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dmetzcher

macrumors regular
Nov 26, 2005
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NJ
I bought my first Mac (iBook 12") back in March of this year, and have used Windows all my life, so I'm a recent convert. Overall, I have to say that, compared to Windows, Mac is bliss. I prefer the iBook for everything I do, even though I now work on a 12" screen instead of the 21" screen I have hooked up to my XP machine.

To answer your specific questions...

How often does it crash?
- I had a kernel panic once, and it was caused by Norton Utilities. Stay away from Norton software on your Mac. Read about it on the forums. It causes problems.
- I don't see this iBook crash enough to remember, so I'd have to say maybe once every couple months, at most. I hardly every shut it down (I just put it to sleep, which works with Mac, unlike with Windows), and I take it everywhere, every day. If I don't have to install system updates that require a reboot, I'd say I reboot the thing maybe once every 10-15 days. It's always running.
- Occasionally an app will stop responding or crash altogether. Unlike with Windows, my OS doesn't go down in flames with it. I get a little message that says XYZ app has just crashed and I'm asked if I would like to open it again.

How often do you feel compelled to reinstall the system?
- With Windows, every six months to a year (I would have already done this on the XP machine except that I hardly use it anymore, so who cares?). With the iBook, I have not felt compelled to do this yet. I doubt I will feel so compelling any time within the next six months or so. Maybe a year from now, when the next OS version is released.

How do your non-computer professional family members handle OS X?
- No one else really uses this machine, so this question is going to go in a different direction. Every time I have shown people this iBook and the Mac OS in action, they have drooled. They are mostly Windows users - hardcore Windows users - and someone I work with is prepared to get his first Mac as a result of seeing what I can do, how fast I can do it, and how cool it looks when I do it.

Do you still keep a Windows machine around and why?
- Yes. I keep it around because I don't want to not know how to use Windows. Also because I need it for certain things (like QuickBooks Online Edition, which only runs on IE on a Windows machine). I also keep it because there is almost 300 GB of storage capacity on the thing, and I have a lot of files taking up much of that space. I haven't gotten a desktop Mac, so the Windows machine stays for that reason as well.

What annoys you the most?
- Certain things, like moving through text with the keyboard not being consistent across all applications (i.e. - Command+Right Arrow moves to the end of the line in some apps, and to the next word in others), annoy me. Mostly, it's just the little differences. What annoys me the most is when I go to use my Windows PC and I press Command+Q to quit an app, forgetting (because it's second nature and makes so much sense on a Mac) that I'm not using my Mac. You start to see why things are the way that they are on the Mac when you find yourself doing them on the PC without thinking. I have not had the reverse problem. I seem to have unintentionally adopted all the keyboard shortcuts of the Mac because they make the most sense, overall.

Would you ever switch back?
Never. Unless Apple bought Microsoft (or someone else did) and decided to give the OS a complete and total overhaul. I'll stick with both a Windows and Mac machine right now, and for the next few years, at least, however.

Would you quit a job that wanted to make you switch back?
- I doubt that any company I worked for would care what I used at home. In fact, I own my own small business (and work for another company), and I use this iBook for everything (except the previously mentioned QuickBooks Online Edition). But, if any company ever required that I not own a Mac, I would quit without notice. That type of invasion into my life is not worth any amount of money they could offer.

What OS did you use before OS X (non Apple OSs) ?
- Windows.
- I went to a media arts school, so Mac and Windows were both used there. That was back in the Mac OS 7.x and 8.x days.

What is your profession; or area of study if a student?
- I work in telecommunications, programming automated call distribution systems for companies with inbound call centers. I also have a small business that offers Web hosting and will soon be branching out into small-scale Mac development.

I hope my answers help you out. If in doubt, do what I did and grab a 12" iBook or a Mac mini. Both are cheap, and you can choose between a desktop or notebook model. You can see how things go, and then get a PowerMac or PowerBook. You can even sell your first Mac and get at least half the purchase price on eBay after a few months.

