What have you done with an early Intel recently?

[B S Magnet]

Does OCLP have an option to reapply patches? If so, I’d try this with anything related to graphics. Did you update OCLP (if possible) before updating Ventura?


Continuing with the Apple OEM SSD story, 2012 had SanDisk join the game. All examples I've seen share the F1 prefix.

I added it, but you’ll now note there are two F1 entries and also two DN entries.

But it gets messier as of just now: whilst reading an old story on the Intel Developer Transition Kit, the serial shown is also prefixed as F1.

Though knowing Apple’s past history of using single-glyph location/factory identifiers in the very old days (including “C” for Cork, Ireland, well into the 2000s), I have a hunch the DTK — effectively prototypes — were assembled at the old Fremont factory (“F”) going back to the 1970s and 1980s.

“F1”, seen here, could be the way the third glyph position later on denoted which factory or assembly line within a location assembled the item. Without knowing for sure, it’s conjecture, but the following three digits — “536” — or, September 2005, sounds right about when one would expect a DTK to be readied.

 

[TheShortTimer]

Another sleepless night, so I decided to work on completing the transition from my 13" 2011 MBP running High Sierra to the 13" 2012 one w/ Ventura by transferring my Firefox passwords, bookmarks and browser history over to the successor. The easiest method is to copy the profiles folder which contains everything to the new Firefox setup and usually, this would work like a charm.

Not this time! Firefox on the 2012 MBP hung whenever I tried to run it and only played ball after the profiles folder was removed. No matter, I found this guide on the Mozilla site with instructions as to which files need to be copied and I was in business very quickly.

Even the contents of the bookmarks bar was duplicated - which made me a very happy man. (I wonder if the super observant can spot a particular site among them.)

What can I say? I'm easily pleased.

 

[B S Magnet]

Another sleepless night, so I decided to work on completing the transition from my 13" 2011 MBP running High Sierra to the 13" 2012 one

:: pouring one out for a legend ::

My brain briefly parsed this search engine with the long departed metasearch engine, Starting Point, from — dating myself — 1996:

 

[TheShortTimer]

My brain briefly parsed this search engine with the long departed metasearch engine, Starting Point, from — dating myself — 1996:

I never encountered that one. Very interesting!

Probably because back in the 90s I was using Yahoo (and still do) or AltaVista.

Prior using to Startpage - which unfortunately sometimes omits Google results, I was a devotee of Scroogle. Don't know if you ever dabbled with that one...

 

[B S Magnet]

I never encountered that one. Very interesting!

Probably because back in the 90s I was using Yahoo (and still do) or AltaVista.

Prior using to Startpage - which unfortunately sometimes omits Google results, I was a devotee of Scroogle. Don't know if you ever dabbled with that one...

Starting Point was the place to go just prior to AltaVista. It was slow (the results for a search might take a minute as each polled search engine responded, but it was better than Yahoo. It aggregated a bunch of small engines into one result list.

If anything, AltaVista put the nail in Starting Point’s coffin, because the latter was also prone to crashing and hanging, whereas AltaVista was able to just respond with a result much in the spirit of Lycos, the Inktomi-powered search engines and, later, Google.

 

[Amethyst1]

I added it, but you’ll now note there are two F1 entries and also two DN entries.

I went through my collection of Apple-supplied HDDs and found a couple of WL-prefixed Toshibas and an IX-prefixed 2GB IBM manufactured in August 1998 which came with my PDQ and was put to the ultimate test here.

A bit more interesting is this peek at the OEM SSD in my week 48/2008 MBA which identifies as APPLE SSD SM128 and adds the 16 prefix (Korea) to the table:

And here is the very first Apple-supplied SSD which was a $999 option for the early-2008 MBA. 16 too, but look at the lovely sticker that later models were deprived of 😍

 

[B S Magnet]

I went through my collection of Apple-supplied HDDs and found a couple of WL-prefixed Toshibas and an IX-prefixed 2GB IBM manufactured in August 1998 which came with my PDQ and was put to the ultimate test here.

A bit more interesting is this peek at the OEM SSD in my week 48/2008 MBA which identifies as APPLE SSD SM128 and adds the 16 prefix (Korea) to the table:

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And here is the very first Apple-supplied SSD which was a $999 option for the early-2008 MBA. 16 too, but look at the lovely sticker that later models were deprived of 😍

All added/updated.

I see you’ve got the bug for spotting these! The next time you open a laptop or desktop, start noticing Apple-assigned serials on fans, ODDs, wifi cards, batteries, power bricks, displays, OEM-assigned LCDs… it’s incredible the depth of logistics tied with Apple-assigned serial conventions!

 

[MBAir2010]

aaaaah!
I finally opened up the early Intel macbook pro 2012 now and the overall experience is refreshing!
just the graphics and still responsive OSX works wonders in 2024.

