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JayLenochiniMac

macrumors G5
Nov 7, 2007
12,819
2,390
New Sanfrakota
Ooh I like that. :)

Difficult to tell, but I think this one is also the Milanese loop.

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samiznaetekto

macrumors 65816
Dec 26, 2009
1,016
24
Looking at the milanese loop, I wonder if there will be problems with magnet sticking to some metal object and undoing the loop? E.g. in public transportation, your wrist touches a steel bar as you're exiting, the yawnWatch falls off, the doors close, and you see the departing train with someone picking your mehWatch and smiling.

Also, probably won't take much force for a thief to yank it from your wrist...
 

JoeG4

macrumors 68030
Jan 11, 2002
2,875
540
I kinda feel like the 360 has the most minimalist design. That's why I like it
 

bransoj

macrumors 68000
Jul 31, 2013
1,563
739
Looking at the milanese loop, I wonder if there will be problems with magnet sticking to some metal object and undoing the loop? E.g. in public transportation, your wrist touches a steel bar as you're exiting, the yawnWatch falls off, the doors close, and you see the departing train with someone picking your mehWatch and smiling.

Also, probably won't take much force for a thief to yank it from your wrist...

This has been raised before and it seems as though its searching for a fault a little. If you look at how this loop straps work they double back on one end of the watch and then connect with the magnet so as well as the magnet coming detached you would need the strap to loosen enough to ride over your wrist and hand.

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I think it would be hard for someone to not notice that the watch had become loose before its loose enough to slide over the wrist and hand as well. Maybe they could have the watch emit a beep or something if it detects that its lost contact with the skin in the same way it does with regard to re-entering your pin for apple pay.
 

Rogifan

macrumors Penryn
Nov 14, 2011
24,735
32,202
I'd take the Almost 360 over this though. Ben Bajarin says its twice the size of Watch. :eek:

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h/t Ben Bajarin
 

mKTank

macrumors 68000
Jul 2, 2010
1,537
3
My biggest issue with the Almost 360 (besides the flat tire display) is the band connects at the bottom of the watch rather than the middle which makes it looks like a big aluminum tire is sitting on top of a cheap leather strap. It doesn't look like it was designed as one product whereas with Watch you can clearly see it was designed as one holistic product.

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Btw, for those who think the Watch is too big and bulky, this is the LG G Watch R (who comes up with these names?). Gotta love how the text is slightly cut off in the first photo yet the Watch is supposedly ugly and a bad design because it's watch face isn't round. And the LG watch uses a fake tachymeter to hide the bezel (and give the illusion of a completely round display). But it seems completely out of place when not viewing an analog watch face.

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Uh yeah that 'concern' makes no sense though. If it were linked to the middle of the side of the watch, the band would be hovering, not making contact with the skin, for the first few centimeters. Just how is that a better design?
 

Rogifan

macrumors Penryn
Nov 14, 2011
24,735
32,202
Uh yeah that 'concern' makes no sense though. If it were linked to the middle of the side of the watch, the band would be hovering, not making contact with the skin, for the first few centimeters. Just how is that a better design?

I'm just not a fan of the way the band connects to the watch.

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The Almost 360 bands don't feel like an integral part of the watch, they feel like something that was just tacked on at the end. Like a fat aluminum tire was just laid on top of a leather band. I don't get that feeling with Watch. The Watch feels like it was designed as one harmonious product not the watch and then the bands as an afterthought.

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matrix07

macrumors G3
Jun 24, 2010
8,226
4,895
Uh yeah that 'concern' makes no sense though. If it were linked to the middle of the side of the watch, the band would be hovering, not making contact with the skin, for the first few centimeters. Just how is that a better design?

I haven't worn a watch for quite a while but I can't remember any of my watches looks like someone sticking the watch part ON top of the band like that. It's just weird.
 

mackinmike

macrumors 6502a
May 3, 2012
635
458
I'm just not a fan of the way the band connects to the watch.

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The Almost 360 bands don't feel like an integral part of the watch, they feel like something that was just tacked on at the end. Like a fat aluminum tire was just laid on top of a leather band. I don't get that feeling with Watch. The Watch feels like it was designed as one harmonious product not the watch and then the bands as an afterthought.

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I agree.. The way the band attaches to the watch is unusual..why couldn't they at least engineer the attachment point to the middle rather than bottom. I guess there's room for that in moto720.
 

KPOM

macrumors P6
Oct 23, 2010
18,311
8,326
IF I decide to buy an Watch I think this will be my choice (I don't care if it's more masculine; rose gold will probably be out of my price range):

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I'm worried that the rose gold with rose gray leather will be too feminine for me. How about I buy the rose gold, and you buy that one, and we swap bands? :D

Hopefully Apple also sells bands separately. I might pair the Rose Gold with the blue stainless steel modern buckle. I'd hate to have to buy two watches to get the combination I like.
 

Rogifan

macrumors Penryn
Nov 14, 2011
24,735
32,202
I'm worried that the rose gold with rose gray leather will be too feminine for me. How about I buy the rose gold, and you buy that one, and we swap bands? :D

Hopefully Apple also sells bands separately. I might pair the Rose Gold with the blue stainless steel modern buckle. I'd hate to have to buy two watches to get the combination I like.

I would assume you'll pick a watch and then the band you want to go with it. Though I'm sure some combinations won't be available like the colored rubber bands with a gold watch. The only question I have is will they sell watch bands on their own (in case people want more than one) or can you only get a band with a watch. I have to believe they will as some people will want more than one band depending on the occasion.
 