I'm not sure, because I'm new to this particular forum, if self-promotion is allowed (I think it should not be, in most cases), but my personal Web site might be of interest to a potential switcher like you. The link is in my signature below. I only stoop to this low level and offer it because it seems to fit in with what you are asking.
 

cblackburn

macrumors regular
Jul 5, 2005
158
0
London, UK
Lets hear the dirty laundry =)

How often does it crash?

Once in 2 years

How often do you feel compelled to reinstall the system?

Never

How do your non-computer professional family members handle OS X?

Much better than when they try to fathom Windows

Do you still keep a Windows machine around and why?

No, although I'm tempted to run dual boot if/when I get an Intel Mac so I can if I have to.

What annoys you the most?

Lack of updates to the powerbook line although I hope this is temporary *prays*.

Would you ever switch back?

It would take a *very* good reason

Would you quit a job that wanted to make you switch back?

Depends on what kind of pay cut I wuld have to take but probably not. I would feel my time would be better spend converting the office to mac :).

What OS did you use before OS X (non Apple OSs) ?

Windows (*shudder*), Linux (still use this one), Lots of assorted unices.

What is your profession; or area of study if a student?

I'm in my first year of study at University College London, reading Electrical and Electronic Engineering with Communications and Nanotechnology.

Chris
 

InfiniteLoop1

macrumors member
Sep 25, 2005
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How often does it crash?
I had a Kernel panic once when some idiot pulled out the CD drive, i dont mean ejected it but pulled the flap on the old Powerbook, see sig. i nearly killed him...

How often do you feel compelled to reinstall the system?
when i update the OS

How do your non-computer professional family members handle OS X?
Fine, my mum used to need a sheet so she could play a CD in iTunes, but she has a book telling her how to ring people on her mobile phone. She doesnt need that sheet anymore and can email/search the web quite happily!

Do you still keep a Windows machine around and why?
No dont have one, i was born into a mac family and therefore dont have a PC, i want one though to fiddle around on, get to know the OS, cos i want to work in IT and i figure ill have to work with Windows!!!

What annoys you the most?
The fact that my laptop only has one mouse button...

Would you ever switch back?
no, well i guess it would be called switchng as i cant switch back to something i have never been apart of before!

Would you quit a job that wanted to make you switch back?
no, as others said, i would use a C at work and my mac at home

What OS did you use before OS X (non Apple OSs) ?
been with mac all my life

What is your profession; or area of study if a student?:eek: :eek: :eek:
student, still at school:eek:
 

maestro55

macrumors 68030
Nov 13, 2005
2,708
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Goat Farm in Meridian, TX
This isn't really fair, as I don't use a mac as my main computer, but having been around macs and using them daily at school and using them for simple tasks at home, I will answer these questions:

How often does my system crash? Well over the course of me being around mac computers, I have seen them crash just like any other machine. However, it is usually caused by third party software. I find that it doesn't crash as near as many times as any Windows system I use, and OS X is as stable as Linux, but OS 9.1 and prior were not.

How often do you feel compelled to reinstall the system? Well, one mac is from March 2004 (it is a lot older than that, that is just when I got a hold of it) and I did a system reinstall then, but haven't since then. The other from Feb 2005 is the same way.

How do your non-computer professional family members handle OS X? Non of my other family members use OS X, besides my dad who is a professional.

Do you still keep a Windows machine around and why?
Yes, I have an IBM Thinkpad 390X running Windows XP. Now if I had a new mac, I wouldn't use this machine as often, but I would still have it around. I believe that Windows does have its uses, and though it is a horrible OS I will always have atleast one Windows machine. Depending on how much I use it depends on what software I can get on a Mac.

What annoys you the most?
The fact that I can't currently afford a new Powerbook.. but that is a personal problem.

Would you ever switch back?
I have been a mac user for years, I have gone back in forth over the years. I am diverse in what I use. Mac OS is just another one of those Operating Systems for me to use. Given, it is my favorite, I just don't have a faster mac now.

Would you quit a job that wanted to make you switch back?
No, I will be going into Networking and so I am sure I will be using Linux or Windows for my networking stuff. Sure I might be able to do some stuff on the mac and of course the mac Powerbook would be my personal laptop, but I would use whatever machines I had to at work.

