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Power to your, brother, but I have a 15% love 85% hate relationship with those things. To start with, Apple made it an absolute PITA to service the motherboard (this was pretty much the beginning of its deliberate FUs to independent techs who had to work on their stuff) compared to the G3/G4 ring-pull aqua/gray towers that preceded them, they weighed as much as a battleship, proprietary video standards out the wazoo meant expensive cables for everyone, and I can't even remember if the ram was nonstandard too. It was never fun dealing with a pallet of those things when a cosmetic scuff would reduce the resale value by 50% instantly (this was back before Apple had the chutzpah to apply the same unscrupulous strategy to iMac, macbook, and iphone screens).
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Every so often, I have to roll this out…
I’m aware of the difficulty at disassembling it for maintenance, repair, or upkeep, as in that fundamental sense, it was a carryover from the 2003 Power Mac G5 design. I mean, it’s laudable they moved toward a material which could be re-used eventually (and when unscathed, looked splendid). But handles getting bent and any spindling during transport meant it would never stand correctly ever again (or damage the side door, making keeping it closed or even opening it a problem). And yes, they’re incredibly heavy for what they are.
But I’d still be OK with it, just as I am with the mid-2004 G5 I’ve used since 2014. I’m well acquainted with that form factor. It’s been taken completely apart, which was no easy feat! I’d rather the MacPro4,1 or 5,1 (or upgrading the 3,1’s firmware), given the PCIe expansion possibilities and places to have internal HDDs (the G5 I have holds six drives internally). At this time, I don’t have the need for one, so when the time comes once I do, I’m sure one will turn up locally in good condition for next to nothing.
I don’t miss the plastic of the B&W G3s or the G4s. Plastic ages, embrittles, and breaks following exposure to air and light — and the polycarbonate used on Apple gear during the plastic/acrylic era is not exempt. Plastic can’t readily be repurposed for anything else, which is another aspect of design trend I don’t miss (and yes, I’m saying this, fully cognizant of how much I loved, love, and always will love the key lime clamshell iBook, including the one in my avatar, but also knowing how many injection-moulded components on it have cracked or even disintegrated).
I’m not going to kvetch too much about Apple’s servers, because they are what they are.
10.6.x isn’t available via IR, only via physical media.
Can you elaborate?
What the dilemma was the ssd drive is 2011 which can only accept lion from a re-install.
i will the original one (64gb) that will fresh install Snow Leopard when im very bored and caught up!
thanks for the advice-tips!
That’s fishy. Putting a newer internal SSD in a 2010 MBA shouldn’t compromise its ability to run SL.
The latest MacBook Pro mid 2012 that can be changed and expanded all with a screwdriver. From here on I stopped being interested in MacBooks. I will never buy a Mac with soldered memories, soldered disks, and soldered batteries. Fast, hard, with quality, let's die together! ( I first)
I would've thought that the 15" 2011 MBP with its inevitable GPU failure holds the title as the most failure prone Mac in recent history.
Have you seen Greg Hrutkay's appraisal of the Trash Can MP? It's worth watching.
You do indeed. Women exist within the Tech world...
Ok, that explains why it's unobtainable. Thanks for the clarification.
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Upon this clip and with additional reflection of how I came to own the Power Mac G5 in 2014 for the low, low price of gratis, it was then a ten-year-old system. The 6,1 is now anywhere from 5 to 11 years old, depending on when it was assembled.
I may be retracting what I wrote earlier about that price. Maybe lightning will strike the same place twice and someone else will just hand me their unloved, unwanted, unused 6,1.
A girl can dream.
The really bad ones were the Late-2011 3.4ghz i7 27" iMacs and 15" and 17" MBPs with hopped-up video-cards, all of which were affected by "soldergate". (Installing MacsFanControl is nigh mandatory on dvd-era systems.)
The EIM forum have addressed the MBP8,2 and 8,3 “Radeongate” issue extensively.
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For awhile (eight or ten years ago), it was worth doing, but now dvd-model iMacs are under-$50 recycler finds. (I remember replacing a VC in a Late-'11 27" for a customer; it clipped onto the backside of the MB, necessitating complete disassembly of the entire layer-cake to get at it. Short of Louis Rossman-style microscope-reballing, it was the most exasperating foray aside from replacing a MacBook keyboard with its five billion grain-of-sand sized screws.
Most iMac soldergate victims became parts-donors, mainly for outer-glass.
