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anonymouslurker

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I agree with you, I think the subtle outward flare of the :apple: watch band where it connects to the watch is what makes it seem more harmonious. The straight appearance of the moto band makes it look cheap and like you said "an afterthought".

That same look is reminiscent of watches by Xetum, which are decent entry-level Swiss watches. (Made in the USA, but Swiss movements).

Oh, and I have a Mondaine face for my 360, in addition to faces that match my Navitimer 01 and Sinn 756 ;)
 

H3boy

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Jul 8, 2013
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That same look is reminiscent of watches by Xetum, which are decent entry-level Swiss watches. (Made in the USA, but Swiss movements).

Oh, and I have a Mondaine face for my 360, in addition to faces that match my Navitimer 01 and Sinn 756 ;)

I think if I was Xetum I'd be talking to an attorney. But I am used to the heavy litigation tactics of apple.

I love the simplicity of the mondaine face and want one but dont exactly want to put that much money down on just a watch. At least with the :apple: watch I can justify it a little bit more in my head.
 
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BvizioN

macrumors 603
Mar 16, 2012
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As compared to what?

To the Apple Watch, which is hard metal with a non-curved display? :p

I don't know about the rest of you but my wrist isn't quite curved on the top and bottom sides.

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I find it comical when people say if you ignore all the bad bits it actually looks good. I'm sorry but I can't ignore the flat tire because every time I look at the display it's there.

I am curious, why is there a flat tire look on that watch? Surely must be some reasons? And I agree that it looks bad.
 

Rogifan

macrumors Penryn
Nov 14, 2011
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I am curious, why is there a flat tire look on that watch? Surely must be some reasons? And I agree that it looks bad.
That's where all the circuitry is. Of course Watch has bezels on all 4 sides but the HIG they released tells developers to use black as the background so the bezel essentially fades away.
 

diamond.g

macrumors G4
Mar 20, 2007
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That's where all the circuitry is. Of course Watch has bezels on all 4 sides but the HIG they released tells developers to use black as the background so the bezel essentially fades away.

It also minimizes power usage.
 

kdarling

macrumors P6
I've owned many watches with blank spaces at the bottom.

Heck, my current favorite is a Martian Notifier. I love that the separate watch part runs for two years on its own battery.

The bottom part has a little scrolling display for Bluetooth notifications. It works for about five days between charges. Plenty to get through a work week.

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Tanegashima

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Jun 23, 2009
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But they can't all be TAG Heuer Sports Elegance (S/el)... Now THAT was an impressive watch band!

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Ugly

These tough...

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You may not like the watch, but the bracelets are the best in the industry, what makes a breitling a breitling.

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2: It would see much much easier for pick pockets to remove the watch with just a magnet to hold it on your wrist. If you watch them, they are dam good at even undoing a clasp, let along pulling a magnetic join apart.

Not really...

Think about it.

You have to take the magnet and let the band go.

You have to give in, they can't take that from you.

For the clasp, you just need to press a button...
 

PinkyMacGodess

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Ugly

These tough... (SIC)

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You may not like the watch, but the bracelets are the best in the industry, what makes a breitling a breitling.

Just the way that the awesome band follows the pattern into the watch case makes the S/el one of the best looking watches ever IMO. Plus I've had one now for over 30 years and it is still ticking, and looks almost new. It's a beautiful watch that is durable and stylish. It all fits together for an amazing look. To say people buy a Breitling watch for the bracelet is like saying people buy a Cadillac for the tires.

Not really...

Think about it.

You have to take the magnet and let the band go.

You have to give in, they can't take that from you.

For the clasp, you just need to press a button...

And I am amazed how often my Nike Fuelband comes unlatched on my wrist. Nothing prevents a watch from becoming someone elses like a clasp lock on a metal watch band. The magnetic bands are probably aimed at women, and 'white collar' soft handed men. Anyone doing any manual labor would toss a magnetic banded watch in their locker and probably never look back.