Sequoia does seem very promising though since many dropped features returned!

 

[B S Magnet]

aaaaah!
I finally opened up the early Intel macbook pro 2012 now and the overall experience is refreshing!
just the graphics and still responsive OSX works wonders in 2024.

Sequoia does seem very promising though since many dropped features returned!

Which noteworthy features did Sequoia restore?

 

[DCBassman]

OK, gutted the 2008 A1286 MBP, replaced the keyboard, now completely unresponsive. What might I have done wrong?

 

[DCBassman]

Further details: battery charges as expected, or at least the magsafe light does what's expected. No response without the battery either. Just...nothing.

 

[MBAir2010]

Which noteworthy features did Sequoia restore?

1. new window finder- opens files in multiple windows (a Sonoma-Ventura fail)
2. MUSIC play an entire album as Monterey-Sonoma stopped after song 3
3. The screen saver does not pop up while watching a sporting event as Monterey-Sonoma always did.

there could be 4,5,6,7....I will find out!
the OS is impressive so far
/ for a non early intel Mac approach to computing.

 

[MBAir2010]

Further details: battery charges as expected, or at least the magsafe light does what's expected. No response without the battery either. Just...nothing.

my mini from 2012 failed last weekend and I just put that aside
as maybe October-ism might resuscitate the display port part.

my point is that these things are fragile as anything can go wrong.
so don't wrack up your nerves now maybe later something might revive the logic board.

 

[TheShortTimer]

1. new window finder- opens files in multiple windows (a Sonoma-Ventura fail)

Can you elaborate about this, please?

1. MUSIC play an entire album as Monterey-Sonoma stopped after song 3

What's the music playing in, the preview window?

my point is that these things are fragile as anything can go wrong.
so don't wrack up your nerves now maybe later something might revive the logic board.

Yeah, taking a little break - if even for a few hours and returning with refreshed eyes can make a huge difference when it comes to problem solving.

 

[DCBassman]

Looks like I've screwd up the LVDS cable and/or socket. Now have video out from the mini DisplayPort.

 

[Amethyst1]

I see you’ve got the bug for spotting these!

I guess you’re right…

BY = Singapore
C5 = China
C9 = Thailand
CD = Thailand
CS = Singapore
IB = Thailand
IH = United Kingdom
IJ = Thailand
IZ = Hungary
JY = China
KA = Singapore
MF = Singapore
MJ = Malaysia
MK = Japan
ML = Japan
NL = Singapore
Q5 = China
WC = Singapore
YH = Singapore

 

[B S Magnet]

I guess you’re right…

BY = Singapore
C5 = China
C9 = Thailand
CD = Thailand
CS = Singapore
IB = Thailand
IH = United Kingdom
IJ = Thailand
IZ = Hungary
JY = China
KA = Singapore
MF = Singapore
MJ = Malaysia
MK = Japan
ML = Japan
NL = Singapore
Q5 = China
WC = Singapore
YH = Singapore

It doesn’t look like it, but making those updates broke the wikipost character limit of 120,000. It hit 121K with the above.

(But in BBEdit, if copy/pasting the BB code, one can remove a lot of superfluous carriage returns between table rows and columns, bringing it down to about 116K.)

 

[ToniCH]

I decided not to install the processor quite yet. I first buy/order some new heat sink pegs or screws as all sources say they are super fragile. I have removed such pegs from many many computers before with success but these are said to be very prone to breaking so I want to be sure I have suitable replacements before starting.

But, I blew the dust out and installed a new battery, the SSD and 2GB extra RAM to the first one. Then I formatted and partitioned the drive for Snow Leopard and Linux dual boot configuration. And then installed SL and now it's updating.

This far all is good. 👍 The interesting part will be the Linux installation, this is a 32-bit EFI + 64-bit processor machine. I've done couple before, so I don't expect big problems (knock on wood).

Ps. now I am installing Linux Mint 21 32/64bit, which I have installed successfully before (iMac 20" '06). If all goes well I will test drive it and later on think about other distro options.

Today was the day I tackled the processor install. I also found some 1GB DDR2's so I upgraded the RAM to max 3GB's. I now had some spare springed nylon stands but luckily they were not needed as I got the originals off and back intact.

Not a bad job. But, I should pay more attention how everything is in there as I had some difficulty reassembling it. After looking at some pics I realized that its possible to install the heat sink in 2 orientations and of course I put it back in the wrong way. So, I had to do it all again. Managed to take the nylon stands off without breaking them also the second time.

Well second time was the charm and now it's working with the new super powerful C2D 2.33 GHz -powerhouse.

I tested it with Linux Mint 21 Cinnamon and it seems like this machine would be perfectly usable as daily computer for some light surfing, email and writing jobs - maybe even more. Mint + Firefox and Youtube-videos run without dropping frames in 720P and with minimal drops (40 dropped in 10000) in 1080P. I think even the slow wifi is fast enough for most stuff but it has a gigabit ethernet so probably that would remove some bottlenecks in video streaming.

