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Piggie

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I was talking specifically about the design and the fact it scratches so easily. Also I've read several reviews that say they're not getting more than a day charge. Let's wait and see what Watch gets after its in people's hands. And I would expect a non descript plastic band with plastic display to be cheaper than a watch with aluminum, glass and custom bands.

Sure.

But if you see, I'm TRYING to be positive.

Some people prefer the 360 - Shape
Some people may prefer the Microsoft model, Sensors, waterproof, battery, price.
Some people may prefer the Apple watch.

Trying to be positive.

You always seem to be negative towards anything that's not Apple.

Can't you see that What Apple's offers may not just be what some people want, and other things from other people may appeal more?

How about trying to be positive about some aspects of other brands/designs, and accepting that other people may like other things.

It would be a horrid world if everyone liked the same.

We can be happy and have different likes, and accept what we like others may not.

I'm sure many will love the Apple watch, and many will hate it.
Neither is right.
 

JayLenochiniMac

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If you ignore the bezel, the 360 really does have the ability to potentially look a really nice thing on your wrist. Just give it some time.

http://phandroid.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Gold-Moto-360-1-640x820.jpg

http://img.talkandroid.com/uploads/2014/11/Moto_360_Champagne_Gold_01.jpg

http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/Moto_360_18_mm_vs_23_mm_Different_Views_2_Wide.png

I do look forward to later models, and hope they stick to their guns and develop this screen further, as for many, it offers a look a square display with bezels all around the outside just will never be able to do.

Those are all renders, no different from the Moto 360 render in black that everyone was swooning over, until they see the real-life photos.

In contrast, real-life photos of the :apple:Watch look as nice or better than the renders on Apple.com
 

Piggie

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Those are all renders, no different from the Moto 360 render in black that everyone was swooning over, until they see the real-life photos.

In contrast, real-life photos of the :apple:Watch look as nice or better than the renders on Apple.com

Well.

I don't think I'd pay $1000 let alone $5000 for something based on this RL photo.

http://www.cnet.de/wp-content/galle...tail/apple-event-apple-watch-edition-5593.jpg

http://cnet2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r...f1e6/apple-event-apple-watch-edition-5602.jpg

Just looks cheap and nasty

As with all things, we can find good and bad photo's to try and prove a point.

And again, I say, different people love different things.
 

JayLenochiniMac

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Well.

I don't think I'd pay $1000 let alone $5000 for something based on this RL photo.

http://www.cnet.de/wp-content/galle...tail/apple-event-apple-watch-edition-5593.jpg

As with all things, we can find good and bad photo's to try and prove a point.

And again, I say, different people love different things.

That's a ladies watch. You can't pay me $10,000 to wear a ladies watch. That shade of bright red looks feminine compared to, say, burgundy. It'll, however, look good on my wife.

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Lloydbm41

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Only one of my Watch images was a computer render. And that's only because I couldn't find any hands on images with a non black UI.

Oh and I'm sure any of Apple's competitors would love to have a flop as successful as TV. :)

FYI, both Roku and Chromecast are now, and have been for quite some time, better sellers and more successful than ATV. Even Amazon's Fire TV looks like it will surpass ATV this quarter. Did I miss any other competitors?

As for the Apple Watch, I would never buy one for myself, but I'm a man. The Apple Watch looks very feminine to me. I think it would look okay on a woman or child, but on a guy? Nope.

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I'm just going to take a wild guess we won't read this when Watch comes out. I'm assuming the Microsoft Band has a plastic screen? It sure doesn't look very comfortable.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/micr...eeds-to-walk-first-1415128568?mod=djemptech_t

Ergonomically, the wearable is pretty terrible. It’s awkward, wide at the top while a competing product, Samsung’s Gear Fit, is smartly curved.

The Band has a clever metal clasp that slides to make a better fit, but it rubbed my wrist the wrong way. And it’s so easily scratched, it looked battle damaged by Day Two. I scraped the bezel against a wall by just shoving a box into a closet. (Microsoft says it is offering screen protectors at its stores.)