On a tangent: One thing that just struck me is that with Apple apparently making the :apple:watch so non-waterproof, they are ignoring a whole niche market of divers who could use the :apple:watch for a dive aid/computer... Having bought a few dive 'computers' over the years, there is a lot of cash in that 'niche market'.
 

PinkyMacGodess

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I'm just not a fan of the way the band connects to the watch.

Compare this:
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To:
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The Almost 360 bands don't feel like an integral part of the watch, they feel like something that was just tacked on at the end. Like a fat aluminum tire was just laid on top of a leather band. I don't get that feeling with Watch. The Watch feels like it was designed as one harmonious product not the watch and then the bands as an afterthought.

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Knowing how much a Rolex costs, I'd be hard pressed to hate it, no matter what it looked like.

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All the Almost 360 renders make it look much nicer than it is in real life. I find it comical when people say if you ignore all the bad bits it actually looks good. I'm sorry but I can't ignore the flat tire because every time I look at the display it's there. And it looks wrong like something is missing whereas a rounded rec with uniform bezels on each side looks completely normal as everyone is used to that from their PCs, phones and tablets. For me it's impossibe to ignore the black bar.

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Those who have seen Watch in real life say the screen is fantastic. And because the UI is mostly black the bezels don't stand out as much.

I haven't been able to see the 360 in real life. Someone actually stole the display non-functioning watch at the local Worst Try. Yeah, funny...

The 'flat tire' would get to be strange, but you'd get used to it. They should have made it bigger, rather than smaller. Funny how that works sometimes... Small and it's an annoyance, larger and it's a 'feature'...
 

BigInDallas

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Oct 13, 2014
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Do not really care about the pricing. If it really looks as amazing in person and a beautiful fit with me, that is the one I am getting. Perfect for my tastes and style along with my iP6+.

The Guardian nailed it. Sorry kids. If you want to look like stupid with MS loser OS and walk around as if you are being under house arrest, get and wear MS fit bands.

Samsung, Google, Pebble etc already got or battling for the tacky, cheap Casio and Timex demographics.

Apple has it's loyalists / modern fashionistas / hip / Rolex, Omega, Tag, Patek Geeks etc / Swatch Kids etc / maybe even convert some of it's haters / women / Seiko etc Conservative fashionistas would be smart watch market / early adapters including majority or normal or geeks who would wear a watch for the first time or again all by itself ... Lenovo, Huawei, Shamesung jealous copycats are anxiously waiting (or already manufacturing their versions).. ...

Wow... So if someone prefers the MS band they are stupid? Some one has a skewed sense of reality

IMO the Apple watch is ugly as hell. Fashion I think not.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
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The Moto 360 felt like a POS when I held it, and the screen was nothing to brag about.

I chose the Gear 2 Neo, cause the face sits nice and flat my wrist and the display is nice.

Most other smartwatches I've tried on, the face is thicker and sits too bulky on the wrist for my liking.
 

keatth

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Aug 24, 2013
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I actually had the opposite reaction. I thought it was really lame until I saw it in person at Best Buy. It's actually pretty nice and cool, still something I would never wear because well..andriod. That said, Apple watch is 1,000 times better.
 

sebseb

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May 24, 2014
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Plasticky? isn't the Moto made of aluminum??

But yes it is ugly! but the apple watch is too thick!
 

telefono

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Dec 17, 2007
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the Apple Watch will sell more units purely based on the amount of Apple fans out there

Apple Fans are plenty because Apple makes great products. SO, Apple will sell more Apple Watches because it will be a better product. Better product = more fans (Apple Fans)

I think the Moto 360 looks OK and the Apple Watch looks Spectacular :)
 

Rogifan

macrumors Penryn
Nov 14, 2011
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How heavy is the Almost 360? Does it have some heft or is it light like an iPhone?
 

Julien

macrumors G4
Jun 30, 2007
11,859
5,445
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How heavy is the Almost 360? Does it have some heft or is it light like an iPhone?

