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If anyone can find any credible rumours other than these I'd be surprised:

Sep 2013: E5-1680 v2 shows up in Geekbench results (new Mac Pro already known)
Aug 2013: E5-2692 v2 shows up in Geekbench results (new Mac Pro already known)

Dec 2012: Mac Pro to be first American only Mac
Late 2007/first week 2008: Apple buy up all the early Xeon 5400s ( I think it was December) pushing other suppliers back.
Jun 2006: New Power Mac replacement coming based on Intel Xeon 5100s

That's it that I can see. I don't count the "Intel have a new CPU so Apple will have a new Mac Pro" or "product stops being sold".

Sometimes we knew an hour or so before, but the rest has all been speculation based on Intel releases or made up.

So to me there have been 3 real rumours and two were shortly before and only one more than 3 months out.
 
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There have been several mentions of a Mac Pro by people connected to Apple, by employment or otherwise. I'm surprised no one here has found them yet. I don't want to call out individuals who might have said too much though. But they're out there on the internet.

I just think it's funny that a forum so obsessed with Mac Pro rumors have missed mentions. :) But that's probably because it's been in podcasts, which aren't Google-able....
 
Up until a few months ago, what was the point of doing an update to the Mac Pro? Sure, the price should be coming down, and I wish it would. This isn't like the 90s and early 2000s anymore. New processors are not that much better than their old ones (other than integrated graphics and battery life).

I think now that we have TB3 and USB-C, they will be updating the Mac Pro soon.

Faster, higher core count CPUs.
Modern graphics cards.
Modern, faster, higher capacity memory.
Faster, higher capacity SSD.
 
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Up until a few months ago, what was the point of doing an update to the Mac Pro? Sure, the price should be coming down, and I wish it would. This isn't like the 90s and early 2000s anymore. New processors are not that much better than their old ones (other than integrated graphics and battery life).

I think now that we have TB3 and USB-C, they will be updating the Mac Pro soon.

Thunderbolt 3 and USB-C have been available since 2015.

USB-C was on the 2015 Macbook, and Apple even co-designed Thunderbolt with Intel; why Apple's products didn't have it earlier is perplexing :(
 
Thunderbolt 3 and USB-C have been available since 2015.

USB-C was on the 2015 Macbook, and Apple even co-designed Thunderbolt with Intel; why Apple's products didn't have it earlier is perplexing :(

I thought TB3 needed Skylake to work? There are no Skylake Xeons out.
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Faster, higher core count CPUs.
Modern graphics cards.
Modern, faster, higher capacity memory.
Faster, higher capacity SSD.

Only two Xeons since the 2013 Mac Pro release. Not really OMG 2,000% performance boost!
 
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I thought TB3 needed Skylake to work? There are no Skylake Xeons out.

True, but I was more lamenting Apple's slowness to incorporate TB3 rather than with the Mac Pro specifically.

Skylake Xeons are expected in the 1st half of this year, I guess that has allowed other technologies to catch up in the mean time, but it's still left us with a massive gap in performance. No reason why they couldn't have released a second TB2-equipped Mac Pro with better GPUs, better SSD, more power with the PSU, looked at cooling again etc.
 
True, but I was more lamenting Apple's slowness to incorporate TB3 rather than with the Mac Pro specifically.

Skylake Xeons are expected in the 1st half of this year, I guess that has allowed other technologies to catch up in the mean time, but it's still left us with a massive gap in performance. No reason why they couldn't have released a second TB2-equipped Mac Pro with better GPUs, better SSD, more power with the PSU, looked at cooling again etc.

I think TB1 and TB2 were a bust. The fact that TB3 uses USB-C gives it a MAJOR advantage over the other two.

I wish the price would come down at least! I would be surprised if we never get a TB3 equipped Mac Pro.

What massive gap in performance? As far as I can tell, the 2013 Mac Pro with the D700s still beats anything in terms of FCPX performance.
 
I thought TB3 needed Skylake to work? There are no Skylake Xeons out.
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Only two Xeons since the 2013 Mac Pro release. Not really OMG 2,000% performance boost!

No, TB3 does not require Skylake.
 
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My new custom built PC has TB3 and it's not Skylake. It's the i7-6850k CPU on an X99 MB.

On the latest MacBreak Weekly, Rene Richards said the he has heard rumors of a thick and heavy version of the Macbook Pro. This super-pro laptop would be engineered for performance, not battery life or portability. It could provide an option for those of us who want a 3rd-party display instead of an iMac.
 
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On the latest MacBreak Weekly, Rene Richards said the he has heard rumors of a thick and heavy version of the Macbook Pro. This super-pro laptop would be engineered for performance, not battery life or portability. It could provide an option for those of us who want a 3rd-party display instead of an iMac.

https://ark.intel.com/#@Processors

Look under Intel High End Processors.

https://ark.intel.com/products/family/79318/Intel-High-End-Desktop-Processors#@Desktop

As far as chipset and MB :

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-X99-GAMING/specifications/

1-TB header.

I have the ASUS TB3 add-in card that provides a TB 3 port.
 
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There is a difference between built in support at the processor level, and an add-on card.

I can add USB 3 to Windows XP with this: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...66038&cm_re=usb_3_card-_-15-166-038-_-Product

While that's true the add-in card I have is made by ASUS specifically for the x99 chipset.It wont work on any other MB. You cant just stick the card in and have TB3. The MB/chipset needs to support it.

http://www.asus.com/us/Motherboard-Accessory/ThunderboltEX-3/specifications/
 
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I don't see anywhere on Intel's site that 6th generation or earlier processors are mentioned when they discuss Thunderbold 3.
The only mention that I saw was a marketing page that said:

Thunderbolt™ 3 technology offers a fast and simple level of connection and consistency for work or home, bringing the speed and versatility of Thunderbolt™ to USB-C. Increase productivity by linking multiple devices through a single, compact port or add a little more power to your gaming with lightning-fast transfers. Paired with 7th Generation Intel® Core™ processors or 7th Generation Intel® Core™ vPro™ processors, Thunderbolt™ 3 technology optimizes PC performance.
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/io/thunderbolt/thunderbolt-technology-general.html
So, of course they're pitching the latest processors regardless of any actual technical connection. T-Bolt is a PCIe extension technology, this marketing blurb doesn't imply that older CPUs can't use T-Bolt 3.

There is a difference between built in support at the processor level, and an add-on card.
At some recent point USB-3 support was added to the PCH (not the processor). Before that, USB-3 required a separate chip using a PCIe lane, or an add-in card. Now, PCIe comes "for free". There's no real difference in performance or functionality - Apple just makes slightly more profit per system when USB3 is in the PCH.

Note that the Ivy Bridge PCH in the MP6,1 does not support USB-3. Apple peels one PCIe lane off the PCH for a PCIe USB 3 controller.

nmp-system-block-diagram.jpg

Note that there seems to be an error in this diagram. It shows the USB 3.0 controller coming off one unused lane of the PLX switch. Other sites that mapped the PCIe topology show the USB 3.0 controller coming off the PCH. In this diagram, the PCH is the blob on the bottom middle-left. It shows one unused PCIe lane. (The point is that processor/PCH support for USB3 isn't necessary - it just removes the need for one chip.)
 
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