Obviously, with lighter Linux it would be even better memory use -wise.

 

[Amethyst1]

Well second time was the charm and now it's working with the new super powerful C2D 2.33 GHz -powerhouse.

There‘s the overclockable T7600G. But I kinda doubt the mini will allow tapping into that ability.

 

[ToniCH]

There‘s the overclockable T7600G. But I kinda doubt the mini will allow tapping into that ability.

Yeah, probably not. Or at least I cannot write the firmware thingie to enable overclocking controls... I might be of a little assistance if Nasa needs somebody to fix a Soviet attack satellite with Cobol though... but I might be little rusty in that too as its been ~34 years since I studied Cobol in the college. 😂

I didn't try if Linux supports 4GB and now I am wondering if the RAM limitation is a hardware limitation or maybe something caused by with OS X?

BTW. to anybody considering upgrading this style of Minis: opening the case is the biggest hurdle in these. Annoying case design IMHO. You need some kind of really thin spatula/knife/something which is very rigid at the same time. And patience is a must.

 

[Amethyst1]

I didn't try if Linux supports 4GB and now I am wondering if the RAM limitation is a hardware limitation or maybe something caused by with OS X?

AFAIK it’s down to the 945 chipset. (As 64bit Windows is also subject to it.)

 

[TheShortTimer]

BTW. to anybody considering upgrading this style of Minis: opening the case is the biggest hurdle in these. Annoying case design IMHO. You need some kind of really thin spatula/knife/something which is very rigid at the same time. And patience is a must.

Completely agree with you from experience. I used a putty-knife to open my G4 Mini when I wanted to upgrade the RAM, replace the onboard battery and install an SSD. After you've done it a few times, the process becomes second nature but I've got no desire to revisit that.

It's not as bad as working on iPhones, though...

 

[Certificate of Excellence]

Completely agree with you from experience. I used a putty-knife to open my G4 Mini when I wanted to upgrade the RAM, replace the onboard battery and install an SSD. After you've done it a few times, the process becomes second nature but I've got no desire to revisit that.

It's not as bad as working on iPhones, though...

I rounded the corners off a 2” width steel putty knife (5cm about) with an angle grinder. Works pretty well for getting in there and unlocking those interior clips.

 

[B S Magnet]

What have you done with an early Intel recently?

Why, thank you for asking!

I’ve spent about a half-week trying out the “soul” of my long-standing, steadfast late 2011 A1278’s two SSDs, each with an OS X/macOS build, within the “not working” early 2011 A1286 I picked up locally three weekends ago. Since removing the power rail resistor to the dGPU (and completing the Real Mac Mods steps to accompany it), it’s been working like a dream.

And on the “healing habitat locally” thing, my worksheet for chronicling the lives, losses, and milestones of every monarch butterfly egg I’ve rescued, midwifed, and raised to adulthood, done up as a simple table in TextEdit, continues to be updated multiple times daily. As each reaches key milestones, I take tonnes of pictures and process them in Photoshop CS6.

From the latest (both this weekend) to embark on their migratory flight down to México (remember: avoid Mexican avocados this winter and hold off on filling up with ethanol in your fuel tank next spring!):



It’s been an absolute delight to edit these on the anti-glare display.

 

[Certificate of Excellence]

What have you done with an early Intel recently?

Why, thank you for asking!

I’ve spent about a half-week trying out the “soul” of my long-standing, steadfast late 2011 A1278’s two SSDs, each with an OS X/macOS build, within the “not working” early 2011 A1286 I picked up locally three weekends ago. Since removing the power rail resistor to the dGPU (and completing the Real Mac Mods steps to accompany it), it’s been working like a dream.

And on the “healing habitat locally” thing, my worksheet for chronicling the lives, losses, and milestones of every monarch butterfly egg I’ve rescued, midwifed, and raised to adulthood, done up as a simple table in TextEdit, continues to be updated multiple times daily. As each reaches key milestones, I take tonnes of pictures and process them in Photoshop CS6.

From the latest (both this weekend) to embark on their migratory flight down to México (remember: avoid Mexican avocados this winter and hold off on filling up with ethanol in your fuel tank next spring!):

View attachment 2414070View attachment 2414071

It’s been an absolute delight to edit these on the anti-glare display.

A couple years ago, I noticed a tagged Monarch flew into my back yard garden. One of their migratory paths follows the Rockies right up through New Mexico and this one decided to chill out in my back yard while I was messing around in my flowers. It had a little dot sticker on its wing. Truthfully, it probably was more interested in my neighbor who has a ton of violet butterlfy bush in her back yard but was cool to see the tagged Monarch come through.

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