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I love my pro. The $1000 off from micro center was the clincher for me. I have had only two problems. First was installing bootcamp. After 3+ days and many attempts, and lots of articles courtesy of google I read one that said if you had a external drive and backing up to it to unmount it while installing windows. That was the problem. Second problem is when booting to windows either/neither keyboard or mouse will work. They work maybe 50% of the time. A few here have complained of Bluetooth problems on the Mac side which I don’t have. I’m just hoping it’s the same as they have but on the windows side for me. Neither of my problems are the pros fault so go for it.
 
I wish I could say the same about my iMac Pro experience. I am extremley dissappointed and will probably be requesting a refund tomorrow. I'll start from the beginning.

I ordered an iMac Pro 8 Core Intel Xeon, 128GB RAM, 1TB, 16GB Raedon Vega 64. When I recieved the iMac Pro I noticed a very faint crackly noise in the speaker almost like a static build up but this went away and I thought nothing more of it. I then decided to install Windows 10 via bootcamp which was a pain to install as is but I pursurviered with it and finally got it to install. I then watched a film through windows 10 and the phantom static speaker crackle returned but with a vengance it was so loud! It was extremly random and the issue would go away when i paused and started playing again. However the imac then started to do it much more frequently on an intermittent basis. Then windows 10 after a specific windows update knocked my bluetooth magic accessories off and I managed to get them back up by connecting a magic trackpad by usb and removing the update. Finally fed up I called apple to which Apple Care fobbed me off constantly saying its a software issue its a driver issue and I kept saying that a crackle of that sort would no way be software and if it was software other people with iMac Pro's would be experiencing the same thing. I then after a few days battling with Apple Care advisors demanded a replacement and they shipped a replacement too me. Recieved the new one and returned the faulty one, ONLY TO FIND THAT THE NEW ONE HAS EXACTLY THE SAME ISSUE! Crackly speakers that are so loud it literally hurts my ears. I have been on the phone to apple all of today and am at a loss they are still saying that its software but I have until monday to request a refund on a 7 grand machine but they have referred it to their software engineering department and a response from them could take 2-3 business days!!!! I am utterly disgusted at apple and I feel they have gone down hill as they did not used to be like this. Is anyone else having these kinds of issue's with their iMac Pro's or is it just me.
 
I wish I could say the same about my iMac Pro experience. I am extremley dissappointed and will probably be requesting a refund tomorrow. I'll start from the beginning.

I ordered an iMac Pro 8 Core Intel Xeon, 128GB RAM, 1TB, 16GB Raedon Vega 64. When I recieved the iMac Pro I noticed a very faint crackly noise in the speaker almost like a static build up but this went away and I thought nothing more of it. I then decided to install Windows 10 via bootcamp which was a pain to install as is but I pursurviered with it and finally got it to install. I then watched a film through windows 10 and the phantom static speaker crackle returned but with a vengance it was so loud! It was extremly random and the issue would go away when i paused and started playing again. However the imac then started to do it much more frequently on an intermittent basis. Then windows 10 after a specific windows update knocked my bluetooth magic accessories off and I managed to get them back up by connecting a magic trackpad by usb and removing the update. Finally fed up I called apple to which Apple Care fobbed me off constantly saying its a software issue its a driver issue and I kept saying that a crackle of that sort would no way be software and if it was software other people with iMac Pro's would be experiencing the same thing. I then after a few days battling with Apple Care advisors demanded a replacement and they shipped a replacement too me. Recieved the new one and returned the faulty one, ONLY TO FIND THAT THE NEW ONE HAS EXACTLY THE SAME ISSUE! Crackly speakers that are so loud it literally hurts my ears. I have been on the phone to apple all of today and am at a loss they are still saying that its software but I have until monday to request a refund on a 7 grand machine but they have referred it to their software engineering department and a response from them could take 2-3 business days!!!! I am utterly disgusted at apple and I feel they have gone down hill as they did not used to be like this. Is anyone else having these kinds of issue's with their iMac Pro's or is it just me.
I found the iMac Pro's speakers to be tuned to be a little too bass heavy, but I have never heard the crackle you speak of.
 
It's really strange issue, I didn't use to have these issues on my old iMac another issue that I've been having is the usb ports were sparking on the replacement machine when you attempt to plug a device in via usb. The sound issue is a static like sound that's the only way i can describe it.
 
