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ww2_1943

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Utilising the App Passwords feature of Google Accounts, I connected my email account to Thunderbird 3 on my G4. Still works perfectly!
Did you have to change your gmail to "less secure" for that to work? Do you happen to have a link to download Thunderbird 3?
 

dpny

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Jan 5, 2013
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Are you running the AirPort card in tandem with the white, T-shaped antenna mounted to the rear of the case? I lacked one of these, so I ended up using a real kludge of a fix: a half-unwound paper clip. It worked, but it wasn’t particularly fast.

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I don't have the antenna, so no. I do remember seeing these around, 20 years ago.
 
I don't have the antenna, so no. I do remember seeing these around, 20 years ago.

If you plan to use the in-board, 802.11g AirPort Extreme card on your A1047 G5, you’re going to need this T-shaped antenna to get the most out of it (they do turn up on ebay regularly, at moderate to sometimes ridiculously high prices).

Alternately, there are third-party, PCI-based, 802.11n PCI (not PCI-Express/PCIe) wifi cards you can add — often with MIMO (i.e., multiple antennae). This was the solution I relied on — a three-antenna model, rated for up to 450Mbps — until I reconfigured my network and brought the router next to my G5 (and switching to an ethernet connection). The 802.11n card did work fairly well.

Another alternative, even more exotic solution might be to find an old, PCI-to-PCMCIA/CardBus adapter and to find a PCMCIA 802.11n wifi card for it. Linksys made one of these 802.11n PCMCIA cards for laptops (it’s what I use on my PowerBook).
 
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Jack Neill

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Sep 13, 2015
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Well I finally found one at a decent price and it's in really good shape for its age. 100$ at shopgoodwill.com and picked up at the Goodwill 3 miles from my house. PowerBook 5,7 17", 2GB ram, and booting from a 180GB Intel SSD via FW800. I wanted a PB 5,9 but I'm pretty happy. It came with 1.5Gb but I robbed the 1Gb stick from the 12". I am not sure if its worth cracking this open to go mSata or not.. The other 2 PB I have I have done that, but with this FW800 SSD it's pretty solid and this thing is so big it's not leaving the desk. Time for some NOLF!
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theMarble

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Sep 27, 2020
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Was doing a Void update today on my 12" PowerBook when I noticed that Linux 6 could be installed. Crazy to see the latest Linux kernel running on a 19 year old PowerBook!

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Also, does anyone know any way to get fans working in Void? They are not running at all right now, making the entire chassis extremely hot to the touch (hence the SSH). Would it be possible to force the fans to always run at full blast in OpenFirmware? I'd rather have the fans go loud than not at all.
 

dpny

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Jan 5, 2013
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If you plan to use the in-board, 802.11g AirPort Extreme card on your A1047 G5, you’re going to need this T-shaped antenna to get the most out of it (they do turn up on ebay regularly, at moderate to sometimes ridiculously high prices).

Alternately, there are third-party, PCI-based, 802.11n PCI (not PCI-Express/PCIe) wifi cards you can add — often with MIMO (i.e., multiple antennae). This was the solution I relied on — a three-antenna model, rated for up to 450Mbps — until I reconfigured my network and brought the router next to my G5 (and switching to an ethernet connection). The 802.11n card did work fairly well.

Another alternative, even more exotic solution might be to find an old, PCI-to-PCMCIA/CardBus adapter and to find a PCMCIA 802.11n wifi card for it. Linksys made one of these 802.11n PCMCIA cards for laptops (it’s what I use on my PowerBook).
I'm not sure what I will do for now. I do have a 30' run of Cat5, so I can always use that. But I got the machine mostly for nostalgia and to keep it out of the scrapheap, so it likely won't get a lot of use. I've got a PC with a 5600X/3080, my 2018 MBP, and a 2010 Mac Pro dual booting 10.13 and Ubuntu, so I'm not hurting for machines.

