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hajime

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Even there are thermal and noise issues, manufacturers continue to make thinner laptops for 8 Gen cpu.A bit disappointed that Lenovo even removed the signature feature of retractable keyboard to make the X1 Yoga Gen 4 thinner. Am I correct that we need to wait for laptops with ice lake cpu due to the lower TDP of about 15?
 

kazmac

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Any place but here or there....
I'd describe it as just portable, however too heavy to be used on the go, the small framed 17" is far more interesting to me, being not much larger than some 15" notebooks.

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Portable, good point. I think Dave said it was at least 10lbs.?!? Surface Pro came to mind due to the kickstand back and detachable keyboard. It has everything I need and then some, except for pen capability (but the folks who purchase this probably would use a Wacom tablet for art/design needs too).

The mothership would be an around the house desktop replacement for me. I need the desktop in a laptop form factor when I replace my iMac.

This Asus made me look at gaming/desktop replacement laptops seriously as a viable post iMac machine. I like that.

Plus, it’s cool (and has a neat cooling system to boot). Certainly makes me want to look at an Asus as a starter machine too.
 

Queen6

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Portable, good point. I think Dave said it was at least 10lbs.?!? Surface Pro came to mind due to the kickstand back and detachable keyboard. It has everything I need and then some, except for pen capability (but the folks who purchase this probably would use a Wacom tablet for art/design needs too).

The mothership would be an around the house desktop replacement for me. I need the desktop in a laptop form factor when I replace my iMac.

This Asus made me look at gaming/desktop replacement laptops seriously as a viable post iMac machine. I like that.

Plus, it’s cool (and has a neat cooling system to boot). Certainly makes me want to look at an Asus as a starter machine too.

That's what I use, has all the performance & usability and remains to be decently portable (GL703GS). Now ROG is offering a 17" Zephyrus I'll be looking at one.

The Mothership to me is another look on a desktop as it's likely to present the same level of performance, and with two power supplies too unwieldly for air travel.

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kazmac

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Any place but here or there....
That's what I use, has all the performance & usability and remains to be decently portable (GL703GS). Now ROG is offering a 17" Zephyrus I'll be looking at one.

The Mothership to me is another look on a desktop as it's likely to present the same level of performance, and with two power supplies too unwieldly for air travel.

Q-6
I thought you were using an Asus. :)

So many models, so little time. I like the Zephyrus too. Looking forward to hearing what you pick up.
 

kazmac

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ROG is Asus gaming division :) Be summer at the earliest as need to see a real gain over the current GL703GS, and SB-3 is another factor.

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ROG= Thanks. Sounds good.

I might pick up a zenbook model to start with. Beyond the Surface, I recognized HP and Dell laptops at the MS store, but I wasn’t looking at other brands though.
 

hajime

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Good summary of new laptops announced:


Users can upgrade the CPU and GPU of Dell's laptop. That is so good but it is heavy though.
 
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maflynn

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Wouldn't hold my breath as without suitable BIOS updates, even if the hardware is available it's unlikely to work. Some Clevo's & Sager's also have desktop grade CPU's.

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The video also mentions the GPU needing a special daughter card, so you're on the hook for Dell to provide that and you may be paying through the nose. Also you'll be severely limited to what sort of heat sync you can use, desktop CPUs have a plethora of options for cooling the CPU, using a desktop CPU in a laptop may not be a bad idea, but you are limited in what can be used for cooling.
 
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Queen6

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The video also mentions the GPU needing a special daughter card, so you're on the hook for Dell to provide that and you may be paying through the nose. Also you'll be severely limited to what sort of heat sync you can use, desktop CPUs have a plethora of options for cooling the CPU, using a desktop CPU in a laptop may not be a bad idea, but you are limited in what can be used for cooling.

Been done before and never worked out well for the consumer if the OEM doesn't offer the upgrade path you can basically forget it.

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maflynn

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Been done before and never worked out well for the consumer if the OEM doesn't offer the upgrade path you can basically forget it.

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Agreed, but then that machine isn't really geared for the average consumer. Even so a gamer may not be willing to embrace a CPU/GPU upgrade over buying a new gaming laptop - more so if there's an upcharge to that upgrade.
 

Queen6

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Agreed, but then that machine isn't really geared for the average consumer. Even so a gamer may not be willing to embrace a CPU/GPU upgrade over buying a new gaming laptop - more so if there's an upcharge to that upgrade.

Same as previous, great intentions, however more of a sales gimmick. Same is ongoing with some ROG notebooks with desktop AMD CPU's many expected a BIOS update and to swap out the CPU far as I know that's remains very unlikely to happen.

Also given the performance of the current mobile i9 and it's power & cooling requirements I don't see much of a space for the Area 51, given an ROG G703GX with i9 & GTX 1080 requires two 280W power supplies to fully power it and weighing in at 4.7 Kg :eek::)

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I've never considered gaming laptops to be laptops in any traditional sense as far as portability goes.
 

maflynn

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I've never considered gaming laptops to be laptops in any traditional sense as far as portability goes.
That certainly has been the case for many years, but designs have been evolving. Some of the more garish designs have been replaced with a more muted look. Many makers have embraced a thinner enclosure, as well, so a gaming laptop is not a huge suit case of a machine. There's still large laptops that have garish cases, but there's a hefty selection of nice thin laptops, I'm partial to the Razer look, and MSI is not too ostentatious as well.
 
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c0ppo

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Razer Blade 15, minus the really ugly logo (just put a sticker on there) looks great. It looks better then MBP. At least to me.
But I haven't seen one in person, I'm judging just by watching and reading reviews.
 

maflynn

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Razer Blade 15, minus the really ugly logo (just put a sticker on there) looks great. It looks better then MBP. At least to me.
But I haven't seen one in person, I'm judging just by watching and reading reviews.
I don't mind the logo, in fact, i like that its glowing, but slapping a dbrand skin w/o a cutout is easy enough
 

TSE

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I don't mind the logo, in fact, i like that its glowing, but slapping a dbrand skin w/o a cutout is easy enough

The Mercury edition is really nice. Reminds me of the 2005 - 2007 PowerBooks / MacBook Pros. I don’t mind the Aero 15x either, save for the ugly AERO logo on the bezel.
 
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