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Okay, I have a confession to make. I want to make bread but I can’t. I have a missing gene that makes it impossible. So, okay, here it is; I bought a bread machine. I’ve been keeping it a secret but need to come clean.

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A traditional white loaf (rear) and an Italian herb.
 
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Okay, I have a confession to make. I want to make bread but I can’t. I have a missing gene that makes it impossible. So, okay, here it is; I bought a bread machine. I’ve been keeping it a secret but need to come clean.

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A traditional white loaf (rear) and an Italian herb.
Is "Italian herb" a code name for "oregano", i.e. Cannabis sativa?

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Except with the Feds.
 
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Okay, I have a confession to make. I want to make bread but I can’t. I have a missing gene that makes it impossible. So, okay, here it is; I bought a bread machine. I’ve been keeping it a secret but need to come clean.

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A traditional white loaf (rear) and an Italian herb.

Have you ever tried making bread with beer (the used a dark, rich, slightly sweet stout) as an ingredient? The Belgians do that, (and a friend of mine tried it when making bread) and it is delicious.
 
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Have you ever tried making bread with beer (the used a dark, rich, slightly sweet stout) as an ingredient? The Belgians do that, (and a friend of mine tried it when making bread) and it is delicious.

I haven’t. I ordered a bread cookbook so maybe I will....assuming the beer can make it from the measuring cup into the flour without being intercepted.
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Is "Italian herb" a code name for "oregano", i.e. Cannabis sativa?

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Except with the Feds.

I’ll add you to my super exclusive loaf of bread Christmas gift list.
 

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I haven’t. I’ve order a bread cookbook so maybe I will....assuming the beer can make it from the measuring cup into the flour without being intercepted.
Yes a major problem - which is why people used to use horrible things like "cooking wine" - thankfully the advice now is to cook with what you would drink.
 
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I haven’t. I ordered a bread cookbook so maybe I will....assuming the beer can make it from the measuring cup into the flour without being intercepted.

I remember having astonishingly good bread that came with a meal which I consumed (with beer naturally) in an amazing pub, down a side street in the medieval centre of Bruges several years ago.

Anyway, I asked about the bread, and the staff informed me that it had been made with beer among the other more usual baking ingredients; the colour alone suggested dark beer, but it was a delicious, moist bread and I was absolutely bowled over, both by the idea of beer in bread and by the taste and texture of this bread.

Yes a major problem - which is why people used to use horrible things like "cooking wine" - thankfully the advice now is to cook with what you would drink.

Absolutely.

Don't put anything into food that you wouldn't wish to put in your own mouth.

I remember "cooking wine" - an absolute culinary horror.

Use good wine and good beer in cooking.
 
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Lamb rack with cucumber & radish salad.

I like lamb very much. It’s easy and sooo tasty. Sorry about the focus, dish and presentation. I was starving...and so are the girls...they think.

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[doublepost=1535932906][/doublepost]It might be blasphemous but the scotch goes so well with the savory lamb and the vinegar in the salad.
Nice combo! ;)
 
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Dinner: Definitely string beans and onions, which usually means scrambled eggs and onions too.

Don’t know why I bought cold food from Whole Foods just now including string beans and shallots...should have bought the grilled chicken salad from Paris Baguette.
[doublepost=1551892123][/doublepost]Right now though, trying not to finish dark chocolate bar with almond bits in one sitting.
 

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Instant Pot beef stew. Beef, rainbow carrots, purple and Yukon Gold potatoes , rainbow carrots, mushrooms, onions, garlic and a very healthy dose of dry sherry. There will also be a cast iron skillet of buttermilk cornbread. Can't wait for it to finish!
 

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Instant Pot beef stew. Beef, rainbow carrots, purple and Yukon Gold potatoes , rainbow carrots, mushrooms, onions, garlic and a very healthy dose of dry sherry. There will also be a cast iron skillet of buttermilk cornbread. Can't wait for it to finish!
Sounds fantastic, How can you go wrong with so many rainbows thrown in there.
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Over the last few dinners...Shakshuka with bread; roasted eggplant with tomato bulgur, minted yogurt, and preserved lemon; black bean enchiladas with roasted poblano and spinach sauce; spaghetti with rapini, marinara, and parmesan.
I am pretty sure I could give up meat if I had you cooking for me. :)
 

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Last night, reading stuff about gumbo and jambalaya, I ordered a book, Chef Paul Prudhommes Louisiana Kitchen which was recommended as a source for recipes for gumbo and jambalaya (neither of which I have ever had, but long to try out and see if I can prepare them properly).
[doublepost=1551966873][/doublepost]Food brings back some of the most powerful memories - Proust's account of the searing recall of his memory of madeleines worked because everyone could relate to the powerful force of this sort of memory.

And, it is not always predictable what foods trigger such powerful memories.

For me, it is not roasts, or casseroles, or pasta, or salads (I can prepare perfectly good - and sometimes, excellent - versions of these dishes - possibly better than my mum, if truth be told), but pancakes.

When we were children, my mum used to make wonderful pancakes on Shrove Tuesday.