I really like the performance of my iMac Pro (10-core, 1TB SSD, 128GB RAM, Verga 64). It's around 3x faster at everything compared to my previous MP6,1 (6-core, 1TB SSD, 32 GB RAM, Dual D500s). The TB3 hardware provides excellent i/o performance for me. With my 128GB RAM I can carve out a small region of it as a RAM disk and direct my codes checkpoint files to it at around 5000 MB/s and then resume the code's execution while in the background the checkpoint file in the RAM disk can be copied out to my TB3 media for safe keeping. This save a lot of i/o waitime that my code would otherwise be subject to having to write checkpoint data out to spinning disks.

I have some 52 TB of storage space connected to my iMac Pro, spread over 17 devices. The macOS for the most part handles this very well without issues. This storage ranges from connected, SD card, Thumb drives, USB devices, SSD enclosures, TB1/2/3 devices, Two Docks and a (secondary) 2nd 27" Apple display at times.

I like the Thunderbolt Bridge feature that allows me to connect multiple Macs for file sharing and inter-host communications without having to spend a great deal of money for 10GbE cable(s), adapter(s) and switch(s). This is most useful for our office environment.

I do NOT LIKE Apple's decision to abandon the Startup chime.
 
It's really strange issue, I didn't use to have these issues on my old iMac another issue that I've been having is the usb ports were sparking on the replacement machine when you attempt to plug a device in via usb. The sound issue is a static like sound that's the only way i can describe it.
I don't have an iMP yet, but reading around in a few places I do think there are some software / driver issues that show up in bootcamp. I've seen a few people on bootcampdrivers.com forums talk about similar audio issues to what you are experiencing and tbh I don't think Apple's Windows drivers for the iMac Pro are where they should be.
 
I wish I could say the same about my iMac Pro experience. I am extremley dissappointed and will probably be requesting a refund tomorrow. I'll start from the beginning.

I ordered an iMac Pro 8 Core Intel Xeon, 128GB RAM, 1TB, 16GB Raedon Vega 64. When I recieved the iMac Pro I noticed a very faint crackly noise in the speaker almost like a static build up but this went away and I thought nothing more of it. I then decided to install Windows 10 via bootcamp which was a pain to install as is but I pursurviered with it and finally got it to install. I then watched a film through windows 10 and the phantom static speaker crackle returned but with a vengance it was so loud! It was extremly random and the issue would go away when i paused and started playing again. However the imac then started to do it much more frequently on an intermittent basis. Then windows 10 after a specific windows update knocked my bluetooth magic accessories off and I managed to get them back up by connecting a magic trackpad by usb and removing the update. Finally fed up I called apple to which Apple Care fobbed me off constantly saying its a software issue its a driver issue and I kept saying that a crackle of that sort would no way be software and if it was software other people with iMac Pro's would be experiencing the same thing. I then after a few days battling with Apple Care advisors demanded a replacement and they shipped a replacement too me. Recieved the new one and returned the faulty one, ONLY TO FIND THAT THE NEW ONE HAS EXACTLY THE SAME ISSUE! Crackly speakers that are so loud it literally hurts my ears. I have been on the phone to apple all of today and am at a loss they are still saying that its software but I have until monday to request a refund on a 7 grand machine but they have referred it to their software engineering department and a response from them could take 2-3 business days!!!! I am utterly disgusted at apple and I feel they have gone down hill as they did not used to be like this. Is anyone else having these kinds of issue's with their iMac Pro's or is it just me.
The crackling noise is a driver issue specifically in Bootcamp, but not in OSX. The Bootcamp audio and graphics drivers for the iMac Pro are really bad. Make sure you complain about this to Apple, so they feel more pressure to release drivers that actually work.
 
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I wish I could say the same about my iMac Pro experience. I am extremley dissappointed and will probably be requesting a refund tomorrow. I'll start from the beginning.

