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The only thing the iPad Pro's can do that the iPad Air 2 can't is the use of a pencil. So how does that make it a laptop replacement or a professional tablet in comparison to the iPad Air 2?

The keyboard that I use for the iPad Air 2 is even better than the ASK from the iPad Pro, so it's even worse for typing.
Others have answered, but let's just put it like this: You can do professional work on a MacBook Air. It is nicer to do professional work on a MacBook Pro.

Honestly there is probably more of a difference now between the iPad 2017 and the iPad Pro 2017 than there is between a 13" MBA and a 13" MBP. Maybe the TouchBar differentiates it some more, but before the TouchBar I'd argue that they weren't super different. At least with the iPad Pro you get a lot of extra features and capabilities, as others have mentioned.

I think what it comes down to is Apple wanted to add a lot of extra fancy features to the iPad but realized that most people don't need them and some of the features are more beneficial to designers, illustrators, photographers, etc. So they marketed that way. They're predicted to do something similar with the new iPhone, although that might have to do more with trying to advance the platform while managing economies of scale that are too large to introduce major new changes, therefore you end up with a higher price tier to artificially limit the market while allowing for higher end components, pie in the sky thinking made into reality, and higher margins. Without a higher margin iPad Pro I doubt we'd have 120Hz, for instance, or that Apple would have put in the effort to develop the display and Pencil tech that work together so well.
 
No good will come of this thread and anyone who wants to sit here and list all the things that the Pro can do that the iPad Air 2 can't is engaging in a fool's errand. You can list every single feature the Pro has that other iPads don't and the OP (and a million other people) will tell you those things don't count because they're not really Pro features.

Don't fall for this. Don't feed the trolls. Don't start this argument all over again. There are enough of these threads.

Well said.
 
Ram, Screen, Speakers, Space,

I think your on the right track. It's a combination of features that make the Pro for what it is and everyone will utilize all those features differently. But it's nice to have an array of features to take advantage of versus being limited.
 
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well its a nice companion device for my windows tables, and it a nice second screen when i need more screen real-state for my professional workflows.

i think its pro enough for certain things. I certainly love having it along side my mobile workstation. im a pro and i use it so.....
 
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Like Apple's laptop line, the "pro" moniker is mostly a marketing vehicle to drive sales. Yet with that said the IPP offers a couple of benefits that the non-pro iPad doesn't. First it has more ram, so multitasking or demanding apps work more efficiently. Typically the iPad Pro offers a faster processor as well, and finally stylus support. The non-pro iPads still don't have this. That last feature really doesn't mean much to me (As a non-creatative user), but I like the fact that I can multitask some demanding apps, like office apps.

Whilst maybe some of it may be marketing, i think it is based on real world intended use case.

People using an ipad for media consumption and basic home tasks do not need the pro features like the pencil, higher grade CPU, more RAM.

For those doing "work" (i.e., using it as part of their profession - that's what professional use means - as part of your profession, whatever that may be) - those features are perhaps worth spending extra money for.

Does this mean you can't do work on a non-pro ipad? NO of course not. However the features aimed at work use (i.e., in the ipad Pro) are features that regular home users may not need and may not feel are worth paying for.

And that's fine. If these features are not going to make your life easier at work and thus make you able to do your job better, they probably aren't worth paying for. But for me, for example, the pencil will save me many hours of time - being able to sketch diagrams out so i actually have a record of stuff in 5 minutes (maybe even including inline photos of the gear on the diagram), rather than trying to use some diagram app or wait until i can get to a machine that will run a copy of visio, or use a piece of paper i will lose is killer.

The additional expense of an ipad pro + pencil in that instance instead of a regular ipad that doesn't have that feature is easily paid for in saved time and better quality documentation.
 
Given I have 2 of the new IPPs, one 10.5 and one 12.9G2, i must be more professional than everyone else.
I will have to email HR later for an increase to my salary... I'm feeling I'm all superior and 20% better!
 
The only thing the iPad Pro's can do that the iPad Air 2 can't is the use of a pencil. So how does that make it a laptop replacement or a professional tablet in comparison to the iPad Air 2?

The keyboard that I use for the iPad Air 2 is even better than the ASK from the iPad Pro, so it's even worse for typing.

The 'pro' is such a marketing gimmick. Apple have been iterating the iPad since inception; all the features they say are 'pro' would have made it on to the regular iteration cycle anyway. Apple just needed a way to justify adding a few hundred more $$$s on the sale price to beat inflation, so they now slap a 'pro' moniker on to any of their new products.

