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MP 7,1 What does Apple's switch to ARM based processors mean for the future of the Mac Pro
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You mean like all of the brouhaha about Apple moving their Macs to ARM processors?
If only Apple would complete their suite of Pro apps with Adobe CC alternatives. It’s a shame to have a maxed out Mac Pro (2019) that still runs a bloated, poorly written piece of code like Photoshop.
They've gone backwards, actually. When it was launched Aperture was revolutionary. We wouldn't even have Lightroom without it, IMO--it was an obvious Aperture copy.
Yes. Rumour, and speculation as worthless as anything said by a "DarkNet Guy", until it's released.
Life isn't that simple: The super computer you are referring to has more than 7200 cores. Don't you think that adds a 'tiny' bit to the immense speed? Maybe even a bit more than the type of cpu used? You simply can't apply this equation to a personal computer with a few cores.
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As @Adult80HD pointed out: it has more than 7.3 million cores, which proves my point even more.
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You mean 7.3 MILLION cores. And they're specialized compute cores, similar to what the graphics cards makers have built like the MI50 from AMD and Nvidia Ampere.
People seem to confuse the *ability* of an ARM architecture to scale to high-performance tasks with a lot of other things, like whether it makes financial sense for Apple to try and develop a workstation-class ARM processor for a niche market, when it's not likely the software ecosystem will follow, or whether an ARM design that would be more generic like the standard x86 core would be as easily built vs. purpose-built systems (where ARM excels).
All we can do is wait and see......
Oops, my bad. I need new glasses
LOL, well the error actually made your point rather more, well, pointed.
Sitting here smiling considering everything they announced and covered today regarding the switch to ARM is what I said on page one
Nice to see they already have Photoshop and Office running too, not like the PowerPC to Intel transition where we had to wait 2 years for an x86 optimised version of Photoshop.
Nice to see they already have Photoshop and Office running too, not like the PowerPC to Intel transition where we had to wait 2 years for an x86 optimised version of Photoshop.
Yeah, but let's wait and see what they will do with the Mac Pro. It will probably one of the last ones to be updated, and I'm curious to see if its relatively low sales will justify a big enough R&D investment. From everything that was said, they're really all in on SoC, but who knows...
So no new hardware as expected. But good to see their timeline of transition over 2 years to complete the lineup.
I definitely can't wait for a Mac Pro in ARM with the projects I have and will just be happy for the Intel support for years to come as they have mentioned. Time will tell.
I definitely can't wait for a Mac Pro in ARM with the projects I have and will just be happy for the Intel support for years to come as they have mentioned. Time will tell.
I think for sure it means a top to bottom transition or they would have used different language on stage. Mac Pro I think will be last to transition it will require the biggest chip the highest cost the most engineering effort on top of what they've done already.
Adobe has been building their "core" apps for iOS recently, so those should "port" over quickly. They demo'd Photoshop and Lightroom only. I'm not sure the video apps will go as smoothly. Also would have been nice if they released any kind of roadmap plan for "pro" users. Feels like they're being left on the back burner, again.
Sitting here smiling considering everything they announced and covered today regarding the switch to ARM is what I said on page one
Nice to see they already have Photoshop and Office running too, not like the PowerPC to Intel transition where we had to wait 2 years for an x86 optimised version of Photoshop.
Really no surprise on those: You already HAVE Photoshop and Lightroom iPad versions. That's all we have. Office also has and ARM version because well, MS has ARM versions already. So I wouldn't put much weight at all on those apps being listed as ready to go; well, at least the Adobe apps. Their iPad versions of LR and PS are still super lightweight and nowhere near a replacement for the desktop versions.
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They demoed Premiere Pro as well right after and it was smooth with effects applied in real time preview.
They demoed Premiere Pro as well right after and it was smooth with effects applied in real time preview.
I find the statement that you can run iOS or iPadOS apps on the ARM MacOS to be kind of useless fluff. Of course you can, it's all basically the same, but who really wants to? I have a desktop precisely because a tablet and the tablet apps can't/don't do what I need them to.
Sitting here smiling considering everything they announced and covered today regarding the switch to ARM is what I said on page one
Nice to see they already have Photoshop and Office running too, not like the PowerPC to Intel transition where we had to wait 2 years for an x86 optimised version of Photoshop.
I avoided Macs until a couple of years after the switch to Intel, on purpose. I had heard of programs that were incompatible or very buggy using the translation program and didn’t want to buy a machine that was forced to run slower or buggy or not available or any combination of these.
I don’t care what the architecture behind the processors are if it works, and can run the software I already have and what I’m looking to buy. I am curious what software will work, what won’t, and what runs but is painfully slow. It will take a while to get those answers. If the problems are few but the potential performance (for optimized code) is obvious then I’ll interested. If not, I won’t be. I’m not a do or die fan of Apple, but I’m not going to badmouth change either.
I'm in the same boat. One upside is that IF some of the software vendors take a fresh approach, maybe some core software I use will get a performance boost by starting with a cleaner slate of code. The Adobe apps in particular are guilty of being loaded with tons of legacy crap that tends to bog stuff down. The flip side of that is my crap is someone else's crucial feature so it will be interesting to see how this all plays out.