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AphoticD

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My father passed away a year ago, this month. I share your feelings of loss @eyoungren and @AphoticD
Thanks @TheShortTimer. It's a painful, yet humbling experience to lose a parent. Time waits for nobody, it just keeps marching on...

In (kinda) keeping on topic, I'll share a little memory of my first Mac experience I had with my Dad, circa maybe 1990 -- not PowerPC :)

My Dad, who was a published author, at this time had depended upon his trusty typewriter, white-out, scissors, glue, scrapbooks, and reams of reflex paper to work on his edits and compile his books and layouts, before forwarding his work on to his publisher's DTP department. He was a real hands-on craftsman, so it made good sense to him to have everything tangible like this, and he wasn't thrilled with the idea of computers...

That year, one of Dad’s friends, a C programmer, a numbers guy, gifted him with a brand new Macintosh Plus in the hope that he could introduce Dad to the digital age and bring some ease to his workflow after witnessing him working tirelessly on his latest book, sprawled out entirely covering the floor of his little studio apartment by the sea.

Up until that time, my Dad did not make an attempt to learn about computers. So on one occasion when I went to visit him, I was about 8 years old, he thought it would be a great opportunity to finally unbox this great gift he had been staring at for months. I'm not sure if he knew I already had some experience with these little Macs, or he was just hoping we'd figure it out together, but in no time, I had his Macintosh set up, and I was showing him the ropes. We booted it up, and I excitedly showed him how the mouse works, and the idea of the desktop, files, folders, menus, icons, and so on. We loaded in floppies with MacWrite, MacDraw, MacPaint and a few golden games from the time (Stuntcopter, Missile command, Snakes Alive! and a few other goodies come to mind)... I may have even brought these floppies with me from home...

He watched in awe as I took to MacPaint like a pro. Pulling out the spray can, brush, and pencil tools. Within about half an hour, we had assembled a marvelous scenery of a snorkeler admiring the reef. There was a sunken shipwreck, shells galore, coral, fish, crabs, sharks and all.. All in vivid 1-bit glory, but it my memory, it was packed full of the brightest colours. :cool:

My parents lived separately, and I didn't see a lot of my Dad, but I think after I left him that week, the little Mac was given away, because he found it too confusing. I can't recall seeing him with another computer for a long time and I don't think he ever got another Mac. Unfortunately, he missed my teenage years, but by the time I was in my early 20s, I went to seek him out, to try to get to know him, only to discover he had moved to the dark side... He was a Windows guy! :eek:

Well, at least I was able to have him consider putting down MS Paint and buy a copy of Photoshop. I can't remember which version he had, but we would spend hours going over it together and I'd teach him all about layers, masking, blend modes, resolutions, effect, filters, etc and eventually he was producing wonderful designs entirely in Photoshop. He started offering his graphic design services to local businesses, and even had a number of beautifully created calendars published, which he had compiled - he was a world-class macro photographer (in my opinion).

He eventually let go of his film cameras and bought himself a nice DSLR with some great lenses, and we took many trips out into nature, where he could teach me all about lighting, composition, aperture, shutter speed, films speed, depth of field, and so on...

Where he could show me the analogue solution, I could share a digital one...

I often tried to guide him toward the Mac, but eventually let go of the idea. He was happy with Windows, and had all the right stuff to keep it humming along.

Miss you Dad! :cool:
 
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eyoungren

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My dad got me started on computers (TRS-80 in 1980-81), but never used them himself until the mid-1990s. And then he was a PC person. Which was fine, because by then so was I. My mom was Mac and had some sort of 7200 A/V I think. I was never paying attention to what she had.

Anything computer-wise was me and my mom. My dad didn't hate them, just didn't use them and my sister had no use for them.

By the time I was actually using PowerPC Macs in my job it was 1999 and my dad had retired four years previously. There was no talking about it, he didn't really care to understand and it wasn't until a few years before his death that he actually showed any interest in my career. Perhaps his pending mortality changed things, IDK.

I'm proud of my dad's background. Korean War veteran (Marine Corps), college on the GI Bill to become an electrical engineer (and a private pilot), lifelong career in aerospace. My dad worked on the team for the gyros in the Space Shuttle and the programs for Minuteman and Peacekeeper II.

Because of my dad, as a 16 year old kid I could shortcut through Norton Air Force Base without having to go around. All our cars had base stickers. My best memories are sharing meals out - usually because he'd been a jerk and was trying to apologize, but sometimes because he genuinely wanted time with me. That was the best because he wasn't criticizing or offering solutions for my obvious defects.

The PowerPC era was a great era where my own son and I shared Macs out every weekend at Starbucks, eventually bringing my daughter along. We all had a good time. So, Kaiser's name being on my dad's death certificate brings about memories of that, and a wish that I'd been able to share something similar with my own dad. Unfortunately, I never measured up to anything he had in mind about who or what his son should be so we rarely shared anything in common.

But my own son…:D Well, he had his own iBook in 2008. :D
 

Dronecatcher

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Jun 17, 2014
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Very cool. Do you know of any amateur radio software for PPC? Seems like a great use for these old boxes either using the www or that interface physically with an actual radio via FW or usb or perhaps a pci card?
There's Radio Explorer that's a broadcast listings lookup.


Other than old radios that had a serial connection there are no hardware options - I don't believe there's anything that will drive a USB SDR on PowerPC.
 

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There's Radio Explorer that's a broadcast listings lookup.


Other than old radios that had a serial connection there are no hardware options - I don't believe there's anything that will drive a USB SDR on PowerPC.
I know my Dad has an Icom transceiver that he uses through his Intel imac with a vertical out the back of his house which is working very well for him but was curious about what was/is out there for PowerPC. These old boxes should still have more than enough to drive an SDR. Its pretty wild how modern computing has shrunk HAM radio hardware. I remember when I was a kid in the 80s my dad had a whole walk in closet full of big heavy and hot HAM radio gear floor to ceiling that he had wired to a series of antennas outside.Crazy how that technology, its size & efficiency has changed in 40 years.
 