I'm guessing you are asking for a relative/subjective comparison. The Moto 360 is 49g and the iPhone 6 is 129g. How to compare the 2 I'm not sure.
 

Rogifan

macrumors Penryn
Nov 14, 2011
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Here's another example of why I think a circular display is form over function. Notice the text getting cut off at the bottom. And to shrink it to fit would mean really small text (I can't imagine trying to read it in full sunlight).

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I'm guessing you are asking for a relative/subjective comparison. The Moto 360 is 49g and the iPhone 6 is 129g. How to compare the 2 I'm not sure.

I guess what I meant was does it feel really light (like the iPhone 5 did in comparison to the iPhone 4) or does it have some heft to it? is it more like the aluminum Watch in terms of weight?
 

JayLenochiniMac

macrumors G5
Nov 7, 2007
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I guess what I meant was does it feel really light (like the iPhone 5 did in comparison to the iPhone 4) or does it have some heft to it? is it more like the aluminum Watch in terms of weight?

I know what you mean. I was gifted a lightweight watch and it felt cheap to me. However, the 18k gold models are said to be substantially heavier than the other two :apple:Watch lines so that's the heft purchasers of those watches are looking for.
 

KPOM

macrumors P6
Oct 23, 2010
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I know what you mean. I was gifted a lightweight watch and it felt cheap to me. However, the 18k gold models are said to be substantially heavier than the other two :apple:Watch lines so that's the heft purchasers of those watches are looking for.

Gold itself is heavier than aluminum or stainless steel.
 

Julien

macrumors G4
Jun 30, 2007
11,859
5,445
Atlanta
�� Gold is denser than steel or aluminum.

Specific gravity yes, but a pound of gold weighs the same as a pound of aluminum.;)

In the fitness industry this has always been a pet peeve of mine, the saying "muscle weighs more than fat".

However it's a fact that a pound of feathers weighs more than a pound of gold. :cool:

EDIT: Just to add it was a trick question. A pound of gold weighs 373 grams and a pound of feathers weighs 454 grams. Gold uses the Troy weight system.
 
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KPOM

macrumors P6
Oct 23, 2010
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8,326
Specific gravity yes, but a pound of gold weighs the same as a pound of aluminum.;)


EDIT: Just to add it was a trick question. A pound of gold weighs 373 grams and a pound of feathers weighs 454 grams. Gold uses the Troy weight system.

So does that make your question a trojan horse? :D
 

Tanegashima

macrumors 6502
Jun 23, 2009
473
0
Portugal
And I am amazed how often my Nike Fuelband comes unlatched on my wrist. Nothing prevents a watch from becoming someone elses like a clasp lock on a metal watch band. The magnetic bands are probably aimed at women, and 'white collar' soft handed men. Anyone doing any manual labor would toss a magnetic banded watch in their locker and probably never look back.

On a tangent: One thing that just struck me is that with Apple apparently making the :apple:watch so non-waterproof, they are ignoring a whole niche market of divers who could use the :apple:watch for a dive aid/computer... Having bought a few dive 'computers' over the years, there is a lot of cash in that 'niche market'.

How can you detach an apple Milanese? Please explain?

Because the wearer just needs to push the watch towards himself.

It's impossible to take by force, magnetic or not.

It's basic.



The Apple watch is water resistant and it's completely fine for me, I already wear a plastic watch when I'm going to the pool. Thanks.
 

diamond.g

macrumors G4
Mar 20, 2007
11,445
2,674
OBX
Here's another example of why I think a circular display is form over function. Notice the text getting cut off at the bottom. And to shrink it to fit would mean really small text (I can't imagine trying to read it in full sunlight).

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What I have been reading in regards to Android and round displays is that you are supposed to tell the app that if it sees that it is on a round display to put all the text in an bounding box (draw a box in the circle) so that the text won't get cut off. Not sure why Google's own weather card doesn't follow that, but maybe the initial notification cards are exempt from that rule and it is only applied to longer look cards.
 
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