I have replaced at least two unibody keyboards, with all 63 or so screws. It’s really not that bad.
that is normal, i just forgot that the 128GB ssd 2011 runs Snow leopard
but from a time machine back up only.
that 2010 64GB will accpet a usc a thumb drive reinstall of snow leopard.
TODAY i'm designing my website on early intel Mac Mini 2012 i5 with a 2K BenQ monitor
which is not a good idea since we have thunderstorm that occasionally
shuts down our local area power grid for 3 seconds,
enough time to shut down internet feed and Macmini,, which still auto saves but
i will now switch ot the early intel MBpro 12 and resume designing.
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My MBP 2012 launches faster than the MBA2020 M1 from start up by several seconds
there is no logo and that white status bar, just the screen instantly on the MBP12!
I may be retracting what I wrote earlier about that price. Maybe lightning will strike the same place twice and someone else will just hand me their unloved, unwanted, unused 6,1.
The cheapest price that I've seen in the UK is £200 GBP.
It might be worth contacting companies, especially graphic design and video editing organisations and asking if they're retiring elements of their hardware inventory and if so, what's up for grabs.
A girl can dream.
She can indeed.
Well, three things…
1. I ordered another Thunderbolt 2 dock for my 2011 MacBook Air. Same brand (Belkin). About a month ago I had another look on eBay to see if anyone was offering the FW800 version of this dock and found someone who was. I specifically asked them if the photo they were showing was a stock image or not. They said this dock had the FW800 port. Belkin makes (or made) two models of this dock. One has the FW800 port, the other has an HDMI port. Last time around I ended up with the HDMI port dock which was not what I wanted. I was refunded about $20 on that because the seller had used the wrong image.
Apparently, I waited so long to go after the dock with the FW port that the seller had discounted it by 20 percent. Cost me $40 this time around.
I verified the model number with a Google search this time as well and it came back as the FW version. That's what I better get or this time it's going back.
2. Ordered a 6ft OEM Apple TB2 cable for $15.
3. Apparently zoom still supports OS 10.13, so I installed that on the MBA. I'm not a meetings person, but if someone from work ever wants to do a zoom call I can use the MBA. I'd use the work issued Mac, but it's in clamshell mode all the time so I'd have to pull it out and I really don't want to do that. With the MBA able to support zoom it won't matter. I suppose that'll work until zoom cuts off High Sierra. However, I already put the 2008 MBP on Monterey and that has an internal iSight so that'll do at that point.
The entire purpose for all of this has been to use the MBA as my next intermediate platform between between some of my older Macs and the Macs I have (and others that will be) running Monterey. The MBA on High Sierra is in enough of a middle ground to support both my PowerPC Macs and those with the newer OS. While my SL Mini is great, it's not going to format a drive as APFS for me. The High Sierra MBA will. And so on.
I foresee my own 2015/16 MBP by the end of the year.
So it goes…my sliding scale of upgrades and updates slowly but inexorably advances. Five years ago I was solidly PowerPC for my daily driver and today there is at least two Macs in the house newer than 2010. And only one PowerPC out of many that's still on 24/7. Times change, even for me.
1. I ordered another Thunderbolt 2 dock for my 2011 MacBook Air. Same brand (Belkin). About a month ago I had another look on eBay to see if anyone was offering the FW800 version of this dock and found someone who was. I specifically asked them if the photo they were showing was a stock image or not. They said this dock had the FW800 port. Belkin makes (or made) two models of this dock. One has the FW800 port, the other has an HDMI port. Last time around I ended up with the HDMI port dock which was not what I wanted. I was refunded about $20 on that because the seller had used the wrong image.
Apparently, I waited so long to go after the dock with the FW port that the seller had discounted it by 20 percent. Cost me $40 this time around.
I verified the model number with a Google search this time as well and it came back as the FW version. That's what I better get or this time it's going back.
2. Ordered a 6ft OEM Apple TB2 cable for $15.
3. Apparently zoom still supports OS 10.13, so I installed that on the MBA. I'm not a meetings person, but if someone from work ever wants to do a zoom call I can use the MBA. I'd use the work issued Mac, but it's in clamshell mode all the time so I'd have to pull it out and I really don't want to do that. With the MBA able to support zoom it won't matter. I suppose that'll work until zoom cuts off High Sierra. However, I already put the 2008 MBP on Monterey and that has an internal iSight so that'll do at that point.
