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hallux

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There is also this, in relation to Android in the enterprise - Android – Android Enterprise Recommended Requirements

Bottom line, for Enterprise certification the device needs to be on "N-1" OS level (currently Nougat or 7.0) and still receive security updates AT LEAST every 90 days. Of course, the major manufacturers will strive for that goal on the flagship devices, but the budget realm will still not benefit from this.
 

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There is also this, in relation to Android in the enterprise - Android – Android Enterprise Recommended Requirements

Bottom line, for Enterprise certification the device needs to be on "N-1" OS level (currently Nougat or 7.0) and still receive security updates AT LEAST every 90 days. Of course, the major manufacturers will strive for that goal on the flagship devices, but the budget realm will still not benefit from this.
If a major federal law enforcement agency issues Android devices than I would say it is secure.
 

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Yeah, because the Federal government is a paragon of technological forward thinking. :rolleyes:
Considering who my agency is and what they do I would say it is a good indication of what devices are secure. But I understand what you're saying because I was in IT when I was on active duty and still am in IT in a reserve component. Your statement isn't entirely correct but it isn't entirely wrong either.
 
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Dodgeman

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You will be back. iOS will start to call you after around 3-6 months. It does me as well as many on here. I had the Note 8, and now going back to the X.

That happened to me and has been happening. Would've switched but the cost of the X got me qnd the fact I couldn't get everything switched over.
Wish I had a Macbook and just had purchased that and switched to another iPhone. I like my Note 8 but do miss a few things about apple.
At the end of the day they are all phones with pros/cons from each.
 

Shanghaichica

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That happened to me and has been happening. Would've switched but the cost of the X got me qnd the fact I couldn't get everything switched over.
Wish I had a Macbook and just had purchased that and switched to another iPhone. I like my Note 8 but do miss a few things about apple.
At the end of the day they are all phones with pros/cons from each.
This is why I always keep hold of my iPhone when I pick up the latest Samsung phone. I have so many Apple products that I can’t do without my iPhone. I do like to try out the latest Samsung phones every year but I like the safety and comfort of my Apple ecosystem. I lasted 3 months with the note 8 last year. I’m hoping to actually keep it long term this time and I’ll be upgrading my X to the X plus.
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You will be back. iOS will start to call you after around 3-6 months. It does me as well as many on here. I had the Note 8, and now going back to the X.
I don’t leave lol I always keep hold of my iPhone.
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Yeah, because the Federal government is a paragon of technological forward thinking. :rolleyes:
They might be issuing cheaper android devices so it might be a cost thing. But still they could issue the iPhone SE.
 
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Sciomar

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If that were true then my agency would not issue Android devices to special agents and we would all be using an iOS device. Educate yourself

You can encrypt Android devices and educate people in what they should do with their devices, even implement policies on how the devices are allowed to interact over the air. Out of the box though, Androids are very weak compared to iOS in protection. Go to DEF CON or just watch some videos, it's very common place to see them breaking into Androids. Agencies aren't issuing store bought devices, they're hardened (hopefully), and if they aren't then said agents aren't as valuable data-wise. Then it comes to cost analysis and tactical risk, which one is the leadership willing to budge on.

There are also further encrypted iOS devices out and about that blow the Androids out of the water in protection.
 

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They might be issuing cheaper android devices so it might be a cost thing. But still they could issue the iPhone SE.
My agency issued me a Samsung Galaxy S8 but now they are issuing the S9 so they aren't cheap Android devices although I would prefer a BlackBerry DTEK
You can encrypt Android devices and educate people in what they should do with their devices, even implement policies on how the devices are allowed to interact over the air. Out of the box though, Androids are very weak compared to iOS in protection. Go to DEF CON or just watch some videos, it's very common place to see them breaking into Androids. Agencies aren't issuing store bought devices, they're hardened (hopefully), and if they aren't then said agents aren't as valuable data-wise. Then it comes to cost analysis and tactical risk, which one is the leadership willing to budge on.
I think my agency uses Samsung Knox but I could be mistaken. The law firm my parents work at either are using BlackBerry's new encryption or are about to start testing it on their BYOD. Whatever is used I know it is encrypted
There are also further encrypted iOS devices out and about that blow the Androids out of the water in protection.
Which iOS devices
 

Tsepz

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I have iPhone 5 and plan to buy a Huawei Mate 10 Pro. I wonder what are the features will I not be able to find in a Android phone? For example, how do I share location with my family members that all use iPhone?

Thanks for any suggestions,
Much like someone coming from a BlackBerry back in the early 2000s with BBM, you'll probably just miss iMessage, but you will gain a whole lot of other features and find a suitable messaging app anyway. :)
 
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Much like someone coming from a BlackBerry back in the early 2000s with BBM, you'll probably just miss iMessage, but you will gain a whole lot of other features and find a suitable messaging app anyway. :)
Like BBM.
 