I ordered an iMac Pro 8 Core Intel Xeon, 128GB RAM, 1TB, 16GB Raedon Vega 64. When I recieved the iMac Pro I noticed a very faint crackly noise in the speaker almost like a static build up but this went away and I thought nothing more of it. I then decided to install Windows 10 via bootcamp which was a pain to install as is but I pursurviered with it and finally got it to install. I then watched a film through windows 10 and the phantom static speaker crackle returned but with a vengance it was so loud! It was extremly random and the issue would go away when i paused and started playing again. However the imac then started to do it much more frequently on an intermittent basis. Then windows 10 after a specific windows update knocked my bluetooth magic accessories off and I managed to get them back up by connecting a magic trackpad by usb and removing the update. Finally fed up I called apple to which Apple Care fobbed me off constantly saying its a software issue its a driver issue and I kept saying that a crackle of that sort would no way be software and if it was software other people with iMac Pro's would be experiencing the same thing. I then after a few days battling with Apple Care advisors demanded a replacement and they shipped a replacement too me. Recieved the new one and returned the faulty one, ONLY TO FIND THAT THE NEW ONE HAS EXACTLY THE SAME ISSUE! Crackly speakers that are so loud it literally hurts my ears. I have been on the phone to apple all of today and am at a loss they are still saying that its software but I have until monday to request a refund on a 7 grand machine but they have referred it to their software engineering department and a response from them could take 2-3 business days!!!! I am utterly disgusted at apple and I feel they have gone down hill as they did not used to be like this. Is anyone else having these kinds of issue's with their iMac Pro's or is it just me.

It's not just you!

Wow, I had the same issue and just shipped back my iMac Pro yesterday. Will receive a new one next week, the store has a 30 day exchange policy.

I wish I new about this issue before I did a full migration from my old iMac using the Migration Assistant. I wondered if it could have been caused by some conflict. I do not use bootcamp or windows on my Mac.

I called Apple support and they could not figure it out, so I immediately shipped the computer back, not taking any chances. When I receive the new one, of course, this will be the first thing I check. Also, I am not going to use Migration Assistant again.
 
It's not just you!

Wow, I had the same issue and just shipped back my iMac Pro yesterday. Will receive a new one next week, the store has a 30 day exchange policy.

I wish I new about this issue before I did a full migration from my old iMac using the Migration Assistant. I wondered if it could have been caused by some conflict. I do not use bootcamp or windows on my Mac.

I called Apple support and they could not figure it out, so I immediately shipped the computer back, not taking any chances. When I receive the new one, of course, this will be the first thing I check. Also, I am not going to use Migration Assistant again.
Some of the posts state that the crackling sound is specific to Bootcamp and I can't speak to that as I don't have it installed on my machine. There is a static/crackling sound however when adjusting the volume and the volume feedback is on. See my response in other thread you created for a resolution.
 
If there is a static/crackling sound when adjusting the volume in OSX (I haven't tested this myself, as I always turn off OS sound effects), it's probably an OSX software bug. Will check on my iMac Pro.
 
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Some of the posts state that the crackling sound is specific to Bootcamp and I can't speak to that as I don't have it installed on my machine. There is a static/crackling sound however when adjusting the volume and the volume feedback is on. See my response in other thread you created for a resolution.
Floridaman, Thanks! I just replied to you in my other thread, thanks so much!
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If there is a static/crackling sound when adjusting the volum in OSX (I haven't tested this myself, as I always turn off OS sound effects), it sounds like a OSX software bug to me. Will check on my iMac Pro.
Mac32, thank, I look forward to hear if you notice this. I was not aware of that sound option in the settings!
 
It's really strange issue, I didn't use to have these issues on my old iMac another issue that I've been having is the usb ports were sparking on the replacement machine when you attempt to plug a device in via usb. The sound issue is a static like sound that's the only way i can describe it.

I have gone through three iMac Pros with no issue (I just kept upgrading them... no issues with hardware or speakers.)
 
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Then don’t buy it.

Also, why throw pro users like me under your disparaging label bus when we have work to do and needed a solution? I have work to do now, not in a year when the vaporwear Mac Pro hits the market. I also don’t have time to build a hackintosh and deal with making it a stable and productive platform, I am a professional photographer, not an obsessive computer geek.

I just don’t get the need to go on and on and bash equipment on the internet *and* make it seem like I have made an uninformed decision or a bad investment.

To hell with what you think or argue for, I have a life to live, time to use wisely and a spectacularly great career to uphold. For the time being, Apple has made a fantastic product for me to use and if in 3-4 years I feel it’s time to switch gears again all I have to do is spend the money, it’s not a damned organ transplant.