ToniCH

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Oct 23, 2020
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My dad introduced me to Macs. I was already a fresh software engineer at that point but had never seen a Mac in action before. He was running an ad agency and had a Mac LC at home. When I was visiting him and he needed some help with his computer I helped him. And I soon noticed that the Mac was very easy to use. I also learned Filemaker while helping him and even made some databases for him.

Little did I know that couple years forward I would in middle of a worse recession in decades and lose my job and later on get hired in a Mac sales/support company. In that job interview it was really useful that I could demonstrate my Mac and Filemaker -skills and I was hired right away. My first personal Mac was a PowerMac 6100. I did work in that industry and with ad and repro -agencies and printing presses for almost 15 years. I also sold some of my Filemaker stuff to ad agencies and other companies.

My dad passed away few years ago, I still have many of his Macs stored starting from a Mac Plus to all the way to his final Macbook Air. Also his PM G4 is in my warehouse so this is forum PPC-section relevant. 😎

Ps. I also have his first typewriter - a Royal model 10. 👍🏻
 
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Dronecatcher

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Made an Apple Script app for retrieving ionospheric propagation data (for shortwave radio listening) without opening a browser.

The app uses Curl from PPCMC7 (which must be installed in /Applications) to download a gif image of relevant data and opens it in Preview on Tiger or with QuickLook on Leopard.

Both versions are in the archive attached below if anyone is interested.

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Doq

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The Lab DX
Kinda PowerPC-adjacent. The link in my siggy to my full Macs list used to go to my MR about page. But it looked rather unreadable and not very expandable, so I drug Shiratsuyu out and made a more betterer full Macs page on my technical wiki, now with way more exposition and way more tables.

 
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jouster

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Jan 21, 2002
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Started to prepare my G4 Cube for sale on eBay or FB Marketplace. Since all that involves is wiping the HD and reinstalling a clean copy of Panther, it shouldn’t take long. It works perfectly except for the WiFi card.

It’s a great looking computer, but I’ve pretty much lost internet in storing old machines or turning them into dust collectors on a shelf. Guess I should do some research to see what they’ve been going for. I have the original speakers and mouse somewhere so will include them.
 

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Hooked up my PPC macs to my legacy airport network to my new Verizon 5G home internet and tested speed. I was experiencing around 6-10mbps download which is now around 70-80mbps, so a nice jump. It's working pretty well so far and at a savings to me. Luckily for us, we have a 5G repeater very close.
 
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barracuda156

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Sep 3, 2021
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I am adding support for PowerPC into FreePascal in Macports and fixing the build.

(While the upstream kindly provides the latest version of the compiler as a dmg, there are no bootstrap binaries which are used on Intel by Macports to build the compiler from sources. So the implementation has to be different and pretty ugly.)

UPD. It actually looks like it is done: https://github.com/macports/macports-ports/pull/19770
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Ataman Honcho Honchev

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Feb 11, 2023
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@jouster
I usually prefer format SATA\SAS drives with SAS controller (LSI1068\LSI2008 wit IT firmware have this option), as first :D. If SAS isn't available - use dd in Linux for entire drive (time consuming, but it can also show some problems, if any, with drive itself - stops at some value in progress).
The LSI SAS controllers are an excellent choice anyway.

I wrote LSI SAS support earlier, once I finish bringing the "classic" ATA/SATA support for these involved controllers to the 2023-level, the LSI and MicroSemi SAS will be on the list.
The new LSI controllers have tri-mode (NVMe, SAS, SATA) support and I will try to marry the SAS code with NVMe.

There is very little chance I can make NVMe drives bootable if there is no such provision in the computer firmware.
The earliest Macs with such provision are MacPro 4,1. Otherwise I am relying on the NVMe firmware - and so far the only NVMe drive which does allocate ROM space is Samsung 950 PRO. At least I am not aware of anything else.

Samsung 950 Pro has other problems tho, I would not recommend it.

LSI SAS 9400 and newer can deal with NVMe and have ROM space for extra code. The list of PowerPC Macs where it is important is limited to the last series of G5.

On the other hand the bootability of any controller on Macs with Apple Silicon is a huge question mark: AFAIK, Apple does not provide any developer with meaningful help regarding that topic.
 

ToniCH

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Oct 23, 2020
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I am adding support for PowerPC into FreePascal in Macports and fixing the build.
Wow, that is great. 😎 I studied programming in College in 80's and graduated with high grades in Pascal (we used Turbo Pascal). I also studied Cobol but wasn't as good with it. It would be very nostalgic to refress my Pascal and Cobol skills after all these decades. So, I'll take a look at the FreePascal! 👍🏻
 

barracuda156

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Sep 3, 2021
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Wow, that is great. 😎 I studied programming in College in 80's and graduated with high grades in Pascal (we used Turbo Pascal). I also studied Cobol but wasn't as good with it. It would be very nostalgic to refress my Pascal and Cobol skills after all these decades. So, I'll take a look at the FreePascal! 👍🏻

I think I will get its Lazarus IDE working in a couple of days too. It mostly builds. Some issues need to be sorted.
 

PC mcLinMorph

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Nov 8, 2021
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Started my PowerBook G4, went into terminal and typed apt-get update && apt-get upgrade

Drank a cup of coffee while i waited. Noticed happily the success and logged out.

Wished, that somebody in my country knew how to replace battery-cells, and got rich by offering this service. Cursed some ebay-sellers for the fifth, or sixt time, selling me garbage
 
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