unnatural to use on a non-touch display (the same thing you expect if you use a mouse on an iPad). Some manufacture tried to solve this problem by adding a touchscreen display to some notebooks, but they did not realize that the human arm will get tired after keep touching the display (a problem that Steve Jobs said in his Back to the Mac keynote). The majority of power users are definitely going to use the Desktop app most of the time.
Windows 7 is good enough for the PCs. They should have made Windows 8 tablet-only.
 

damitssam

macrumors 6502
Sep 22, 2009
275
0
Let's get down to practicality then. Touchscreen devices are a pain in the ass when it comes to typing. There's no tactile feeling at all, and you have to face the fact that it can't offer the precision of a mouse. When editing an image on Photoshop iOS on my iPad, I found that using touch wasn't accurate. In the end, I had to settle on waiting to get home and editing the image with a proper mouse on my Mac.

Even with SQL support, I doubt whether businesses will fully migrate to tablets. A tablet just doesn't have the processing power of a desktop. Pardon me if I'm wrong, but using a touchscreen for long hours will be bad for your neck (from looking down at a touchscreen).

Even on touchscreen desktops, I doubt this function will be frequently used because one will get tired from having to stretch out his/her arm to poke around at the screen. A mouse is still far more practical.

Wait for the surface to come out. I think long term second generation of surface that runs full version of windows will be the standard. The keyboard clip on / cover is gonna big hit with biz users IMO.

Goodbye iPad.
 

Rogifan

macrumors Penryn
Nov 14, 2011
24,734
32,198
Windows 8 will likely do well in the corporate market. It ticks a lot of the boxes that make iPads and Android tablets a pain in the proverbial to support in the typical large enterprise and public sector.

It won't make a dent on the desktop. The-interface-thats-no-longer-called-Metro and the lack of a Start Menu means it'll never get any traction. Windows 7 will prevail.

How so considering most big companies are just upgrading to Windows 7 now.
 

thejadedmonkey

macrumors G3
May 28, 2005
9,240
3,499
Pennsylvania
How so considering most big companies are just upgrading to Windows 7 now.

They're upgrading their desktops to Windows 7. The tablets are a completely seperate story.

I played around with it, I liked it, and I'll probably buy two licenses and install it on one of my PC's, either my desktop or laptop, but not both I don't think. As everyone else mentioned it's a superb UI for phones, tablets, and TV's, but I'm not sold yet on the desktop.

Time will tell.
 

Renzatic

Suspended
Yet more people griping that Windows 8 "sucks as a desktop OS".

It's nearly exactly the same as Windows 7, people! Good God. A new Start menu that does the exact same things as the old one but bigger and some bling icons that pop up along the side of the screen aren't exactly huge, fundamental changes to the core way Windows works.
 

Jacooch

macrumors member
Oct 23, 2011
37
0
Yet more people griping that Windows 8 "sucks as a desktop OS".

It's nearly exactly the same as Windows 7, people! Good God. A new Start menu that does the exact same things as the old one but bigger and some bling icons that pop up along the side of the screen aren't exactly huge, fundamental changes to the core way Windows works.

In my exp those "bling icons" you speak of come and go, not intuitive, and just piss me of after a week of trying to like this OS. I will stick with 7 for now, but I think I will go completely apple soon.
 

MagicBoy

macrumors 68040
May 28, 2006
3,968
1,058
Manchester, UK
How so considering most big companies are just upgrading to Windows 7 now.

Perhaps I wasn't crystal clear. Windows 8 will get traction for Surface-type tablets in corporate environments but not on Desktops or Laptops.

My employer are rolling out Windows 7. We're entitled to Windows 8 via software assurance but will not be deploying it as it stands to the PCs/Laptops.
 

Dontazemebro

macrumors 68020
Jul 23, 2010
2,173
0
I dunno, somewhere in West Texas
Windows 7 > win XP >>> Vista >>>> windows 8

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