1) There's really no need to get angry.

2) Why do you care what other people think? You should know if you have made a good or bad investment.

3) You are actually confirming what I said. As a photographer your performance requirements are not huge compared to video, 3d, or motion graphics, hence why the iMac Pro is perfect for you. You really don't need a Land Rover.
 
I think thats the issue when these conversations arise. Its all well and good being like "im a pro" "I do this" I do that" literally means nothing to me at all. People think they are power users when in reality they arent... People get very defensive and their experiences are the only thing that matters. It makes sense because thats all they need it for... if it works great.

I think its difficult because until you really hit the wall where machines that are sold as high end video/motion/3d tools and then you put them through their paces with difficult projects and they struggle its incredibly frustrating. A project that can be fluid on a higher end machine and isnt on another machine literally costs days in time.

The fact is yes still images, not a problem these things will blaze it. When you genuinely are working on very intensive motion graphic projects and the machines arent responsive enough to get the work done and have used machines that are far more powerful you understand and what apple offers is hugely hugely lacking for that whole industry. At the same time these sorts of machines are far more niche and cost far more than even a high end iMac pro and its very easy to put the apple bubble around you and start the scaremongering PCs are rubbish they wont work and you will have more downtime.

So what do you do when Apple doesnt sell a machine powerful enough? There is no alternative at all! Nothing. Unfortunately pros have had no choice at but to move on. Like others have said you cant just wait, that doesnt make you money.

This is generally my main gripe, as a modern creative singular fields are a dieing art and if you can manage to make a living doing that one art then hats off. At the end of the day I find myself working across multiple disciplines more and more. Not just expectations but because one design needs to work across so many different outlets. Graphic designers arent just making 2d print media anymore and have to be multimedia designers, photographers are being forced into videography etc etc its just the expansion of the market and the expectation is a lot higher than it was 10 years ago.

For example I made this for Globus in the UK. They are a global leader in PPE manufacturing and I work as a graphic designer, photographer and videographer for them. This project took over 48 hours continuously to render on my mac pro. Cinema 4D was an absolute pig and was so slow during its creation it was hugely frustrating.

When I bought the Dell workstation I ran the same project and it completed it in 5 hours.


The iMac pro will probably output that in a similar time and do all the things I have said above because it is an excellent machine.. Like I said media is advancing more and more and if you dont move with it you get left behind, having to swap the whole machine out for a more demanding job is not my idea of a pro machine pros need more flexible machines.
 
I am on the verge of going to Micro Center and getting the entry level IMac Pro to replace my aging 2010 5,1. I am TIRED of waiting for waiting for the promised modular mac that will certainly be more expensive than I want to spend. Since I have never owned a IMac of any kind how do you do basic house keeping on a IMac Pro. I pop open my cMacPro and clean the dust out every year and I am sure it would have succumbed by now to the dust bunnies if I had not. So long term how do you protect you $6K investment and make it last.

Additional note: Seems like most of the previous posts are about windows / software issues. Why not just get a PC and use it along side your Mac. The apple software works fine except when you try to introduce PC issues that just muddy the water. If you check the Mac Pro Forum. Most of the posts are about trying to get 3rd party add-in to work. I know because the MP forum has been a terrific help keeping my cMP going. But it the reason I am thinking of switching to the iMac Pro.
 
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I am on the verge of going to Micro Center and getting the entry level IMac Pro to replace my aging 2010 5,1. I am TIRED of waiting for waiting for the promised modular mac that will certainly be more expensive than I want to spend. Since I have never owned a IMac of any kind how do you do basic house keeping on a IMac Pro. I pop open my cMacPro and clean the dust out every year and I am sure it would have succumbed by now to the dust bunnies if I had not. So long term how do you protect you $6K investment and make it last.