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Much like someone coming from a BlackBerry back in the early 2000s with BBM, you'll probably just miss iMessage, but you will gain a whole lot of other features and find a suitable messaging app anyway. :)
I miss BBM! None of my friends who used BBM still use BBM it's sad because it was fun besides having to re-add people when you got a new BlackBerry
 

Ffosse

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I would say the seamless polish of iOs. You shouldn't miss anything in terms of the available apps. And updates...coming from an iPhone 5 you must have noticed how long it was supported for. With Android you just don't know.
 

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Many Android phones, Pixel, Essential and others offer two years system, three for security.

With Treble support and with “P” on near horizon it should be fine. Security updates quarterly should give more time for testing and regularity though an out of cycle critical updates wouldn’t be ruled out.

Got the July update yesterday on Essential and also rolled into kaster P beta.
 

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Many Android phones, Pixel, Essential and others offer two years system, three for security.

With Treble support and with “P” on near horizon it should be fine. Security updates quarterly should give more time for testing and regularity though an out of cycle critical updates wouldn’t be ruled out.

Got the July update yesterday on Essential and also rolled into kaster P beta.
Essential? That company is essentially over.
The other? OnePlus has just announced their official stand, but only offering bi-monthly security updates.

The only sure ones are either Google Pixel 2, or Android One phones, and they don't represent "Many Android Phones."
For the premium people are paying for Google Pixel, it's a rip off. I can spend much less on a cheap Xiaomi, get a new phone every year, and never have to worry about updates while still saving money.
 
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Essential? That company is essentially over.
The other? OnePlus has just announced their official stand, but only offering bi-monthly security updates.

The only sure ones are either Google Pixel 2, or Android One phones, and they don't represent "Many Android Phones."
For the premium people are paying for Google Pixel, it's a rip off. I can spend much less on a cheap Xiaomi, get a new phone every year, and never have to worry about updates while still saving money.
Exactly. The Nexus line was great value for money but the Pixels have me scratching my head. I would never spend that big on a Google-branded product. As for updates...meh. I go out of my way to avoid them. Why break, slow down or ruin the battery life of something that works perfectly?
 

Shanghaichica

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Essential? That company is essentially over.
The other? OnePlus has just announced their official stand, but only offering bi-monthly security updates.

The only sure ones are either Google Pixel 2, or Android One phones, and they don't represent "Many Android Phones."
For the premium people are paying for Google Pixel, it's a rip off. I can spend much less on a cheap Xiaomi, get a new phone every year, and never have to worry about updates while still saving money.
But my Samsung flagship device will get 2 major software updates and 3 years of security updates. Only thing is that they will take longer to reach my S9 than a pixel.
 

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Exactly. The Nexus line was great value for money but the Pixels have me scratching my head. I would never spend that big on a Google-branded product. As for updates...meh. I go out of my way to avoid them. Why break, slow down or ruin the battery life of something that works perfectly?
And that is why I avoid updates after apple throttled the processor on my iPhone 6s Plus
But my Samsung flagship device will get 2 major software updates and 3 years of security updates. Only thing is that they will take longer to reach my S9 than a pixel.
For that I blame Google and the OEMs for allowing the carriers to "test" the software. Since the Galaxy S7 or S8 the hardware has been the same in the US so that is unnecessary. If anything it is the carriers not pushing updates to entice customers to get a new phone much like apple did by throttling the processor in older phones
 
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SteveJUAE

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I'm not sure what the hype is all about having support for ~5 years

Sure there are people on a budget, but they would of more likely opted for a lower budget device in the 1st instance or maybe you are gifting your old iPhone on to a family member or friend

So your iPhone 5S is worth about $30 as an Apple trade in, you are likely to have had at least 1 if not 2 batteries, gone through several IOS updates that has had ups and downs (YMMV) and now have a device that cannot support many of the new features most take for granted now

5 years sounds good on paper but reality can well be vastly different IMO. I'm not knocking Apple for giving some users more options and potentially longer support but if there was ever mutton dressed as lamb

Surprisingly some original features on your iPhone 5S is rumoured to run better on IOS12 which is an improvement over IOS11, so it's not all that bad

The smart money and budget conscious are buying refurbs and trading up every 2 or 3 years for another refurb or lower budget device with full warranty etc every 2 or 3 years for greater peace of mind

Given many security threats are malware/web based a good antivirus that is updated daily regardless of device age makes sense where stressing out over some patch on a geeky vulnerability that you have not received that most would never stumble across
 
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But my Samsung flagship device will get 2 major software updates and 3 years of security updates. Only thing is that they will take longer to reach my S9 than a pixel.
At the price you’re paying for a Samsung, if I were you, I would expect longer and more timely support. Seriously, an Android One phones at less than half of the cost of your premium Samsung have better support. Do you really feel that Samsung logo is worth the extra premium? Nothing wrong if you feel that though.
 

Shanghaichica

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At the price you’re paying for a Samsung, if I were you, I would expect longer and more timely support. Seriously, an Android One phones at less than half of the cost of your premium Samsung have better support. Do you really feel that Samsung logo is worth the extra premium? Nothing wrong if you feel that though.
It’s worth the extra money because of the superior hardware and wider availability of accessories.
 
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