In latter years, we once seriously splurged: I prepared homemade apple sauce, - and made certain that we had the other ingredients - thus, we had apple sauce and maple syrup, and also sour cream and caviar, and the classic lemon juice and sugar and berries with our pancakes.

My mum made the actual pancakes.

That particular day, - perhaps around a decade ago, or a little over a decade ago - as an indulged adult who sought (ever so fleetingly) to return to the cherished certainties of childhood, I was stuffed, but happily.

Then, within a short space of a depressingly few years, she was claimed by dementia.

And this past Christmas, she passed away.

So, nowadays, if I want pancakes, perforce, I must prepare them for myself; but, it is not quite the same thing - some foods evoke the memory of the comfort blanket of parental love, and, for me, pancakes are one of those.
 
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Cherry tomatoes (organic etc) are roasting in the oven, drizzled with olive oil, sea salt and ground black pepper.

Diced leeks (organic etc) will be sautéed in a pan with olive oil, and around half a head of finely sliced (organic) garlic; to which will be added a little soy sauce, and a dash of chilli, and the roasted tomatoes and their roasting juices.

Served with fresh, soft French bread.
 
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I suspect people often overthink bread making.

In the back of my fridge lives my sourdough starter… been around the world with me. 14 years old.
I bake very seldom, but a day or so before I need to, I take it out, pour off the liquid on top. Scrape the top layer, dollop a couple tablespoons into a fresh container and feed with some flours. Preferably a mix of interesting and organic and not just boring white.
Warmish water; and leave in a warmish place. And by evening it is feisty and risen and bubbly.
Another fresh feed and left over night. Ready to go the next morning.

Flour, water, salt, long rests between folding (none of this kneading the dough for hours…)
Form in their baskets, leave to proof. Out on the kitchen top if I need to bake that evening, or in the fridge over night.

Hottest oven you can imagine, an old quarry tile in the bottom.
Turn out on to the tile, slash with a blade… back into the oven.
Moisture. Spray with water a couple times early on.
40 minutes later.
Best bread in town.

Halp! I started sourdough starter a couple days ago. It’s day 3 of hanging out on the counter. I hope I’m doing this right. I’m kinda lost.

In your example...

How much starter dough lives in your refrigerator?

How much of the starter do you use? (Oh, I see 2T or so.)

What are you baking with it?

How big of loaf or product does it yield?

How do you prevent running out of starter? How do you properly replace the starter you’ve removed?

Sorry for the barrage of questions.
 

arkitect

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Halp! I started sourdough starter a couple days ago. It’s day 3 of hanging out on the counter. I hope I’m doing this right. I’m kinda lost.

In your example...

How much starter dough lives in your refrigerator?

How much of the starter do you use? (Oh, I see 2T or so.)

What are you baking with it?

How big of loaf or product does it yield?

How do you prevent running out of starter? How do you properly replace the starter you’ve removed?

Sorry for the barrage of questions.
Happy to help!

I would let your new starter grow up a few more days. It really needs oomph to do all the heavy lifting while the bread bakes. Don't rush it.

The starter in my fridge is I'd say about a cup unproofed and about 2 cups when up and risen)

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Sourdough Bread Recipe:
I work in percentages to calculate amounts, easier to make quantities.

Sourdough Bread

% 2 loaves 1 loaf
Flour 100 750g 375g
Water 75 520g 260g
Starter 20 150g 90g
Salt 2 16g 8g


Mix flour, starter and water till mixed.
Leave to rest 20 minutes.

Add salt. Mix well and knead till smooth — just a couple minutes.

Bulk Rise 2hrs
French folds at 30 minutes intervals.

Divide and pre-shape
Rest 30 minutes

Shape into tight balls
Place in baskets

Final proof 3hrs on the counter or overnight in the fridge

Heat oven to highest.

Turn out onto heated stone or baking sheet.
Slash with a sharp blade.

Spray with water mister once or twice.

30-40 minutes…

Cool.

Edit:
BTW, don't waste the starter you throw away; it makes great pancakes with a bit of milk added. Drop tablespoons on a hot griddle. Eat hot. :D

Edit 2:
Two great books to get hold of:
Bourke Street bakery
Tartine Bread




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arkitect

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@arkitect - I’m speechless. Thank you so much. Gosh it looks complicated for this farmboy turned city kid.

The bread looks perfect. Really...that’s not a typical shallow American compliment. They’re beautiful.
Thanks! No problemo. :) I love talking about cooking. Years of advice to share. :D

As I said in the other thread, just don't over think it. Bread is easy. Experiment, after all the ingredients are not that expensive. Water, Flour and salt — oh, and heat — Lotsa heat!

So please ask away anytime!
 

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@arkitect - I’m speechless. Thank you so much. Gosh it looks complicated for this farmboy turned city kid.

The bread looks perfect. Really...that’s not a typical shallow American compliment. They’re beautiful.

Agree completely.

They do look absolutely beautiful - and invite thoughts redolent of greedy attack.

Thank you @arkitect - that reads as though one could easily enough attempt it.
 
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