Additional note: Seems like most of the previous posts are about windows / software issues. Why not just get a PC and use it along side your Mac. The apple software works fine except when you try to introduce PC issues that just muddy the water. If you check the Mac Pro Forum. Most of the posts are about trying to get 3rd party add-in to work. I know because the MP forum has been a terrific help keeping my cMP going. But it the reason I am thinking of switching to the iMac Pro.
I think by just buying an UPS and a cover. You can't easily open the iMac Pro for any cleaning, collecting dust inside is inevitable. Just make sure you will get a configuration suitable for your work needs. (RAM, SSD, etc)
 
what cover?
a dust cover... :)


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I think thats the issue when these conversations arise. Its all well and good being like "im a pro" "I do this" I do that" literally means nothing to me at all. People think they are power users when in reality they arent... People get very defensive and their experiences are the only thing that matters. It makes sense because thats all they need it for... if it works great.

I think its difficult because until you really hit the wall where machines that are sold as high end video/motion/3d tools and then you put them through their paces with difficult projects and they struggle its incredibly frustrating. A project that can be fluid on a higher end machine and isnt on another machine literally costs days in time.

The fact is yes still images, not a problem these things will blaze it. When you genuinely are working on very intensive motion graphic projects and the machines arent responsive enough to get the work done and have used machines that are far more powerful you understand and what apple offers is hugely hugely lacking for that whole industry. At the same time these sorts of machines are far more niche and cost far more than even a high end iMac pro and its very easy to put the apple bubble around you and start the scaremongering PCs are rubbish they wont work and you will have more downtime.

So what do you do when Apple doesnt sell a machine powerful enough? There is no alternative at all! Nothing. Unfortunately pros have had no choice at but to move on. Like others have said you cant just wait, that doesnt make you money.

This is generally my main gripe, as a modern creative singular fields are a dieing art and if you can manage to make a living doing that one art then hats off. At the end of the day I find myself working across multiple disciplines more and more. Not just expectations but because one design needs to work across so many different outlets. Graphic designers arent just making 2d print media anymore and have to be multimedia designers, photographers are being forced into videography etc etc its just the expansion of the market and the expectation is a lot higher than it was 10 years ago.

For example I made this for Globus in the UK. They are a global leader in PPE manufacturing and I work as a graphic designer, photographer and videographer for them. This project took over 48 hours continuously to render on my mac pro. Cinema 4D was an absolute pig and was so slow during its creation it was hugely frustrating.

When I bought the Dell workstation I ran the same project and it completed it in 5 hours.


The iMac pro will probably output that in a similar time and do all the things I have said above because it is an excellent machine.. Like I said media is advancing more and more and if you dont move with it you get left behind, having to swap the whole machine out for a more demanding job is not my idea of a pro machine pros need more flexible machines.

Nice video Tom! Strong work...
 
Like I said media is advancing more and more and if you dont move with it you get left behind, having to swap the whole machine out for a more demanding job is not my idea of a pro machine pros need more flexible machines.

For pete’s sake, I truly give up. Go ahead, tell me what I am, what I need, I won’t be here to listen, I am done with this crap.
 
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I know this is a Mac Pro thread, and that a fair amount is written about the iMac Pro in the iMac forum.

However, I am a longtime 5,1 user, and before that a dual G5, and before that a G4 (mirror doors). I am eyeing the iMac Pro as our household really needs 2 computers and our Mac mini with a 20" ACD is badly in need of updating. Really, the iMac would probably serve our needs ok, but by the time I spec it out, I am close to the discounted iMac Pro. Right now my teenage kids use my 5,1 for Logic and FCPX primarily. The 5,1 is still fine (love the MVC 7970 for FCPX), but I'd really like to get them out of my office :)

My question is this:

If you are a previous Mac Pro owner, and have bought an iMac Pro, I would love to hear your impressions. I have read the professional reviews, but am interested in broader comments. I figure there are a few other window-shoppers gazing jealously in wondering the same thing.

Ah yes, and before anyone scolds me on how bad a deal the iMac Pro is, let's just assume for the purpose of this thread that I can run my own cost-benefit analysis. I'm fairly familiar with what the other options are. I'm not interested in screwing around with a hackintosh, and I've switched to PCs several times before. Not doing that again any time soon. I just want to hear impressions of owners of the iMac Pro.

I say why not get one. It’s the most powerful Mac now, is a sexy all in one design and if looked after will most likely last years, people say it is cool running so Apples thermal solution must be working.
The only things on Macs that degrade over time is the performance for obvious reasons, however you will have one powerful CPU and GPU and you will have he option for an external GPU if it’s needed later in its life.
 
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