What OS did you use before OS X (non Apple OSs) ?
Windows: 95, 98, 98SE, XP Pro
Linux: Slackware 9.1/10, Red Hat 7.1, 7.3, 9, Fedora Core 1, SuSe 9.1, Knoppix, PHALK, Ham Knoppix


What is your profession; or area of study if a student?
Senior in High School... Will begin the Texas State Technical College in Fall 2006 (Majoring in Networking Security Technology, and Computer Networking Systems Administration)
 

jefhatfield

Retired
Jul 9, 2000
8,803
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Kraythe said:
Lets hear the dirty laundry =)

How often does it crash?
How often do you feel compelled to reinstall the system?
How do your non-computer professional family members handle OS X?

Do you still keep a Windows machine around and why?
What annoys you the most?
Would you ever switch back?

Would you quit a job that wanted to make you switch back?
What OS did you use before OS X (non Apple OSs) ?
What is your profession; or area of study if a student?

my nine answers:

1) os 9 crashes about the same as windows 98, os x is the most stable os i have seen
2) i have reinstalled os 9 on my g3 ibook once in the 5 years i used it daily
3) the only other person in my household is my wife, a certified techie like me, and she likes os x

4) i keep a windows 98 machine around and i never use it anymore
5) i was annoyed at os x because it was so different than os 9, but now i am ok
6) i will never switch back unless apple inc goes out of business

7) my job involves fixing the pc and all jobs before that were windows based if it involved a computer
8) i have used windows 2000, 98, and 95 before os x
9) i am in the pc computer repair business 6 yrs and before that i could use a mac with ease, but the pc gave me headaches mostly because i found the design of windows somewhat counterintuitive
 

jefhatfield

Retired
Jul 9, 2000
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Kraythe said:
As background Im a senior software architect and O'Reilly author so I know my way around computers; feel free to spit out the technical terminology. I have used windows and several variants of unix heavily but havent used macs since the mac classic days.

and since we are well into this thread, i hope you have bought a mac ;)

i love the technical books you guys put out, so consider writing one about the mac and put a pretty little sketch of some animal on the cover :)
 

California

macrumors 68040
Aug 21, 2004
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How often does it crash?

What's a crash?

Oh, yeah, I remember. My first Titanium Powerbook used to crash -- i.e. stop working or freeze sometimes under OS 9.1.

But, this has not happened to me since. And that was 2001.

And before that, I recall it happening once using OS 7.5 in 1997 on a powerbook 145b; but that was because the Kingston ram addition had failed.

The other "crash" I had was on the first Tibook but that was because the Fujistu hard drive failed.

NO "Crashes" on current fleet of ibooks, powerbooks, imacs.


How often do you feel compelled to reinstall the system? "Compelled" only by updates or wanting to jump from Panther to Tiger, or when I get a new hard drive. I don't get "compelled".


How do your non-computer professional family members handle OS X? Happily. With amazement.

Do you still keep a Windows machine around and why? Never owned one since 1989 so I have no idea what you are talking about. The last and only time I touched a WIndoze machine was in the year 1985 and that was before PCs had Windows, it was still a lot of code.

What annoys you the most? About Macs? Uh, I guess the fact that there are people who don't get macs and don't understand why they are great.

Would you ever switch back? I never switched in the first place. Oh, I guess you could say I switched from "IBM" but that was from the top of the line IBM Selectric typewriter that was the vogue before personal computing. We also had a very cool Eames era IBM electric typewriter from 1959. Still worked. VERY cool.

Would you quit a job that wanted to make you switch back? Switch back to what -- and what do you think I do for a living that would force me to use a computer I didn't want to use?

What OS did you use before OS X (non Apple OSs) ? Typewriter font balls.
 

nbomar

macrumors newbie
Sep 10, 2005
7
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How often does it crash?
I had my fair share of crashes, but only when using my usb loader drivers (a sagem f@st 800... never ever buy this peace of crap)

How often do you feel compelled to reinstall the system?
never

How do your non-computer professional family members handle OS X?
My best friend (who is not a techie) hooked up instantly. I just had to explain to him the on-button-mouse thingy (which he liked anyway)

Do you still keep a Windows machine around and why?
nope. If you want to play buy a console.

