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Exactly. Because you know why? For me at least, it's always been because the 'no' or 'you can't' is arbitrary. In some cases, it's punitive. Other times, it's because the person saying those words is just repeating a mantra and hasn't actually tried.

But then it turns out it is possible. Sometimes it isn't. But most times it is. And then you discover just what a house of cards or arbitrary decision 'no' or 'you can't' is based on. The reason then becomes, "just because".

And that is infuriating!

Before I wiped it and gave it away to a family in need, I really should have snapped more pics of my earlier classic Intel Mac gaming rig, a cleaned up Core Duo MacBook with a 500 GB drive stuffed to the gills with games I ported myself using F/OSS source ports, Wineskin/DOSBox, or played using CrossOver and PortingKit. It was the Mac that would shut up anyone who would say, "You can't game on a Mac!" or "You can't game on a GMA 950."

They are still great at what they do and some of the designs are timeless. I’m personally a sucker for the white polycarbonate designs of the 2000s and my 5th gen iPod and 2010 MacBook represent the latest and greatest iterations of that era. I sometimes wish Apple would reintroduce premium plastics to their product lineup again. I never had one but the iPhone 5c was a real looker in my eyes.

I too miss the old days of polycarbonate plastic, but comparing my 2008 A1278 MacBook and my 2010 MacBook Air to my 2009 A1181 and 2010 A1342 MacBooks, the aluminum unibody cases have aged far, far better in my eyes. Especially with the A1342's flappy bottoms (for that I'd prefer the chipped case plastics of the A1181s - it's easier to ignore or cover up). Still, nothing beats that wonderful glossy shine of the 2010 MacBook.

I can't afford new stuff. Which is why I am purposely about 15 years behind the curve. Because I can buy the old stuff that was really expensive for cheap and make it work.

I'm not a video editor, or someone who needs serious CPU/GPU power. My MacPro is primarily used for web browsing, graphic design and word processing. I'm sure though, that if I got a second job where I had to use my own equipment, it could keep up. I mean, I'm running InDesign CC24, Photoshop CC23 and Illustrator CC25. And the latest version of Microsoft Office. That's pretty dang current.

Next, I don't use all of Apple's ecosystem features. But what I do use, my MP on Sonoma (via OCLP) can handle it. For other things, there are third party options that work fine.

I do have a 2023 M2 MacBook Pro in the house. But that's work issued and used specifically for job-related tasks.

What I object to is just being told that I can't do 'X' with what I have, just because I have an old Mac. Could I do it better, faster or easier on a new Mac? Probably. But that doesn't mean I can't do it on my old Mac.

1000% this. If you're not actually a professional whose livelihood fully depends on maximizing the amount of computing power you have, do you really need the latest and greatest hardware? Especially if Mac performance is more incremental than revolutionary with Apple Silicon post-M1 (because honestly, were people seriously expecting massive orders-of-magnitude performance leaps with every new SoC after the M1?). I've seen people on other MR subforms talk about how they changed out their months-old maxed-out M3 MacBook Pros for M4 Macs for no other apparent reason than anxiety over getting the latest and greatest.

And given the state of the economy today, for low-income folks in need, why can't an older used Mac be an option, if it fulfills their basic computing needs? Why can't we do something to keep almost perfectly working, totally useable computer hardware out of landfills or eWaste?

And beyond that, why can't we just have fun with our old hardware? I hardly see people looking down on auto enthusiasts for restoring and driving old cars.
 
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Recently just acquired an M1 MacBook Air for around $600CAD. Think about it, this thing is almost 5 years old, it is probably approaching end of support within two years.

It is hard to tell that what will happen to Apple Silicon Macs when Apple drops supports, would OCLP works with ARM?
 
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Recently just acquired an M1 MacBook Air for around $600CAD. Think about it, this thing is almost 5 years old, it is probably approaching end of support within two years.

It is hard to tell that what will happen to Apple Silicon Macs when Apple drops supports, would OCLP works with ARM?
I am a graphic designer. All of my jobs have had me in an office with a work issued Mac. Six years ago, my then new job gave me a 15" MBP to cart around. They replaced it with an M2 in late 2023.

What is the need for me to be up to date with personal Macs when every job I've ever had has always provided me with a work Mac?
 
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Didn't take as long as I feared. I suppose because I was just removing stuff and not disconnecting everything. Finally put my old HTC Touch Pro USB power adapters to work though. :D They are driving the USB power for the two A1306 adapters.

Here we are…pre wallpaper fixing.

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I had to put the displays horizontal because they do not sit right vertically against the stands. One hard bump of the table when it's vertical and it falls forward. I bump the table on purpose to simulate this when I lay this stuff out and was prepared to catch the display. It fell forward, so I knew I couldn't keep them vertical.

