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Mitchdoc

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The hinge might be too tight. I saw a Reddit thread on the hinge being too tight and the recommendation was to take it back to The Apple Store to get them to loosen it up.
Will another one came in stock at another nearby Apple store. So tomorrow will pick it up being it home and see if it is better. Will then make a final decision.
 

pshufd

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Will another one came in stock at another nearby Apple store. So tomorrow will pick it up being it home and see if it is better. Will then make a final decision.

I'm a bit amazed at the problems I've read about on QC as my is flawless - it's possible the problems that they're having with Zero-COVID policy means fewer people or rushed schedules. It may be that someone tightened one or two screws slightly too tight.
 
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MrGunny94

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I love mine really! Been using it since release day and the only complaints I have are those memory leak issues that sometimes pops up..

Other than that just wish devs would be quicker with their apps being natively supported (Looking at you FB Messenger, What's App, MS Teams and etc)
 
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pshufd

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I love mine really! Been using it since release day and the only complaints I have are those memory leak issues that sometimes pops up..

Other than that just wish devs would be quicker with their apps being natively supported (Looking at you FB Messenger, What's App, MS Teams and etc)

I just reboot every week or so on the memory leak issues. They'll get fixed eventually. Glad I got 32 GB RAM just for that. I only have a few programs that haven't been ported and I run those on an Intel Mac or Windows.
 

WriteNow

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I don't have a new MacBook Pro...and haven't even seen one in person that I know of. But all the photos I've seen show one annoying imperfection: that notch! LOL
 

Mitchdoc

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Just picked up my new 16 inch . So far I can say no hinge click. Migrating files from the other one and then look for other defects in pixels etc.

Ok so have got it up and running. So far no defect that I can tell. However one thing it has I prefer leashes to do with the screen tint.
Comparing the 2 side by side the new one is slightly more yellow tinted and especially so when off axis viewing and this one with the click seems more pinkish white with a bit easier to view off axis.
Think I prefer the whiter pink display more. Wonder if I can bring this back to apple and se if the click is just coming from the base plate and a simple stew adjustment will alleviate it.
 
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flapflapflap

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Glad I got a '20 M1 MBP instead.

Doesn't pay to be an early adopter, especially if there are significant design or technology changes.
it hurts to be an early adopter. I am super happy that I returned my 14 and kept my 13 M1, it has superior battery life, no issues/defects whatsoever and is it beautifully designed.
 

Mitchdoc

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In fairness my issue is a tiny click.
Otherwise beautiful machine. Other one is flawless but with all macs there are variations in screen and I prefer the slightly more red tint in the one not flawless.
 

Namlase

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My 14" had a hinge click which I ended up returning. Went with the 16 inch and everything is fine. I've noticed that the keyboards on the 14 and 16 are worse compared to my previous m1 air. My 16" has some buttons that rattle and a very loud return key.
 

tmoerel

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Just picked up my new 16 inch . So far I can say no hinge click. Migrating files from the other one and then look for other defects in pixels etc.

Ok so have got it up and running. So far no defect that I can tell. However one thing it has I prefer leashes to do with the screen tint.
Comparing the 2 side by side the new one is slightly more yellow tinted and especially so when off axis viewing and this one with the click seems more pinkish white with a bit easier to view off axis.
Think I prefer the whiter pink display more. Wonder if I can bring this back to apple and se if the click is just coming from the base plate and a simple stew adjustment will alleviate it.
The yellow tint might come from True Tone. Turn it off on Display Settings and see if it is better. Mine is turned off permanently as I prefer colour accuracy!
 

