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VirtuallyInsane

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I finally got my friggin iBook G3 from 2001, and I installed Mac OS 9.2.2 onto it. It was on Tiger and it was killing me how slow it was, and now it flies. And the battery works again, lol.

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It was only like 19 quid from Ebay, listed as "untested". Took a chance, and am happy so far.
 

TheShortTimer

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Mar 27, 2017
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I finally got my friggin iBook G3 from 2001, and I installed Mac OS 9.2.2 onto it. It was on Tiger and it was killing me how slow it was, and now it flies.

I run Tiger on a G3 much slower than your iBook and it flies. Replacing the clapped out HDD with an SSD undeniably helped but so did using every tweak and optimisation available. ;)

And the battery works again, lol.

It was only like 19 quid from Ebay, listed as "untested". Took a chance, and am happy so far.

Congrats on both counts. :)
 

VirtuallyInsane

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I run Tiger on a G3 much slower than your iBook and it flies. Replacing the clapped out HDD with an SSD undeniably helped but so did using every tweak and optimisation available. ;)
Haha yeah, but I am so sick of looking at Tiger. I have it on my iBook 12 inch, one of the 14 inches, and the PBG4 12 inch as the primary operating system. It is a good, stable OS and I like it, but I got sick of it and wanted to try OS 9. I bet the SSD helped a fair bit and yes, the tweaks are great. I use tweaks on Leopard for my devices, lol.

Congrats on both counts. :)

Thank you :)
 

davisdelo

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Jul 7, 2019
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Broke my old iPhone while on vacation, ended up getting a 14 Pro. So I got an idea to import the newly advertised ProRes footage into my G5 DC 2.3. Insane as it seems, FCP 6 opened up the ProRes HQ files fine. It edits the 1080p/30 footage flawlessly without dropping frames, saves, exports, everything. The direct HDMI that I can get out of the 14 is really great too. Anyways, that's what I did with my G5 today, It's crazy that after almost 20 years this Mac remains the best video editing machine I've ever owned. I guess I need to test some 4k stuff to see how it really holds up.
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AdamBuker

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Broke my old iPhone while on vacation, ended up getting a 14 Pro. So I got an idea to import the newly advertised ProRes footage into my G5 DC 2.3. Insane as it seems, FCP 6 opened up the ProRes HQ files fine. It edits the 1080p/30 footage flawlessly without dropping frames, saves, exports, everything. The direct HDMI that I can get out of the 14 is really great too. Anyways, that's what I did with my G5 today, It's crazy that after almost 20 years this Mac remains the best video editing machine I've ever owned. I guess I need to test some 4k stuff to see how it really holds up. View attachment 2216751
If you plan on trying 4k editing on a PPC machine, I recommend transcoding your footage into Apple Intermediate Codec as it’s easier for the machine than any variant of ProRes.
 

Eason85

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Jan 29, 2017
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I finally got my friggin iBook G3 from 2001, and I installed Mac OS 9.2.2 onto it. It was on Tiger and it was killing me how slow it was, and now it flies. And the battery works again, lol.

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It was only like 19 quid from Ebay, listed as "untested". Took a chance, and am happy so far.
Hell yeah! This was the last Mac I owned before I switched to PCs. I think I had one with 64 MB of memory and I tried OSX and it was just so slow despite being brand new. I loved the design though -- I now have a G4 iBook 14" running OS 9.2 as a hobby machine.
 
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davisdelo

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If you plan on trying 4k editing on a PPC machine, I recommend transcoding your footage into Apple Intermediate Codec as it’s easier for the machine than any variant of ProRes.
I didn’t know AIC could handle 4K. I don’t think I get hardware acceleration on that codec like I do with DVCPROHD and Apple ProRes, I have an Aja Kona pcie card that handles all the scaling and such for those two codecs in FCP. I should test AIC though. It would be an interesting comparison between AIC with what is capable on the Aja, a high efficiency codec vs hardware acceleration. AIC allowed me to edit 720p video on my old PowerBook without issue back in the day, it’s no slouch.
 

AdamBuker

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I didn’t know AIC could handle 4K. I don’t think I get hardware acceleration on that codec like I do with DVCPROHD and Apple ProRes, I have an Aja Kona pcie card that handles all the scaling and such for those two codecs in FCP. I should test AIC though. It would be an interesting comparison between AIC with what is capable on the Aja, a high efficiency codec vs hardware acceleration. AIC allowed me to edit 720p video on my old PowerBook without issue back in the day, it’s no slouch.
I've done 4k AIC on my early '05 PowerBook. It does take longer to render and sometimes FCP plugins don't like to deal with that kind of resolution. It worked for me because I was only ever shooting 4:2:0 8-bit footage anyway in controlled lighting, so ProRes really wasn't going to give me any advantage over plain AIC. That being said, I would love to try working with an AJA Kona card on my recently acquired late '05 PowerMac G5 for the heck of it. I'd like to do more research on modern video editing for PowerPC and make a wiki (someday...maybe) in case anyone else is glutton for punishing these old machines with stupidly insane workflows they were never designed for. :D
 

ojfd

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Oct 20, 2020
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You know what's worse? Dropping a brand new one into a lake.
Yeah, that sucks too. I've witnessed it on numerous occasions. Happens all the time to phones, wallets and glasses. If you must use the phone, while on the water, use something like this.