What annoys you the most?
on a general frame, windows xp

Would you ever switch back?
never to a microsoft os

Would you quit a job that wanted to make you switch back?
No. But even so i would keep my mac for personnal use

What OS did you use before OS X (non Apple OSs) ?
windows 3.11, 95, 98, xp. Mandriva linux 10.0

What is your profession; or area of study if a student?
student in medicine
 

hubristol

macrumors regular
Nov 28, 2005
102
0
How often does it crash?
>The computer itself hardly crashes but various programs (mainly Safari) do semi-frequently. Then again, i'm running Tiger on a computer with only 384 Megs of RAM.

How often do you feel compelled to reinstall the system?
>Never, really.

How do your non-computer professional family members handle OS X?
>About half of my family has switched to macs (admittedly, my dad and I were always mac fans). The other PC-loving members can use it fairly well.

Do you still keep a Windows machine around and why?
>Nope

What annoys you the most?
>The price

Would you ever switch back?
>I was never a Windows user in the first place

Would you quit a job that wanted to make you switch back?
>Not really. I think that'd be a little excessive unless using a mac was integral to what I had to do.

What OS did you use before OS X (non Apple OSs) ?
>Windows XP, 95, 98, etc.

What is your profession; or area of study if a student?
>Film and Photography
 

jakochampolska

macrumors 6502
Jul 31, 2005
324
0
How often does it crash?
It crashed 3 times in one day, a couple days ago.
How often do you feel compelled to reinstall the system?
Never thought of doing that yet
How do your non-computer professional family members handle OS X?
my cousins dont like it, and my parents never handled OS X
Do you still keep a Windows machine around and why?
Yes, my its my parents computer
What annoys you the most?
My pb is really slow, and its not even a month old!
Would you ever switch back?
Most likely not, I love this little computer and the whole layout of the OS X
Would you quit a job that wanted to make you switch back?
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I dont know how to answer this haha
What OS did you use before OS X (non Apple OSs) ?
windows
What is your profession; or area of study if a student?
I'm an art high school student :)
 

Will_reed

macrumors 6502
May 27, 2005
289
0
There is only one thing I don't like about my 17inch powerbook g4.
I can't playback 1080p in real time
 

4God

macrumors 68020
Apr 5, 2005
2,133
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My Mac
Kraythe said:
What DONT you like about your mac?

Not fast enough for the money spent. That's o.k. though, I'm getting an iMac that I know will be perfect for me. :)
 

mkrishnan

Moderator emeritus
Jan 9, 2004
29,776
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Grand Rapids, MI, USA
fuzzwud said:
my powerbook fan is noisy... it doesn't stop purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrring

Is it on 100% of the time, or just in bursts? That's strange. Well, I don't know about older Macs. But I thought (MBP issues aside) that the AluBooks and know that the iBooks only use the fans at times of peak usage. I hear my fans sometimes, but it's less than 10% of the time... unless I do a lot of heavy work on it while it's on top of the couch (and not being properly ventilated :eek: ).
 

macEfan

macrumors 65816
Apr 7, 2005
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the only thing I dont like is that my powermac g4 only has 3 ram slots... I want 4+.. the more the better.. I dont like buying 512MB PC 133 ram becuase its so expensive.. So that leaves my computer with only 3x 256mb... Also, the computer is kind of noisy...
 

freeny

macrumors 68020
Sep 27, 2005
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Location: Location:
How often does it crash?
my laptop at home never does. My work tower crashes about once a week

How often do you feel compelled to reinstall the system?
once a year

How do your non-computer professional family members handle OS X?
???

Do you still keep a Windows machine around and why?
Never had one

What annoys you the most?
apps from old OS's no longer usable

Would you ever switch back?
Been a mac user from the beginning.

Would you quit a job that wanted to make you switch back?
I am currently at a job that requires occasional use of a pc. I do fight it.:D

What OS did you use before OS X (non Apple OSs) ?
none

What is your profession; or area of study if a student?
Graphic designer/animator
 

fowler.

macrumors 6502a
Apr 18, 2004
585
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Pasadena
How often does it crash?
Not very. I think my phone caused most of the crashes.. for some reason, osx didn't like my K750.