Mitchdoc

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The yellow tint might come from True Tone. Turn it off on Display Settings and see if it is better. Mine is turned off permanently as I prefer colour accuracy!
Have both lap tops with true tone off night shift off and no color adjustment in accessibility. This is a screen coating tint difference without a doubt . Since Apple removed the ability to adjust the white point with our own home made calibration adjustment, one must stick with the defacto screen tint
 

tmoerel

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Have both lap tops with true tone off night shift off and no color adjustment in accessibility. This is a screen coating tint difference without a doubt . Since Apple removed the ability to adjust the white point with our own home made calibration adjustment, one must stick with the defacto screen tint
 

tmoerel

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I am not a professional and won't spend hundreds of dollars to do this. Not to mention this doesn't let you adjust white point setting of the XDR profile which allows for brightness control.
That is OK. Just do not expect a screen to ever look exactly right if you don't use a proper calibrator.
 
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Mitchdoc

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That is OK. Just do not expect a screen to ever look exactly right if you don't use a proper calibrator.
I understand.
Current version of the calibration tools have not even been updated for these screens.

All I wanted was a way to get back some slight tuning that was in the OS before these MBP.
The ability to adjust the white point, and gamma a bit. I find the displays on these are a little bit warm and moreso green tinted from white to my eye but only a bit.
No tool apples an adjustment to the xdr profile which still allows brightness adjustments.

One person @supercurio on these forums has developed a script that can allow me to adjust this and it is the single reason I am not returning this unit and going through the panel lottery as this unit is otherwise perfect.
 

Mitchdoc

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My 14" had a hinge click which I ended up returning. Went with the 16 inch and everything is fine. I've noticed that the keyboards on the 14 and 16 are worse compared to my previous m1 air. My 16" has some buttons that rattle and a very loud return key.
I currently have both the 14 and 16 inch Models in my possession during the return window. I am debating the merits of both. I absolutely love the larger screen on the 16 but love the form factor and portability of the 14. I can certainly get away with doing all of my day-to-day tasks on the 14 inch but I would think for those times when I do creative work on rare occasions such as video editing and photo editing as well as with content viewing the bigger screen might be the better option, especially since I do not have a monitor to plug into.
 

lezmace

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Someone with the 16 inch is using it comfortably on the couch, in bed or move it around often a day?

Or do you use your 16 inch more as a desktop replacement?
 

MrGunny94

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I just reboot every week or so on the memory leak issues. They'll get fixed eventually. Glad I got 32 GB RAM just for that. I only have a few programs that haven't been ported and I run those on an Intel Mac or Windows.
Yeah I should have gone for the 32GB... Especially during a transition phase, there's some heavy moments where I'm running yellow graph closing on the red because of badly optimized apps.

These days I'm just trying to close as many apps as possible that I'm not using.

Next upgrade I won't be doing this...
 

pshufd

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Yeah I should have gone for the 32GB... Especially during a transition phase, there's some heavy moments where I'm running yellow graph closing on the red because of badly optimized apps.

These days I'm just trying to close as many apps as possible that I'm not using.

Next upgrade I won't be doing this...

You shouldn't have to get more RAM because of memory leaks or poorly ported software but here we are. It is exacerbated by the delays for BTO models. It would be possible to buy a new one and sell the old one with likely minimal loss but having to wait six weeks for it would be a pain. I have seen only one of the new PRO/MAX models for sale on my local Craigslist and it's a 16 GB 14 model (selling to get the MAX as I guess the PRO isn't enough for their workflow). I don't expect it to last long given the time it takes to get BTOs.

I had to reboot this morning because of the Monterey network bug. This is where it indicates that you have WiFi but you can't do anything on the network. Rebooting it fixes it though. I suspect that it's related to the memory leak problems. It was worse when I was using it with external monitors and 12.0 - as I had to reboot it every two days. Now I only have to reboot it once a week. I really hope that they get these fixed. Unfortunately Big Sur isn't an option.
 

dburkhanaev

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Aug 8, 2018
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Do you, though?

Once you die, will someone remember you by your pristine 2019 MacBook Pro, or will it end up as electronic waste?
While I’m easily the most careful with things in my family and use them for a good long time, in some cases probably for the rest of my life, the only thing I care about really trying to preserve is a book from 1638 where I more look at myself as a temporary custodian. My own stuff is here for me to use and enjoy as I live, and if that means the odd scuff mark - well it’s not as if I don’t have them myself. And my battery is continously degrading. ?