Here's another photo of the MS Band. Apparently the screen scratches so easily Microsoft is now including a screen protector with the purchase.

And even Paul Thurrott says the band is uncomfortable and gets caught on things all the time.
http://m.winsupersite.com/microsoft-band/microsoft-band-second-impressions

Why are you comparing a smartwatch to the Microsoft band? It is a fitness band, with limited smartwatch features. But primarily designed to be a fitness band. Why not compare a bicycle to a car while you're at it? They both have wheels and take you places, but the similarities end there.
 
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Rogifan

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Well.

I don't think I'd pay $1000 let alone $5000 for something based on this RL photo.

http://www.cnet.de/wp-content/galle...tail/apple-event-apple-watch-edition-5593.jpg

http://cnet2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r...f1e6/apple-event-apple-watch-edition-5602.jpg

Just looks cheap and nasty

As with all things, we can find good and bad photo's to try and prove a point.

And again, I say, different people love different things.

18 karat gold looks cheap and nasty? Really?
 

kdarling

macrumors P6
Uniformity is not odd at all. The flat tire is ugly and makes it plain as day that the display isn't reallh round. On one of LG's watches they used a fake tachymeter to hide the bezel and give the illusion of a round display. But doing that makes the watch face HUGE, almost like you strapped a Nest thermometer on your wrist.

The Nest is over 3" in diameter. The LG R and the Moto 360 are 1.8" (46mm).

They're like other big watches:

moto_vs_others.jpg

To me, the Moto looks like like a thicker version of this:

arne_watch.png
 

Piggie

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18 karat gold looks cheap and nasty? Really?

Sorry, what had gold got to do with if something looks nice?

The two are not connected in any way.

You could take a steel apple watch and for a few dollars make it look exactly the same as the gold one.

There are plenty of items that are gold colored. they look horrid.
If it's ultra thin gold plate or super thick solid gold, it only affects how much its worth in dollars, it does not change it's looks.
 

SHNXX

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For me on the 360.



I love the way the screen goes right out to the very edge for almost all of the face, that REALLY is a giant plus point over the Apple watch that has 1/4 of it's entire screen as dead bezel.



It's funny when you think about it. You have a full round screen, right to the edge, which looks lovely, and a section of blank/bezel zone at the bottom.



And of course, I think everyone, in me would love that to not be there, and perhaps in time and future models it won't be there, but it's a price they were willing to pay for this model.



Whereas, on the Apple watch you have a thick black blank/bezel on all 4 sides, not just at the bottom, but somehow that is amazing.



Bezel only at bottom = terrible

Bezel on all 4 sides = superb



That's a kinda odd logic when you think about it. :D



And yes, I do agree the connection between the strap and the body should be done better and not at the bottom. I don't like it like that.



That is in reality just a easy styling fix, it's no leap of technology to relocate the strap in a future model.



The screen bezel at the bottom will take more but I'm sure they will crack it.



So...



Tweak the body look, improve the strap location/blending into the body better, and hopefully in time remove the bezel totally and it really would be a stunner of a thing.



If you ignore the bezel, the 360 really does have the ability to potentially look a really nice thing on your wrist. Just give it some time.



http://phandroid.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Gold-Moto-360-1-640x820.jpg



http://img.talkandroid.com/uploads/2014/11/Moto_360_Champagne_Gold_01.jpg



http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/Moto_360_18_mm_vs_23_mm_Different_Views_2_Wide.png



I do look forward to later models, and hope they stick to their guns and develop this screen further, as for many, it offers a look a square display with bezels all around the outside just will never be able to do.


Good god that's ugly

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The Nest is over 3" in diameter. The LG R and the Moto 360 are 1.8" (46mm).



They're like other big watches:



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To me, the Moto looks like like a thicker version of this:



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Good god those are some gawdy cheap looking junk watches.
 

samiznaetekto

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Any round smartwatch looks OK only when it displays time. (Which, by definition of smartwatch, small fraction of its functions.) In every other use, it looks totally weird.
 

matrix07

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And what's up with that tacky gold trim around the button?

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That bit of gold is so out of place. Talks about design indecision.