The entire purpose for all of this has been to use the MBA as my next intermediate platform between between some of my older Macs and the Macs I have (and others that will be) running Monterey. The MBA on High Sierra is in enough of a middle ground to support both my PowerPC Macs and those with the newer OS. While my SL Mini is great, it's not going to format a drive as APFS for me. The High Sierra MBA will. And so on.
I foresee my own 2015/16 MBP by the end of the year.
So it goes…my sliding scale of upgrades and updates slowly but inexorably advances. Five years ago I was solidly PowerPC for my daily driver and today there is at least two Macs in the house newer than 2010. And only one PowerPC out of many that's still on 24/7. Times change, even for me.
Try running Snow Leopard on an SSD, even an old SATA one, it’s insanely fast.
If you want the best macs to upgrade the older macbook pro's are the best because they have fully upgradable motherboards cpu ram and hdds , the newer models after 2017 aren't fully upgradable, my personal favorite is the 2012 13" Macbook Pro . The 2012 version was the last year for the optical drive which you can swap out for a 2nd hdd
Catalina wasn't great, but Big Sur was probably the smoothest version of macOS I ever ran on my unsupported 2012 i7 Mac mini. I rely almost entirely on open source software anyway, so had I no trouble with losing 32-bit support after Mojave. You need to chill, just let us all enjoy our machines.
well looks like i need to replace some thermal paste on 3 macs,
i did this in 2014 while working at a tech shop several times on older MacBooks from 2009-2012
without a problem as we had a solder-expert who could do their magic in case something happened.
my concern is a logic board connection port popping up as that happened to a mac mini 2 years ago.
there is a trick i thought of were i might electrical tape the fan to the logic board or away on the side
while i flip the logic board over to remove the heat sink.
seems to me when performing a repair or improvement project, it is good to have some anxiety
because doing such tasks can ruin such a good thing!
i did this in 2014 while working at a tech shop several times on older MacBooks from 2009-2012
without a problem as we had a solder-expert who could do their magic in case something happened.
my concern is a logic board connection port popping up as that happened to a mac mini 2 years ago.
there is a trick i thought of were i might electrical tape the fan to the logic board or away on the side
while i flip the logic board over to remove the heat sink.
seems to me when performing a repair or improvement project, it is good to have some anxiety
because doing such tasks can ruin such a good thing!
Not quite. They made a Thunderbolt 1 dock with FW800 but no HDMI. And a (smaller) Thunderbolt 2 dock with HDMI 1.4 but no FW800. I have owned both.
About 90% of Mac open-source software is 32bit, of which there used to be a thriving community. Now everything is tightly controlled around the AppStore.
That's not up to me, but Apple in 3-5 years.
what i have to do with my early intel is check out if my grey cat
jumped on the macbook pro 2012 keyboard and track pad while
a bunch of ibis flew onto our driveway as the MBP was resting on a table in the porch, lenai
so kitty cat can get a better look while i wa soutside feeding them scrap bread.
(a small mount since they should eat grass, but they entertain my cats at times)
hopefully the trackpad ribbon is off a bit,
the cat seems kinda suspicious but defiant now.
UPDATE Tuesday well the MBP system went haywire while designing gifs for my website in constructing
everything was okay for about an hour,then screen went to launch or the three things we never use, then jittered
were photoshop, itunes and the open program took turns dancing on the screen.
i need a One 5.6 mm Tri-point screw driver and a new track pad
until then the new M1 MBA will get some attention this month, sorry folks here and Steve J!
(im tying this on the macbook air 2010)
jumped on the macbook pro 2012 keyboard and track pad while
a bunch of ibis flew onto our driveway as the MBP was resting on a table in the porch, lenai
so kitty cat can get a better look while i wa soutside feeding them scrap bread.
(a small mount since they should eat grass, but they entertain my cats at times)
hopefully the trackpad ribbon is off a bit,
the cat seems kinda suspicious but defiant now.
UPDATE Tuesday well the MBP system went haywire while designing gifs for my website in constructing
everything was okay for about an hour,then screen went to launch or the three things we never use, then jittered
were photoshop, itunes and the open program took turns dancing on the screen.
i need a One 5.6 mm Tri-point screw driver and a new track pad
until then the new M1 MBA will get some attention this month, sorry folks here and Steve J!
(im tying this on the macbook air 2010)
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