And the things I’ve inherited, well I appreciate the wear! They are the marks of my grandfather, his use, his hands. If the wear wan’t there, it would just be an object that existed during his time, it would show no sign of him, no presence. Now when I see the wear from his hands, I remember the roughness of their skin on my cheek as a boy.

Perfection in devices, as in skin, is a marketing myth. It was never worth much in the first place.
I don’t and I don’t expect my MBP to look flawless for the next five or so years I own it. Although I might keep it as it’s the last Intel MBP. That being said I don’t know what’s the point of your comments. I’m not concerned with a stray scuff or scratch here or there, it happens. But being careful with $3,000 hardware is a mindset and a pattern of behavior. I also don’t look like the day I was born, it’s not possible. But at nearly 40 years old, I can still pass as a man in my mid 20s. Sure a lot of that is genetics in both sides. But it’s also thanks in part to a routine that includes skin care and healthy diet. But one day I’ll die. But that’s not the point. The mindset of someone who takes care of his things and himself is one way that I show myself respect and self love. Things are replaceable, but they aren’t cheap and I had to work hard to make the money to buy it. I have a fleet of retro computers and they are in great condition because I had that same mindset from the beginning. They aren’t flawless or scuff free, but a 22 year old Wall Street PowerBook rarely looks as good as mine.

Aside from having a nice collection of computers from my youth, I have devices in collectible condition. I have something to trade or sell should I need to. I certainly won’t just slug my $3,000 dollar computer around without basic protection for the device. That’s good advise to anyone. I don’t see how your post contravenes good sense just because you can’t stop the ravishes of time.
 
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dburkhanaev

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It seems to me like some people are more worried about their possesions than their own body and health.

Are you equally critical of for example your dental fillings quality and imperfections?

Do you even know what are the ingredients of your composite filling?
I can agree with you that’s the case with many people, but there’s not enough context from a forum post which is completely unrelated to health, to extrapolate that these individuals suffer from a lack of propriety. This is the second post I’ve seen here which is critical of persons for attempting to either ensure their device is defect free or sharing their experience with protecting the safety of their devices.

These two things are completely different categories and with due respect, your comments are a non-sequitur. There’s no way you could reach such a conclusion without making wild speculation. And frankly speaking, it’s just as idiotic to spend $2,000+ on an item and then just ignore a potential defect or fail to take proper care and prevention. It’s just as bad as not caring for your health. Because you have toe work very hard for this money. It shows a lack of self love and self respect to spend a lot of money and then not proceed carefully.
 

Chevysales

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Sep 30, 2019
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I'm a bit amazed at the problems I've read about on QC as my is flawless - it's possible the problems that they're having with Zero-COVID policy means fewer people or rushed schedules. It may be that someone tightened one or two screws slightly too tight.
mine too... at least I have yet to find any visual flaws 3 days in so keeping fingers crossed.
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**** opps it’s now day 4 and in bright sunlight I see a very very slight wavy plastic part at bottom of screen attached to hinge and vents.

I don’t see it in normal use.
Went to look at Apple store earlier and both displays (14 and 16) were worse than mine. On mine it’s very slight.

After viewing the iFixit pictures someone here posted it appears to come from the clips which are used for that piece. That’s what a tech on Reddit said.

It’s very slight and after running Geekbench 5 and getting higher scores across the board than other 16” 64gb/2tb machines listed on their browser for 10/32/16 no way I return for this. ? I’ll take the faster tool.

I went thru that nonsense on my 2019 and got one that looked flawless yet was slowest one on benchmarks. Not worth it after 8 weeks. Welcome to the world with Covid dictating manufacturing everything!

But other than this it’s flawless and frankly even with this it’s flawless to me. As speed overcomes this.
 
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