How often do you feel compelled to reinstall the system?
When I upgrade, I format and install. Or when things get really cluttered. I think it's ocd more than anything else.

How do your non-computer professional family members handle OS X?
Fine. I only have my mom and we've both been using it since 10.x

Do you still keep a Windows machine around and why?
Negatory.

What annoys you the most?
On my old G5, the heat.

Would you ever switch back?
Switch back to OS9? Probably not.

Would you quit a job that wanted to make you switch back?
I wouldn't quit a job because they made us us Windows. But I wouldn't go for a graphics job that was all PC based.

What OS did you use before OS X (non Apple OSs) ?
OS9.

What is your profession; or area of study if a student?
Art Director/Graphic Designer/student.
 

wkhahn

macrumors member
Dec 5, 2005
52
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standing over your shoulder
Switched 3 1/2 yrs ago

Kraythe said:
How often does it crash?
My G3 iBook had some logic board problems about a year and a half ago. Other than that, it has never crashed. (knocks on desk)

Kraythe said:
How often do you feel compelled to reinstall the system?
Once. Upgrading from 10.2 to 10.3. Will again this weekend with an install of 10.4

Kraythe said:
How do your non-computer professional family members handle OS X?
My wife loves it. Can't imagine hainvg to use a PC. My mother in law commonly calls with question of can I do this or that, becaseu she can't figure out how to make windows do it. When she comes over, she is amazed at how simple and intuitve it is to figure out on the Mac.

Kraythe said:
Do you still keep a Windows machine around and why?
Not at home. Anything I want to do at home I can with the Mac. Have 1 at work. Required for CAM programming.

Kraythe said:
What annoys you the most?
Really minor thing, I would like to see a keyboard shortcut for fast user switching. Maybe its just something I've overloked.

Kraythe said:
Would you ever switch back?
Not for home. I have to deal with them at work, and do not want to have to work at home too.

Kraythe said:
Would you quit a job that wanted to make you switch back?
No. I can eat because of a job, not an OS preference.

Kraythe said:
What OS did you use before OS X (non Apple OSs) ?
All flavors of Windows, and HP-UX.

Kraythe said:
What is your profession; or area of study if a student?
Manufacturing & Quality Engineer, Database Admin.

I hope you find this information helpful in your research.
 

risc

macrumors 68030
Jul 23, 2004
2,756
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Melbourne, Australia
Kraythe said:
Lets hear the dirty laundry =)

How often does it crash?
How often do you feel compelled to reinstall the system?
How do your non-computer professional family members handle OS X?
Do you still keep a Windows machine around and why?
What annoys you the most?
Would you ever switch back?
Would you quit a job that wanted to make you switch back?
What OS did you use before OS X (non Apple OSs) ?
What is your profession; or area of study if a student?

In order

It doesn't.

I reinstalled when Tiger was released, and once again when I got a new system drive.

My GF has an iMac G5 and she uses it like any other modern computer with a keyboard and mouse.

I have a Media Center PC here just because I can. I have TV (etc) on my Mac too, the Mac isn't as integrated but the TV quality and software for using it is much nicer. I also have server hardware here running Windows 2003 Server and CentOS 4 (Red Hat Enterprise Linux clone) for work purposes.

Other than the extremely arrogant hardware prices I have no problems with Macs.

Switch back? I'll use the best tool for the job sometimes it is Windows, sometimes Linux, most of the time OS X.

I work with all of the OSes I mentioned above so no I wouldn't quit a job because I had to use Windows. I do use Windows (Server) and I get paid enough to stay there.

Linux, FreeBSD, and NetBSD were the 3 main OSes used at my house before I bought a Mac.

System Engineer specializing in Network Operating Systems and Server Hardware.
 

ipacmm

macrumors 65816
Jun 17, 2003
1,304
0
Cincinnati, OH
The only thing that I do not like about my Mac is that Apple quality has gone really down over the years and I have more hardware issues....
 
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