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Igor2020

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I think the designers had an off day. Wtf happend in calendar with the new update???? The way to enter a new meeting how to set the time is super crazy difficult ?? why did you guys do this?
 

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Ansath

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I think the designers had an off day. Wtf happend in calendar with the new update???? The way to enter a new meeting how to set the time is super crazy difficult ?? why did you guys do this?

You either slide it like you did before, or type it. Some people don't have great use of their hands, so typing is easier. Best of both worlds.
 

orev

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The time picker in general is terrible (also used in the alarm clock, etc.). The concept of typing in a time is, eh, ok, I can see how you might want that, but if you want to scroll the time the interface is almost unusable. The touch target is far too small and you can't see what you're doing when using it.
 

danmart

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if you want to scroll the time the interface is almost unusable. The touch target is far too small and you can't see what you're doing when using it.
Once you have touched either hours or minutes you can use the whole height of the screen as a ‘spinner’ so your finger can quickly be outside the target window.
 
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C DM

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That fact that this needs to be explained instead of it working in an obvious way is proof that there's a problem here.
At the same time there are all kinds of things that need and needed explanations to all kinds of people even since before iPhone came to exist (that's why manuals, tutorials, and all that exist), so that's sort of neither here nor there in that respect.
 

riverfreak

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So you can either try to manipulate the worlds smallest scroll wheel, use the whole height of the screen as a novel scroll UI never used anywhere else in iOS, or type in the time ... on a telephone keypad?

Yeah, totally intuitive. And where’s the ending time?

I wouldn’t have thought it possible, but the stock Calendar app just keeps getting worse.
 

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So you can either try to manipulate the worlds smallest scroll wheel, use the whole height of the screen as a novel scroll UI never used anywhere else in iOS, or type in the time ... on a telephone keypad?

Yeah, totally intuitive. And where’s the ending time?

I don’t see why typing in the time is unintuitive—the keypad comes up, and you type. I agree that adjusting the end time is unintuitive, however; you have to drag the big calendar “up” to get to the “Ends” box. It seems like the calendar should disappear after you choose the date.

I’m going to play around with other calendar apps to remind myself how they handle setting start/end times, as this does feel clunky to me.

EDIT: Ok, so in Google Calendar, the big calendar disappears after you choose the date... you then choose the time (this applies both to start and end time). In Android, the calendar comes up as a separate little window, that goes away after you choose the date and click “OK”; in the iOS version of the app, the calendar automatically collapses after you select a date, and a scroll wheel appears for choosing the time.

In the new iOS Calendar app, it is definitely awkward that the calendar (date selector) never disappears until you click “Add” to complete the process of creating the new event.
 
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Ansath

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I don’t see why typing in the time is unintuitive—the keypad comes up, and you type. I agree that adjusting the end time is unintuitive, however; you have to drag the big calendar “up” to get to the “Ends” box. It seems like the calendar should disappear after you choose the date.

You can tap the Start line to close it after finishing. Same as pre-iOS 14
 
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itsmilo

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What i find irritating is how you need to type it in like backwards so if I want to set a time to 09:00 I have to type 9 but then it appears as 00:09 so I need to fill it with 0 from behind.

it’s like those ATMs I saw in Asia where I kept on almost withdrawing the wrong amount of money because you had to type in the amount so strangely as well
 

dannyyankou

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I think the designers had an off day. Wtf happend in calendar with the new update???? The way to enter a new meeting how to set the time is super crazy difficult ?? why did you guys do this?
You can go back to the old date picker by tapping the name of the month btw. Well at least for months.

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itsmilo

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You type “900”. How is that backwards?

what i mean is the indicator is confusing cuz it puts the 9 at the end (minutes) and then fills it up from the right by default (and if you don’t tap into it first) instead of going left (hour) to right (minutes) as taught since 1st grade

for instance if I type „12“ I would expect it to start at the left (hours) and not at the right (Screenshot)

like who writes minutes before hours unless that’s an American thing like your date being written after the month ...

ALSO if I do actually remember to tap into the „hour“ block first and type in e. g. „12“. Why doesn’t it automatically then jump to the minutes field? Instead it keeps changing the hours field all over. if for example I write 12 3 it should fill it with „12:3“ not replace the 12 with a 3. it seems all very anti intuitive and against all UX habits
 

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chabig

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True. I think they do it this way so you don’t need to enter leading zeroes. For example, to type 8:45 you only type “8”, “4”, “5”. If it filled in left to right you’d have to type the leading zero: “0”, “8”, “4”, “5”.
 
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