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Watch is OLED and most of the UI is black so the bezel doesn't stick out as much. In fact doing a Google search on Watch I find very few instances of a white background anywhere. Just text message seems to be black text on white background.

I don't want to bring my iOS 7/8 aesthetic bashing into this thread but my oh my.. why won't Apple give iOS a little bit of black? I'm so tired of white.
Looking at :apple:Watch interface it's so beautiful I want that kind of design on my phone.
 

Julien

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Jun 30, 2007
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.....I don't want to bring my iOS 7/8 aesthetic bashing into this thread but my oh my.. why won't Apple give iOS a little bit of black? I'm so tired of white.
Looking at :apple:Watch interface it's so beautiful I want that kind of design on my phone.

Could be Apple wants to do more white on the aWatch but since it's OLED and batt life is paramount then you go with as much 'free' black as you can.
 

Rogifan

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Nov 14, 2011
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I don't want to bring my iOS 7/8 aesthetic bashing into this thread but my oh my.. why won't Apple give iOS a little bit of black? I'm so tired of white.
Looking at :apple:Watch interface it's so beautiful I want that kind of design on my phone.

I'm going to guess battery life. Perhaps if future iPhone displays are OLED we'll see more black. But I'd love a dark mode on iOS. I love the Spotify app, mostly because the UI is dark. There are ways to do it I don't make it look horrid like Windows phone UI (which I hate).

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Could be Apple wants to do more white on the aWatch but since it's OLED and batt life is paramount then you go with as much 'free' black as you can.

I get the feeling they chose a black because of battery life as you say and because Black doesn't make the bezel stand out as much as white would.
 

matrix07

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Could be Apple wants to do more white on the aWatch but since it's OLED and batt life is paramount then you go with as much 'free' black as you can.

It could be but thank God how fortunate for us since it will be a bad decision. White strains the eyes and doesn't look good on a lot of thing, like Photos for example (the white surrounding will have effect on the color of photo you're seeing. That's why Apple still retains the ability to see picture on "black" background in iOS 7/8 but you need another tap just to do that. Very awful).
And in the end, Apple can't keep uniformity with White so why make apps uniform in the first place. Such a naive decision.
Here one example where Apple doesn't give a hoot on app uniformity it created.

watch4p5TW.jpg


:end rant & back to topic:
 

SHNXX

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I don't think the apple watch will look amazing in person but the Milanese loop version looks quite chic, much better than the 500 dollar price would suggest.
It looks as nice as a $2000 watch.
 

JayLenochiniMac

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Personally I am not impressed by the real-life photos at all:

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I'm not a fan of either of these gold models (too feminine) and the stainless steel band looks a bit boring IMO. Maybe I'm wrong and they look better in person. I prefer the other models.

I don't think the apple watch will look amazing in person but the Milanese loop version looks quite chic, much better than the 500 dollar price would suggest.
It looks as nice as a $2000 watch.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Milanese loop bumps the price up to over $1000 from the prospective $499 starting price for the Standard models.
 

SHNXX

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I'm not a fan of either of these gold models (too feminine) and the stainless steel band looks a bit boring IMO. Maybe I'm wrong and they look better in person. I prefer the other models.







I wouldn't be surprised if the Milanese loop bumps the price up to over $1000 from the prospective $499 starting price for the Standard models.


I think it's well worth $1000 for novelty factor.
Early adopting is never cheap.
Google glass is a piece of **** n it cost a lot too.
 

Rogifan

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^^
Here's a thought: don't get a feminine version of the watch. The nice thing is there are choices and not everyone is forced to get the gold model.
 

matrix07

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Google glass is a piece of **** n it cost a lot too.

That's one way to look at it. Cheaper. Better looking. More functions. And you don't get punched in the face.
What a bargain! :D

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Personally I am not impressed by the real-life photos at all:

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I don't have any problems with those looks at all. The shape, the form, the color all going together really well. The color of the band in the first picture is actually quite nice. Color like that is very hard to get right. But of course I looked at it through a lady's eyes, which is a targeted market. :)
 
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