What have you done with an early Intel recently?

[DCBassman]

Well, that is weird. 😵‍💫

It gets worse...
If I put all 4 sticks on one card, bingo, 12GB. If I put them on the other card, bingo. In the other slot, bingo. Two on one and two on the other, I only see the two 4GB dimms. Very strange.
I'm thinking it's due to whatever is causing the invisibility of the B processor, but I won't know until I strip it down again, and I won't do that until the 2x2.8 shows up.

 

[ToniCH]

Have you looked in the user manual how to correctly populate the memory slots? I know nothing about cMP 1.1 but in 4.1/5.1 the order you must populate the RAM slots is not what you would logically expect by looking at it, the correct way is in the manual.

 

[DCBassman]

...strip it down again

To which end, a 200mm x 3mm hex bit is also on its way.

 

[DCBassman]

Have you looked in the user manual how to correctly populate the memory slots? I know nothing about cMP 1.1 but in 4.1/5.1 the order you must populate the RAM slots is not what you would logically expect by looking at it, the correct way is in the manual.

So long as they are matched pairs, it should work. And did work until I got inside it...🙃

 

[DCBassman]

So long as they are matched pairs, it should work. And did work until I got inside it...🙃

Indeed, as I have it now, it's "wrong"! But works fine.

 

[TheShortTimer]

So long as they are matched pairs, it should work. And did work until I got inside it...🙃

 

[DCBassman]

This machine is very confused...

A single eight-core Xeon?

 

[ToniCH]

So long as they are matched pairs, it should work. And did work until I got inside it...🙃

This is what I meant:

 

[DCBassman]

Also, I took out the memory risers, removed all the DIMMs, gave everything a good clean, and refitted them as the manual says, and lo! all 12GB visible!

 

[DCBassman]

This is what I meant:

Yup, understood. It wasn't liking the 'proper' arrangement, but after some cleaning, as above, all is now satisfyingly standard!

 

[TheShortTimer]

This machine is very confused... A single eight-core Xeon?

As was confirmed earlier, (nearly) all of the hardware information is displayed correctly when you use a live session of Linux? What about an older version of macOS, say Lion etc?

 

[DCBassman]

As was confirmed earlier, (nearly) all of the hardware information is displayed correctly when you use a live session of Linux? What about an older version of macOS, say Lion etc?

Hmm, have a Lion installer here somewhere, I'll give that a go.

 

[Certificate of Excellence]

… I would put the whole thing (minus the battery and screen) to an ultrasonic cleaner and see if anything salvageable would emerge from it. Probably not, looks horrid.

That was my first thought too lol. Gnarly looking pcb.

 

[TheShortTimer]

Hmm, have a Lion installer here somewhere, I'll give that a go.

Great - it's worth testing to see whether the same results are reported. I suspect that patched Catalina might be misreporting the configuration.

In the meantime, what I have done with an early Intel recently? Well, I had a video call session on MS Teams using my 11" 2010 C2D MBA w/ Catalina.

I need to find a hack so that the above alert stops appearing every time I run Teams. I'm well aware that Microsoft abandoned support for it on Catalina in July!

Ah well, at least it still runs - for now, anyway...

Moving onto my 13" 2012 MBP, the venerable MPEG Streamclip unsurprisingly doesn't work under Ventura - which is a shame because it's extremely capable and efficient for editing video clips quickly and easily. I found a thread featuring someone else who's in the same situation as me and iMovie was recommended as a worthy successor for such tasks.

The only trouble is that Apple has pulled the relevant version for Ventura from the App Store - even as an older version it's unavailable. I truly loathe having to use that system to obtain software, especially when the manufacturer of your computer throws their older software products down the memory hole.

Eventually I managed to find and download iMovie 10.4 from the Internet Archive: thank goodness for that place!

Hmmmm this appears difficult and complicated to use compared to the user interfaces of Avidemux and MPEG Streamclip where everything is intuitive enough that you can snip away and save clips within seconds of starting the programs. I'll have to pick up one of David Pogue's guides and see if that helps. If not, I'll look for something else.

 

[DCBassman]

Great - it's worth testing to see whether the same results are reported. I suspect that patched Catalina might be misreporting the configuration.

Nope. Same result.

 

[Amethyst1]

Nope. Same result.

Does Activity Monitor show eight cores and do benchmarks show expected results? If so, who cares about what System Profiler says

 

[DCBassman]

Incoming cMP 3,1 arrived. Sent the wrong one, heavily damaged and with different components. Not happy.
Options were send it back for full refund, or keep this one and get some refund. Chose the latter.
This gave me 16GB of RAM, Superdrive, CPUs, heatsinks, HD5770, PSU, plus a couple of extra 2GB RAM sticks, which I'll try and move on. I'm sure there will be further suggestions as to what I can strip out of it.

 

[DCBassman]

Does Activity Monitor show eight cores and do benchmarks show expected results? If so, who cares about what System Profiler says

I can't see where in Activity Monitor it would show how many cores there are.

 

[Amethyst1]

I can't see where in Activity Monitor it would show how many cores there are.

The Window menu has two options (current/history) to show graphs for each core. Do you get eight graphs?

 

[DCBassman]

Got it. Showing eight graphs, so presumably all is well. I'll still be stripping out the CPUs and heatsinks and removing the 'special' gunk and replacing it with modern paste. If that looks difficult to remove, I'll drop in the pair of 2.8s just recovered from the wreck that arrived this morning, and take my time getting the 3.2s done properly.

 

[DCBassman]

The Window menu has two options (current/history) to show graphs for each core. Do you get eight graphs?

I still have a problem remembering those menus at the top of the screen; keep searching the program windows for things!

 

[DCBassman]

This also arrived today, makes removing early cMP heatsinks much easier.

 

[rampancy]

OMG... I think a tetanus shot and a Level A Hazmat suit wouldn't be an exaggeration with that. 🤮

I would put the whole thing (minus the battery and screen) to a ultrasonic cleaner and see if anything salvageable would emerge from it. Probably not, looks horrid.

My gut is telling me that if the machine is looking like that, then there's been enough corrosion that the motherboard is unsalvageable. Since even much of the magnesium frame has been apparently eaten away, I can't even salvage structural components, which means the only thing I can harvest from this machine are plastic clips and the case screws (and not too long ago I would have killed for extra A1181 screws).

It really makes me sad to see such a beautiful and otherwise largely structurally intact machine end up like this.

 

[DCBassman]

cMP: pulled the heatsinks and processors. Cleaned the CPUs and the heatsinks from the donor machine and refitted all as standard, without the 'special' hedatsinks, and with new Arctic Silver MX4 paste. Everything cool and collected.
The 3.2 heatsinks have an extra plate attached, around which goes a gasket to hold in the liquid metal, presumably, of the special compound. All very toxic, apparently, so I'm off to clean up.

 

[DCBassman]

Activity Monitor showing eight cores, but activity only on four. Hmmm...