Pro doesn't equal professional, it equals high-end consumer.
Full disclosure - I own the 10.5" with pencil and SK and love it. I am no way a professional.
 
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The 'pro' is such a marketing gimmick. Apple have been iterating the iPad since inception; all the features they say are 'pro' would have made it on to the regular iteration cycle anyway. Apple just needed a way to justify adding a few hundred more $$$s on the sale price to beat inflation, so they now slap a 'pro' moniker on to any of their new products.

Pro doesn't equal professional, it equals high-end consumer.
Full disclosure - I own the 10.5" with pencil and SK and love it. I am no way a professional.

Damn you, i so wanted to be the ultimate professional.. :oops:
Can i sue for the false advertising? ;)
 
But if people use it for work, does that not mean professional? I think people get too hung up one what professional means.

Many businesses and folks use the non pro models of iPads for work in a "professional" manner. My doctor been using them for years before the pro model came out.
 
Many businesses and folks use the non pro models of iPads for work in a "professional" manner. My doctor been using them for years before the pro model came out.
Yep, and where I work they do the same. My point remains the same, if its being used for work (regardless if we're talking iPad, MBP, MBA), then its a professional product ;)
 
The only thing the iPad Pro's can do that the iPad Air 2 can't is the use of a pencil. So how does that make it a laptop replacement or a professional tablet in comparison to the iPad Air 2?

The keyboard that I use for the iPad Air 2 is even better than the ASK from the iPad Pro, so it's even worse for typing.

Compared to your iPad Air:
Better screen
fast refresh rate and performance
faster cpu
faster storage
more ram
works with the pencil
larger display options
multitasking is faster and in iOS 11 is vastly improved.

So, yeah, if you want to use a tablet for work it is head and shoulders above the Air 2.
 
Compared to your iPad Air:
Better screen
fast refresh rate and performance
faster cpu
faster storage
more ram
works with the pencil
larger display options
multitasking is faster and in iOS 11 is vastly improved.

So, yeah, if you want to use a tablet for work it is head and shoulders above the Air 2.

As most of what you listed that mentions better / faster/ more should be when compared to the 3 year or so old air 2. Just about every new iOS device that comes out is better , faster etc.... they could have called it air 3 or now air 4 with those features. The pro term is just advertising
 
Well, so our iPad Pro has to be polite, be efficient, and kill everybody it meets?!

(I wonder who here gets the reference)
 
Compared to your iPad Air:
Better screen
fast refresh rate and performance
faster cpu
faster storage
more ram
works with the pencil
larger display options
multitasking is faster and in iOS 11 is vastly improved.

So, yeah, if you want to use a tablet for work it is head and shoulders above the Air 2.

Not its not, they are the same... i have an Air and a 12.9 and a 10.5 and they ALL work 100% the same and none of those things make any difference in terms of what i can or cant do.
 
Not its not, they are the same... i have an Air and a 12.9 and a 10.5 and they ALL work 100% the same and none of those things make any difference in terms of what i can or cant do.

good point, up to the user

I have no use for the pencil. If I was to get a pro model, it would do nothing more for me than the air 2. nothing I do with my iPad taxes it for performance. I would think most developers will develop for the regular iPad, not pro model in order to sell more to the mainstream. If an app is so taxing that it won't run well on 2017 non pro iPad, its not going to sell as many.
 
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Some advantages of the Pro is the better screen, ProMotion, quad speakers, pencil support, smart connector, 4GB of ram for better multitasking, and a much faster processor. The Pro designation doesn't necessarily mean it can do anything different, just more features. Similar to MacBook to MacBook Pro. Not sure why people don't understand this.
 
Using Nebo for handwriting recognition, Tru-Tone, Quad speakers, higher screen refresh rate, larger screen - there are any number of reasons why the iPad Pro is better than the Air2.

Professional is down to the user.
 
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Not its not, they are the same... i have an Air and a 12.9 and a 10.5 and they ALL work 100% the same and none of those things make any difference in terms of what i can or cant do.

I didn’t say you couldn’t work the same on them, I said the performance is massively better on the pro. Especially the 2nd gen pro models. My wife has my iPad Air 2 and it feels incredibly sluggish, even in basic tasks like web browsing and email compared to the Pro.
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As most of what you listed that mentions better / faster/ more should be when compared to the 3 year or so old air 2. Just about every new iOS device that comes out is better , faster etc.... they could have called it air 3 or now air 4 with those features. The pro term is just advertising
They very well could have done. They are using the pro moniker to highlight the performance difference vs the normal iPads.
 
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