KPOM

macrumors P6
Oct 23, 2010
18,311
8,326
I would assume you'll pick a watch and then the band you want to go with it. Though I'm sure some combinations won't be available like the colored rubber bands with a gold watch. The only question I have is will they sell watch bands on their own (in case people want more than one) or can you only get a band with a watch. I have to believe they will as some people will want more than one band depending on the occasion.

They seem to have 34 preset combinations. For example, the Edition has 6 (38mm yellow gold with red leather band, 38mm rose gold with sport band, 42mm rose gold with sport band, 38mm rose gold with rose gray leather band, 42mm yellow gold with black sport band, 42mm yellow gold with blue classic buckle).
 

DoctorKrabs

macrumors 6502a
Jul 12, 2013
689
882

These renderings make it look way better than it actually would, especially with the screen. It looks like it has a Retina display in the rendering, but in real life, the density is mediocre.

Apple Watch has a Retina display, and the bezel is usually invisible. Text and icons look like they're coming from the surface of the watch face, like it's all one object.
 

Rogifan

macrumors Penryn
Nov 14, 2011
24,735
32,202
These renderings make it look way better than it actually would, especially with the screen. It looks like it has a Retina display in the rendering, but in real life, the density is mediocre.

Apple Watch has a Retina display, and the bezel is usually invisible. Text and icons look like they're coming from the surface of the watch face, like it's all one object.

All the Almost 360 renders make it look much nicer than it is in real life. I find it comical when people say if you ignore all the bad bits it actually looks good. I'm sorry but I can't ignore the flat tire because every time I look at the display it's there. And it looks wrong like something is missing whereas a rounded rec with uniform bezels on each side looks completely normal as everyone is used to that from their PCs, phones and tablets. For me it's impossibe to ignore the black bar.

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Those who have seen Watch in real life say the screen is fantastic. And because the UI is mostly black the bezels don't stand out as much.
 
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SHNXX

macrumors 68000
Oct 2, 2013
1,901
663
What Moto 360 Lovers Are Smoking?

I have never understood the fascination with the bezel thickness.

This is a watch not a TV not a tablet not a phone

In the world of watches prominent bezels are often desirable and are featured intentionally.
Only an idiotic designer would accept that flat tire look in order to achieve thin basil on a watch
 

Rogifan

macrumors Penryn
Nov 14, 2011
24,735
32,202
I have never understood the fascination with the bezel thickness.

This is a watch not a TV not a tablet not a phone

In the world of watches prominent bezels are often desirable and are featured intentionally.
Only an idiotic designer would accept that flat tire look in order to achieve thin basil on a watch

People complain that Apple is form over function but that's exactly what the Almost 360 is. Moto didn't ask what the job to be done was and then design the best shape/form around that. From the outset they said it has to be round and everything was designed around that constraint.

Seems to me Apple started with functionality and determined the rounded rec was the best shape to display information (there is a reason PCs, phones and tablets aren't round). Sure round is great for an analog watch face. But is it great for much else? Below are a couple Watch apps shown off at the event. I suppose they could be re-worked to fit within a round display but the display would have to be quite large to fit any usable information.

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diamond.g

macrumors G4
Mar 20, 2007
11,445
2,674
OBX
People complain that Apple is form over function but that's exactly what the Almost 360 is. Moto didn't ask what the job to be done was and then design the best shape/form around that. From the outset they said it has to be round and everything was designed around that constraint.

Seems to me Apple started with functionality and determined the rounded rec was the best shape to display information (there is a reason PCs, phones and tablets aren't round). Sure round is great for an analog watch face. But is it great for much else? Below are a couple Watch apps shown off at the event. I suppose they could be re-worked to fit within a round display but the display would have to be quite large to fit any usable information.

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Apple-Watch.jpg
I hope the text on the watch isn't really that small. The text should be glanceable at a foot or more away.
 

diamond.g

macrumors G4
Mar 20, 2007
11,445
2,674
OBX
You like to read your watch from a foot away?
Why?

With my elbow on my desk I should be able to twist my arm and glance at my watch and see what is there. In my opinion.

From what I have seen the text in Android Wear is bigger than what Apple is showing for Apple Watch, so far.
 

Julien

macrumors G4
Jun 30, 2007
11,859
5,445
Atlanta
You like to read your watch from a foot away?
Why?

If standing and you look at your watch/wrist it IS more than a 12" away. You have to raise you wrist up pretty high (or bend your head down) to get under 12" away.

It's highly likely you can scale font size the way you can on your iPhone.
 

H3boy

macrumors regular
Jul 8, 2013
152
186
Charlie West
All bias aside, The :apple: watch looks the best. Wonder if it'll have a Mondaine watch face much like the iOS 6 iPad clock app.

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I'm just not a fan of the way the band connects to the watch.

Compare this:
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To:
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The Almost 360 bands don't feel like an integral part of the watch, they feel like something that was just tacked on at the end. Like a fat aluminum tire was just laid on top of a leather band. I don't get that feeling with Watch. The Watch feels like it was designed as one harmonious product not the watch and then the bands as an afterthought.

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I agree with you, I think the subtle outward flare of the :apple: watch band where it connects to the watch is what makes it seem more harmonious. The straight appearance of the moto band makes it look cheap and like you said "an afterthought".
 
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