I might pick up a PCI 802.11n card if I can find one for cheap.
 

AphoticD

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Feb 17, 2017
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If I had a working A1104 PowerBook (the final 12-inch), I’d be trying out a similar passive cooling plan to keep its one fan from doing all the work in such a cramped space.
Yes, I did this years ago (2017) on my final rev PBG4 12" and it is still running perfectly (I used 2mm pads). I use this little PowerBook almost every evening to put some time into my Tiger Cocoa projects. That particular unit is possibly one my favourite / most sentimental Macs.

If only I had seen your post re: the A1261 yesterday, as I had mine fully dismantled for some repairs (LCD panel replacement + Optical drive) as well as fresh thermal paste. It's now running much cooler with Arctic Silver 5 (CPU Diode idles at 50°C as I am typing this post), but during compilation and benchmarks, the CPU Diode temps still peak around 105°C after a few minutes of CPU flogging. More than hot enough to cook an egg, but not uncommon for a C2D MacBook Pro.

Now I have to muster up the motivation to pull it apart again and apply thermal pads to the underside of the heatsink :)
 
Yes, I did this years ago (2017) on my final rev PBG4 12" and it is still running perfectly (I used 2mm pads). I use this little PowerBook almost every evening to put some time into my Tiger Cocoa projects. That particular unit is possibly one my favourite / most sentimental Macs.

If only I had seen your post re: the A1261 yesterday, as I had mine fully dismantled for some repairs (LCD panel replacement + Optical drive) as well as fresh thermal paste. It's now running much cooler with Arctic Silver 5 (CPU Diode idles at 50°C as I am typing this post), but during compilation and benchmarks, the CPU Diode temps still peak around 105°C after a few minutes of CPU flogging. More than hot enough to cook an egg, but not uncommon for a C2D MacBook Pro.

Now I have to muster up the motivation to pull it apart again and apply thermal pads to the underside of the heatsink :)

Compared with the A1104 PowerBook, cracking open and doing the A1261 is a cakewalk. :D
 
Yes, I did this years ago (2017) on my final rev PBG4 12" and it is still running perfectly (I used 2mm pads). I use this little PowerBook almost every evening to put some time into my Tiger Cocoa projects. That particular unit is possibly one my favourite / most sentimental Macs.

If only I had seen your post re: the A1261 yesterday, as I had mine fully dismantled for some repairs (LCD panel replacement + Optical drive) as well as fresh thermal paste. It's now running much cooler with Arctic Silver 5 (CPU Diode idles at 50°C as I am typing this post), but during compilation and benchmarks, the CPU Diode temps still peak around 105°C after a few minutes of CPU flogging. More than hot enough to cook an egg, but not uncommon for a C2D MacBook Pro.

Now I have to muster up the motivation to pull it apart again and apply thermal pads to the underside of the heatsink :)

Incidentally, I did all this as winter set in here, so the CPU diode temp peaks I’ve managed (usually, when something is compiling in macports) tend to peak noticeably lower than 105°C. The highest temps I’ve managed to see came from the GPU heatsink(0), and those have not exceeded 74°C no matter what I throw at it. But you have the environmental testing conditions I don’t right now: summertime interior room temps, aircon or no. It’ll be months before I can replicate the same over here, so time will tell if 80°C-plus temps will emerge.

Also, I can’t remember whether you did this or not, but when cleaning out the fans, the oil I use for the spindles is one engineered for lubricating cordless power tools. The brand I use appears to be a Canadian-only one, but any brand purposed for this application is what will give your A1261 fans what they need for much more life.
 
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Amethyst1

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Oct 28, 2015
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I just got news that a new build of Leopard that slots between 9a283 and 9a303 has been found and leaked…
I wonder what’s up with its 9Z1554 build number. Usually betas use an “A”. Maybe a fork or something.

Maybe there’s a secret fork of Leopard which kept Tiger’s UI and made it to Golden Master status…
 
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