That of course means fixing my wallpaper. :D
 
@eyoungren , have you ever heard of ISO 3664 and ISO 12646 (viewing-conditions standards for computer image-editing facilities)?
Judging by your workplace pictures that you've posted here and there, your colors must be off by a mile. ;)

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Spent yesterday rebuilding the cMP 3,1, keeping it to as original as I could, and reinstalling the original logic board. Zip.
More furdling about got me up and running for about two minutes, enough to boot to the MX desktop, then fans ramped right up, with everything still working, then poof nothing. And that was it.
Very frustrating, and considering strip and junk.
Having put the cMP aside, I tidied up the workdesk and decided to have two proper desktops, one Windows, one MacOS. To that end, the Mac Mini 5,1 is getting Sonoma later today, and is all set up with the TB3 dock and desk-mounted USB 2 and 3 ports, courtesy of Orico. The Mini will be uncontaminated by anything not Apple, apart from aforementioned USB setup. Magic Mouse and keyboard specifically for it.
 
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@eyoungren , have you ever heard of ISO 3664 and ISO 12646 (viewing-conditions standards for computer image-editing facilities)?
Judging by your workplace pictures that you've posted here and there, your colors must be off by a mile. ;)

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Four things…

1. Since I work from home, yes, this is my workspace. So, color management isn't really an issue for personal stuff. If I adjust my screens at all it's mainly for personal preference. One of the original displays I have even has a slight yellow tint (I've become accustomed to) because a white plastic inner layer has yellowed over time.

2. For my actual job, when using the work issued Mac, work is not color managed. We will often get specific CMYK values or Pantone colors and however that looks on screen isn't relevant.

3. I learned long ago, after getting myself wrapped around the axle that color management is a losing game for the type of print work I am in. It's best just to use the actual CMYK/Spot color values and run with that. I did 19 years in the newspaper business, 14.5 of them with a 50+ year old press that couldn't hold color. You just do the best you can.

4. As I mentioned, work is not color managed. Not once has the prepress person or anyone else mentioned color profiles in any application to me. Having worked a month or so with the prepress guy printing stuff, it all comes down to his opinion of what looks good on his screen. But by the time it's gotten to him, any specific color values have long since been decided. We also have specific colors in a color library that have predetermined color values as well. Those are used quite frequently.

So, unless some color is off aggregiously, this isn't anything I'm worrying about. Now, if I were in an industry printing coffee table books, high end art prints, etc, then it's going to matter. But, what I do now, have been doing for the last six years is golf scorecards and yardage books.
 
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…which I have erased from the photo to save problems with everyone's (and mine...) cable management OCD.
I do my best not to get under or behind the desks I have my monitors set up on. It's a rat's den under there, but I don't think there is any cable management in the world that could organize it all.

Maybe there is, but I'd probably have to hire someone at an absurd price.
 
Typing this on A1229 2007 17" Macbook Pro running El Capitan. Running well as I calibrate the new battery, finally received from iFixit after some nonsensical shenanigans with UPS.
After many trials and no little research, it would seem that this series of MacBooks don't agree with Linux very well.
I've tried all my favourites plus a few I'd not normally bother with, but none have been happy, and only one - Linux Mint - actually got as far as installing. For clarity, this was all done in heavy throttling due to no battery, so that might be a small factor, but only a small one, if at all. I'll retry some, and try a few more different ones, but very disappointed that MX won't work.
 
LOL. My wife’s throat lozenges, as she works at home and teams meeting all day long.
This interaction has given me a fantastic idea for April Fools day 2025. I think I’ll make up some bs about something I did with my early Intel Mac and snap a pic of it with some rails of flour with a straw and razor blade off to the side and see how that is received :D

What did I do recently on EI? I used my 08 MacBook and decoder ring to generate some registration codes for some old PPC Ambrosia apps.
 
It looks like Japanese.
that is roman ji, Japanese alphabet for foreign words
the lettering is O-KU-TOo
which is a non-japanese word for a title
romanji is just characters that sound like the word
example カナダ is Canada. KA カ-NA ナ-DA ダ.

now i will prepare and eat some futomaki!
 
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Today I have been playing with DeepSeek R1. Installed it locally to my MBP 2014 with an eGPU. The machine is pretty much empty but I made a new user and installed DS to him. I installed the DS R1 7b -model which is the basic recommended and about 4.7GB in size.

I also installed a firewall to see what traffic is there between the local DS and external world. Well, there was no unusual traffic out of the machine to network, at least anything I could see in the firewall. In any case I turned the wi-fi off and run it offline.

I also installed Docker and WebUi. This gives DS the normal appearance we are used to when using Ai. But, I think this way slows it down vs. just using the Terminal. The output starts almost immediately in Terminal but takes minutes using the browser+docker+WebUi -combo.

I would not install this in any computer I have any important data on but run like this in offline environment its quite an interesting experiment. :cool:

But, anyways - this is somewhat usable (not professionally really) even with an early Intel MBP. More powerful eGPU would probably help though. EDIT: Ollama does not support RX580 so it's not utilized. It runs 100% on CPU on my MBP. :( This might be fixable in Linux but no idea how to do it in MacOS.

Ps. it can also hallucinate quite nicely. I asked something about history of our capital and it invents people, dates and things that never happened quite fluently! 😂 There were some details that were more or less correct however so it was not 100% BS.

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