Ok, enough of OT stuff.
 

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mmphosis

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Yesterday, I ran telnet to connect to KEGSMAC 0.91 with it's emulated serial port using a socket connection on port 6501. I was also able to telnet from the PowerPC Mac to kegs 1.23 on a Linux box.
 
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davisdelo

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I've done 4k AIC on my early '05 PowerBook. It does take longer to render and sometimes FCP plugins don't like to deal with that kind of resolution. It worked for me because I was only ever shooting 4:2:0 8-bit footage anyway in controlled lighting, so ProRes really wasn't going to give me any advantage over plain AIC. That being said, I would love to try working with an AJA Kona card on my recently acquired late '05 PowerMac G5 for the heck of it. I'd like to do more research on modern video editing for PowerPC and make a wiki (someday...maybe) in case anyone else is glutton for punishing these old machines with stupidly insane workflows they were never designed for. :D
Well the 4k AIC works for viewing the clips (better frame rate than ProRes HQ), but as soon as you put an effect or transition in it's toast. It'd be interesting if someone with something more powerful than my 7800GT could try as that seems to be the frontmost bottleneck. It was fun to try anyways. I'm super happy with the 1080p ProRes HQ performance as it stands. You should totally get a KONA, they're awesome and go for about 50 bucks on ebay, you don't need the rack interface either (although i have one), it's only a convenience, all the IO is on the cable.
 

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barracuda156

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If you plan on trying 4k editing on a PPC machine, I recommend transcoding your footage into Apple Intermediate Codec as it’s easier for the machine than any variant of ProRes.

BTW, what is the better way to watch 4k clips? Online is not needed, I rather wonder if I could watch downloaded music vids in full resolution. Tried to feed 3.5 GB BlackPink clip to mpv, and while it kinda tried to play it, it wasn’t enjoyable process. Old VLC (release, not from source) did not do much better. (On 10.6 VLC failed to play at all, complaining re missing acceleration, on 10.5.8 it played marginally better than mpv, but the latter was not tuned, I just used a default build.)
Should I try FC just to watch vids? (CorePlayer was totally useless, btw, did not even open the file.)
 

Dronecatcher

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Jun 17, 2014
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BTW, what is the better way to watch 4k clips?
I played 4K on my Quad with VLC - from memory, the speed tricks degraded the quality enough to make it inferior to 1080P:

 

wicknix

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Jun 4, 2017
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Installed Fienix Linux on my Dual 2ghz PMG5 because i wanted yaboot instead of grub, and because much like the old ppc Ubuntu's it uses a 32-bit rootfs with a 64-bit kernel on G5's (which is auto detected on install). Then i switched the repository over to Debians and upgraded to bookworm/sid. Once everything was installed to my liking i built Sealion. 4 hours. Much better than 18 hours on the 12" PBG4. So now this will be the new build machine for future 32-bit ppc Linux releases.

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juanstdio

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My dad is about to have brain surgery, I bring with me a PB 15" to spend all the day watching youtube or some movies in dvd (yes there is a rent dvd in front of the hospital) or just listen to music, it will keep me well occupied

I'm Glad to learn about PowerPC and this wonderful forum
 

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Mark.g4

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My dad is about to have brain surgery, I bring with me a PB 15" to spend all the day watching youtube or some movies in dvd (yes there is a rent dvd in front of the hospital) or just listen to music, it will keep me well occupied

I'm Glad to learn about PowerPC and this wonderful forum


Glad to have you here on the forum.
Best wishes for your dad, hope he gets well soon.

I know what it's like to wait so many hours in a hospital waiting room.
My father was operated on for a tumor and that day of waiting was truly endless, time seemed to stop passing.

I'm close to you right now.

Best wishes for all your family.
 

davisdelo

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Jul 7, 2019
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I just got a 512GB SSD for my DC G5, cloned my existing Crutial v4 256GB onto it. I used CCC for the task and it worked perfectly. 130 GB of data took almost 2 hours on the internal SATA bus. I'm absolutely shocked that it cost less than $30. I was a little hesitant to get it because it doesn't explicitly say SATA I compatibility, but it worked without issue. If anyone is looking for a cheap SSD, this is the drive I used (Amazon.com).
 

Ataman Honcho Honchev

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This thing is probably quite unusual:


Indeed, was done in last few days.

As a byproduct the cheap "(Intenso)®" drives (costing peanuts and coming from China in huge numbers to conquer Europe) are rehabilitated: they did not work earlier due my bug, not due the bug of the manufacturer. At last, that bug is RIP (probably few more bugs will have the same fate soon. Does not look, any is a show stopper).
 
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Ataman Honcho Honchev

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Feb 11, 2023
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My dad is about to have brain surgery, I bring with me a PB 15" to spend all the day watching youtube or some movies in dvd (yes there is a rent dvd in front of the hospital) or just listen to music, it will keep me well occupied

I'm Glad to learn about PowerPC and this wonderful forum
All the best to your family. Crossing my fingers and hope your dad will recover soon.
 

mortlocli

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Feb 23, 2020
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i have to re-install a mac os onto my iBook so i can see if i can copy a no longer available ipad app from my ipad mini to my ipad2. ive tried this on my imac running mavericks but itunes nor app store display the app..as its no longer available in the open source form.

ive posted the following in an ipad discussion in here
 
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